From Fox News, Gingrich getting desperate. This story from yesterday came out before the news about Bella:
Winter Park, Fla — Newt Gingrich has long argued that conservatives should rally around him if they didn’t want a Massachusetts moderate to win the nomination, but today when a man in the crowd chimed in with a comment about Rick Santorum, Gingrich gave the audience a good chuckle.
“I have great respect for my good friend Rick Santorum and he’s a terrific person,” Gingrich said in his closing remarks to a crowd of over 500 people gathered at the Liberty Counsel Forum at Aloma Baptist Church.
“We’ve known each other for, I guess 20 years now. But the fact is, he’s not going to win in Florida. There’s only one possibility for a conservative victory in Florida – in every poll. We’re tied in the last poll that came out last night – 35 for Romney, 35 for me and 11 for Santorum. And so my point is, if you talk to – cause all of you have friends that like Rick, that’s just a fact. He’s a very attractive, desirable person, with a great personal family story.” A man in the crowd yelled, “Next time around.” “Yeah – next time around is a good battle cry,” the candidate said to laughter. “He’s young enough, he can show back up. But please just try to convince your friends. The only effective practical conservative vote on Tuesday is for Newt Gingrich because that’s just a fact.”
Of course, the poll he cited is a bit of an outlier that was done before he has fallen behind Romney by double digits. It’s worth nothing, he came into the weak leading by 8 or 9 points and then to put it simply, he bungled it badly in two debates. So badly in fact that he’s left to beg Santorum supporters to bail him out by switching to him. The latest polls reveal that Rick Santorum won’t win the Florida primary. Neither will Newt.
Call it campaign creative destruction, but I don’t think the Gingrich campaign is too big to fail, and fail is exactly what it’s doing. We’ve seen another Newt meltdown, just like what happened in Iowa when he had to struggle through weeks of no debates. This week, he turned in two horrid debate performances and won’t get another shot at a debate until February 22nd. Newt is self-destructing all over the place and even if many Santorum supporters switched, it wouldn’t save Gingrich’s campaign in Florida, and it wouldn’t save Newt from himself.
The whole point about Newt being young enough to run again came from a voter who must think running for President is a little like applying for a promotion at work. In reality, it’s a physically, financially, and emotionally exhausting process that few people try to repeat. By the standard of being young enough to run again, so is Newt. Newt’s only 69 and McCain ran when he was 73 and Ron Paul is 76.I also heard from a voter in South Carolina when doing calls for the Santorum campaign. It’s not a logical sentiment, but a dodge for voting for Newt because he can win (which is in itself, the most illogical political meme I’ve seen.)
Newt continued to put his foot in it on ABC this morning:
Following an onslaught of attacks in last week’s debates and on the Florida airwaves, Newt Gingrich amped up his criticism of frontrunner Mitt Romney this morning, aiming his arrows directly at Romney’s character and calling him “fundamentally dishonest.”
You want make this election about character? Really? Not a wise strategy as Stacy McCain reports that, “Attention young conservatives: Your grandma loves Mitt Romney…”
He quotes Romney’s speech where the Governor talks about his lifetime love for Ann Romney:
“There was a time back in high school that a girl I knew in elementary school became much more interesting. You see, Ann and I went to the same elementary school. She was in second grade, I was in fourth. I didn’t notice her then. But when she was just about 16, I noticed in a big way. We were at a party together at a friend’s house. She had come with someone else. I went to her date and I said, ‘Look, I live closer to Ann than you do. Can I give her a ride home for you?’ He said, ‘Sure.’ We’ve been going steady ever since. My sweetheart, Ann Romney.”
McCain goes on to offer his commentary:
After Mitt said that, I walked over to talk to another reporter, whose comment was: “Zing! He’s klling him!”
You see? Mitt didn’t even have to name Newt in order to emphasize the contrast: Mitt’s still with his high-school sweetheart, with whom he’s been “going steady” since 1965, while Newt is on Wife No. 3, with whom he had an affair while still married to Wife No. 2.
Maybe if you’re under 40, that kind of thing doesn’t matter much — Who are we to judge? — but to your mother or grandmother, raised on old-fashioned “family values” conservatism, it matters a lot.
In Governor Romney’s defense, I don’t think his introduction of his wife was a cynical ploy to contrast himself with Newt as the reporter (and perhaps McCain) think. Journalists tend to be cynical people who think everything a politician says is a matter of political calculation, and I don’t. In this case, I think the Governor was sincere. But the fact does contrast with Newt Gingrich’s character.
In some ways, this current push for Gingrich as the, “One Conservative to Rule Them All” is reminiscent of Giuliani supporters from 2008. Many people who were pro-life thought Rudy was okay because he’d promised to appoint strict constructionist judges and they thought that should be acceptable to conservatives. Their problem? They assumed they because they thought it should be acceptable to social conservatives, that it would be. It wasn’t. When you begin to assume that others will accept what you think they should accept, you make a bad political error. Gingrich supporters have assumed that all conservatives would accept the idea that Gingrich’s personal character was irrelevant because they thought it should be irrelevant.
The politics of wishful thinking didn’t Giuliani far and it won’t get Gingrich to the White House. At this rate, Santorum will be in the race longer than Gingrich.
January 29th, 2012 at 5:33 pm
“The only effective practical conservative vote on Tuesday is for Newt Gingrich because that’s just a fact.”
It’s been my experience that when someone ends their argument with “it’s a fact” odd are it probably isn’t.
January 29th, 2012 at 5:35 pm
Gingrich is done after Florida and people here in Florida are seeing him now as unelectable with his baggage. Palin is out of control also. I see why I didn’t care much for her in 08. She only rallies some of the base and probably turns off quite a few independants with some of her talk.
January 29th, 2012 at 5:41 pm
It’s a false idea put out there by Gingrich that if Santorum dropped out Gingrich would win the race. It’s just not even close to true. Gingrich is basing that on the idea that he’d get ALL of Santorum’s votes, which polls show wouldn’t happen. He’d gain about 2-3% on Romney in Florida, which would still be a big loss.
Even if all of Santorum’s supporters in Florida who put Gingrich down as their 2nd choice left Santorum and joined Gingrich AND none of the people who put Romney as their 2nd choice left Santorum left Gingrich would still be losing in Florida.
What we need to ask ourselves is what Gingrich is doing in this race. As I see it he’s either 1) deluded into believing he can win 2) trying to position himself as the “true conservative” so he can get some TV gig or sell books 3) Trying to destroy Romney so Obama will win and he can run against a non-incumbent in 4 years, or 4) he’s just angry, and has no real plan.
I’m leaning to 1 or 3, but I’d be interested in what other people think.
January 29th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Adam, I’d be interested in your take on the claim that Gingrich would be winning if Santorum wasn’t splitting the conservative vote.
January 29th, 2012 at 5:50 pm
#2
You nailed it! Most Indies are turned off by most of what Palin has to say, including this independent, she is totally irrelevant. When she endorsed Gingrich she lost me forever.
January 29th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
#3:
I’d say nonsense. I’m proof that not every Santorum supporter would vote for Gingrich were Santorum to drop out. A group of people don’t think alike.
It’s a common political fallacy. If an election turns out like this:
1) Moderate Candidate-49%
2) Slightly More Conservative Candidate-36%
3) True Conservative-15%
The conclusion is that True Conservative is causing the candidate to lose the race. In reality you can’t just add the 15% to the second place finisher. People think differently. For example, some folks who I knew supporting Huckabee are involved in all four campaigns.
If Santorum were to leave the race, Gingrich would probably pick up the majority of the support, but he wouldn’t get all of it. Some who were looking for a true conservative would back Ron Paul who on fiscal issues is further right than any other candidates. Some would back Mitt Romney. A few wouldn’t vote at all.
The bigger problem with Gingrich other than the general rule of election analysis is that Newt is Newt and that his constant habit of self-destructing would ultimately doom his campaign. So even if he could manage to get conservatives behind him, he’s not sustainable through a long campaign. He’d eventually fail and with conservatives having no back up.
January 29th, 2012 at 5:51 pm
I think Newt should step aside and let us see what Santorum would do against Romney. Newt is not conservative no matter what he trys to say. The candidates right now are all tainted in conservatism and all of them should just be quiet about whose more conservative and just talk about the future.
January 29th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
3. Here’s my take on this: It used to be that politicians currently in office ran for higher office. . .Senators, Governors, etc. They were already in Congress or running their states, so if things didn’t work out too well for them, they ended their campaign and went back to work. In recent years, things have changed. Look at who dropped out this year (current Gov. Perry, current Rep. Bachmann) and who’s still in (former Gov Romney, former Rep. Gingrich, former Sen. Santorum). Four years ago saw former Gov. Huckabee stay in the longest while former Sen. Thompson and former Mayor Giuliani and former Gov. Romney stuck around for a while too. In the age of lucrative cable TV contracts and book deals, why should they drop out? Other people are footing the bill for them to criss-cross the country, and they get another chance to feel relevant to the political discussion again. There’s really no reason to drop out of a long, drawn out race; on the contrary it’s in their best interest to keep going to the end. No one cares much for country and party anymore, it’s all about themselves. It’s the perfect environment for a Gingrich or a Palin to stick around long after most of us are tired of them.
January 29th, 2012 at 5:54 pm
Adam, the voter that yelled “next time around” was a Newt plant that was shouting it about Santorum. Newt would like that idea to take root in Santorum’s supporters. Fortunately, about the same number of Santorum supporters like Mitt as #2 as like Newt. Newt’s implosions are certainly a sight to behold
January 29th, 2012 at 6:02 pm
aspire,
Gingrich is 68. He has to know that he has no chance at all of being the nominee in 4 years, at the age of 72, against an infinitely better field. It may be that he wants Romney to lose to Obama but not because he’s hoping to mount a ’16 run himself. 1, 2, and 4 all seem credible, though I’d tend towards 4.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:07 pm
alaska jake,
That trend is also problematic for another reason: current office-holders have incentives to stay within certain boundaries. If you might eventually seek another office, or if you just want to stay in office you’re currently in, you’re not going to seek to bring the party tumbling down around you. Because if you don’t win the nomination, and the Presidency, after that sort of strategy, your political career is over. That’s another reason why Obama and Hillary’s fight was so banal, and turned almost entirely on subtle cultural differences. Because neither had an incentive to turn the other into mincemeat. When you have a crowd full of folks who will never be elected to anything again- and we did this time- things are going to get much uglier.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
Yes, but the recent WSJ poll shows exactly what you’re decrying as impossible. Nationwide, amongst the R electorate, in a 2-man race, Gingrich leads Willard 52-39.
Sure, that means some of Paul and Santorum’s supporters go over to Willard, but the bulk of them clearly go over to Gingrich.
And by the way, the Giuliani comparisons are apt. Willard is pro taxpayer funded abortions, just like Giuliani. It’s part of what makes him a lying progressive crapweasel, that the pro-lifers recognize this. That’s much of the reason those Paul and Santorum voters would swing over to Gingrich, by the way. Pro-life voters have this thing sniffed out, even if the willardbots are delusional about it. Liars lie, and Willard is a proven and historical liar, as a great many in that 52% well understand.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:21 pm
Romney has been telling that story pretty much word for word since the 2008 election… It had nothing to do with Newt… although, I’m sure Newt assumes Mitt has lived his whole life to make him look bad.
And some other things that might make women like Romney… He got a perfect score on his SAT… he went off to Standford… then when he was 19 he served his mission to France… when he came home… he could have gone back to Stanford, a top top school.
Instead, Ann was going to BYU, a far less prestigious school, especially back then… Mitt transferred to BYU to be close to Ann.
Mitt gave up Stanford to be with Ann. He didn’t ask her to give up her education for him. Her education was more important than he having a Stanford degree.
When he made that decision his acceptance to Harvard Business School and Harvard Law was far in the future… he had no reason to expect a degree from BYU would get him very far.
And people say this man has no core.
His core is Ann.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:22 pm
/sigh Harold, having you and your ilk lie about Romney’s position on abortion does no good for the right to life movement, contrary to what you and your Iowa brother from another mother Steve Deace believe. I know asking nicely isn’t going to get y’all to stop, but it really does take what you say and toss it in the trash.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
#12:
It depends on how recent this “recent poll” is. Some relatively recent polls have shown Gingrich up in a 4-man race nationally. It’s no surprise then that he’s up more with Santorum and Paul out. Here, your expectation is that Santorum getting out would deliver Gingrich from the jaws of double digit defeat.
Of course, it will never be a 2-man race. Ron Paul will stay in this until the convention and there’s no telling him that three’s a crowd, so any poll that’s going to be realistic has to measure a 3-man race.
And actually you’re not saying my comparison to Giuliani is apt, you’re completely ignoring it and proposing one of your own. Your statement is inaccurate. While Romneycare did lead to $50 abortions in Massachusetts, Romney has no great national abortion funding agenda.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
12
You are so dense, it’s stunning. The poll you are citing was a week ago, when Gingrich had come off soaring after a big win in South Carolina.
The race is entirely different than it was a week ago.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
Most people are repulsed by a foaming-at-the-mouth rabid dog, and that is a pretty good description of Newt Gingrich right now. He is making the same mistakes he was making in Iowa where he imploded.
Certainly Newt’s brand of fiery over-the-top rhetoric has its lovers and aficionados, but most people prefer a little self-discipline in their leaders, and calling your opposition every name in the book (and some out of the book) and blaming all your problems on others is generally not seen as an indicator of self-control.
Prick this guy very hard and he explodes, losing all sense of self-control in a spectacular meltdown. He started to recover it in South Carolina resulting in a win, but he’s losing it all over again in Florida.
Even if Newt manages to win the nomination, you can be sure that the Democrats are taking careful notes.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:24 pm
don’t feed the troll, guys. harold will never be satisfied.
so, all of this is from the grinch is one poll showing him winning in a 2-man race. in that 2 man race mitt only gets 39%…hmmm…that is LOWER than he’s getting in FL. methinks that poll was taken right around the SC Grinch surge, like the other national and FL polls showing the Grinch running away with it. they are obsolete, and will be completely gone after a huge FL win.
why not talk about the HUGE amount of polling (usatoday, rasmussen, etc.) that show newt, if he somehow miraculously won the nomination, would get DESTROYED vs Obama. He loses by > 12% nationally and > 14% in swing states. it would be a LANDSLIDE the size of the Grinch’s pannus.
newt is an egomaniac that has no chance of winning in the general and the more he talks, the more he people realize what an absolute narcissist he is.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:25 pm
12.
You seem to be the only person who see that in the polling… because if that was true… Mitt would not be getting the support he is.
Frankly I can’t believe anyone is supporting Newt after it is more than clear he has a screw loose.
And you can stop any ad for Newt’s slide… blame the Moon lunacy and the way he treated Callista in that question.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:27 pm
#12:
From Twitter:
Interesting stat from NBC/Marist poll: Romney would lead Newt in Florida by 49-33 if Santorum were not in the race. In other words, if Santorum drops out, Romney goes from a 15-point lead to a 16-point lead.
Harold, I know what you’ll say, “NBC and Marist are crapweasels.” So I said it for you.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
blame any ad… my fingers seem to type what they want sometimes.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:40 pm
#19 Petunia,
You noticed that too? Yeah, he was trying to be all charming, except that no wife wants to be par with all the others. His answer was an epic fail. Most woman would have caught that, but I wonder how many guys thought “oops, dumb move”.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:42 pm
Gingrich suggesting Santorum get out of the race? LOL – Deja vu. Santorum is just biding his time. It’s just a matter of when Newt will completely implode, not “if” he will.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
It’s 52-39, kids. No sense crying about it.
I’m not expecting anything. I just review the data. There it is. You’re welcome.
Now, in the alternate fantasy world of the willardbot fever swamp, data doesn’t matter, I realize. But to those of us who actually review and analyze data, it does.
When the numbers move, we can talk. But you better plan on the WSJ putting out fresh data that supports your position, because right now your statements in this discussion are demonstrably false.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:43 pm
I hope Santorum’s campaign lasts far longer than Gingrich’s.
We have need of Santorum in the future.
We have no need of Grigrich…
January 29th, 2012 at 6:44 pm
And I’d recommend you willardbots keep up the continued collection for Santorum’s campaign. It’s vital for your fevered hopes, I assure you.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:45 pm
Poor Sarah is apoplectic because her 15 minutues of fame will be over if Mitt wins the nomination.
Give em hell Mitt!
January 29th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
Harold, are you a soothsayer or a physic or something? Just curious, because nothing is matching reality today. Just wondered if you could see into the future or into an alternate reality?
January 29th, 2012 at 6:47 pm
Most indies?
This life-long staunch Republican can’t Paris Hilton, Lohan, or Palin…
January 29th, 2012 at 6:48 pm
“There’s only one possibility for a conservative victory in Florida – in every poll. We’re tied in the last poll that came out last night – 35 for Romney, 35 for me and 11 for Santorum. ”
Newt making up polls now? There was no poll last night that had him and Romney tied at 35.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:49 pm
Gingrich is worse than merely being a jerk. When he engages in specifics, they’re irrelevant or from Left Field. Generally he just says Mitt is a liar, or a moderate, or a failure…..all things Mitt demonstrably is anything but. He calls himself a Conservative, despite having advanced all kinds of liberal positions. He’s doing the race and the Party harm. This will not be an honorable defeat.
Romney is honest….Conservative…..competent…..moral.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:50 pm
20 I still believe Newt would gain 1-3% on Romney, but obviously not enough to make any difference. A much better argument could be made that if South Carolina didn’t pick Gingrich over Santorum (what sense did that make?) this would be a close race.
Frankly I think Santorum is still too rough around the edges, and he’s taken positions in the primary in order to help his campaign (in my opinion) that would hurt him in the general election, but he’s the 2nd most serious candidate in this race (again my opinion).
I think his campaign was run poorly (easy to say in hindsight), they should have done more to raise funds (again easy to say), they should have worked with Santorum to make him not come off as whining in the debates, and he should have always been going after Gingrich instead of Romney. Again I know that’s easy to say in hindsight, but everyone was already going after Romney and nothing was going to stop Romney from winning New Hampshire. It was always going to be a 2 man race, and after oopsgate and the accusations against Cain it should have become pretty obvious that the one man standing in the way of Santorum becoming the RomNot was Gingrich. Santorum should have started blasting Gingrich with negative ads in South Carolina before Iowa was over. Frankly he should have spent little time in New Hampshire to begin with. Romney’s 2 weak points were Iowa and South Carolina. Paul was going to take 2nd in New Hampshire so it almost didn’t matter how anyone else did (see Huntsman).
January 29th, 2012 at 6:54 pm
24
WOW, you’re a dumbass.
Are you aware that polls change?
Are you aware that RICK PERRY was once beating Romney 1-on-1?
Is Rick Perry going to be the nominee?
GUARANTEED, Noot is down by double digits 1-on-1 right now if you took the poll TODAY.
Data only works when it’s current. You are ridiculously unsophisticated and unintelligent.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:55 pm
The guys who caught that are the ones that are still happily married
January 29th, 2012 at 6:57 pm
Good article, Adam, have also enjoyed your letters about Santorum to Race42012.
I would love to see a majority of Newt’s supporters cast their vote on Tuesday for Rick. Rick is a true conservative.
What has me puzzled and somewhat disappointed is the endorsements from participants in the last election going to Newt. What are they thinking? If they are true conservatives as most of them claim to be how can they endorse someone who will say and do anything to win?
Newt is not nor has he ever been a true conservative. He is only wearing the new Newt conservative suit to get the Tea Party support.
Well anyway it looks like Newt’s endorsements are coming from a pack of wannabees. Wannabe Veep(Palin),Wannabe POTUS if it does not require too much effort (Thompson), wannabe a best selling author (Cain)….the list grows.
January 29th, 2012 at 6:59 pm
#28…SixMom
Naw, he’s likely just another moonbat with the same human failings as Gingrich.
There is a strong desire among the “True Conservatives” to justify their existence by electing somebody just like them. Heaven help us…
January 29th, 2012 at 7:04 pm
By the way, “fever swamp” means that a site is obsessed with conspiracy theories.
Mind telling us what conspiracy theories we’re peddling?
January 29th, 2012 at 7:07 pm
22 In fairness that was a poor question. The way it was worded was bad. I think a better Newt-like response would have been: “Look I’m not going to say anything bad about anyone elses wife, we all married above ourselves, otherwise we probably wouldn’t be here, but here’s what’s special about my wife…”. Then he could talk about what his wife does, or would do as First Lady.
January 29th, 2012 at 7:08 pm
http://www.verumserum.com/?p=37290
Audio from 2009 of Newt calling for a mandate in Obamacare. Wow!
January 29th, 2012 at 7:17 pm
I tend to write Santorum off at this point, which may be unfair. I’m wondering what is the next state that Santorum could have a serious chance of winning. I ask because if Santorum could win a 2nd state before Gingrich, maybe he could turn it on Gingrich and ask him to drop out. That would be funny.
January 29th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Data only works when it’s current.
Correct. And let me know when you find any data to support your fever swamp delusions that Willard can survive in a 2 man race.
’til then, it’s 52-39.
And fyi, this primary campaign is only starting, assuming Willard’s Florida blowtorch succeeds as appears likely now. But you better hope for Willard’s sake that no miracle strikes in the next 48 hours, because the only candidacy that can possibly die on Tuesday is your boy Willard’s. That’s the shape of this race.
January 29th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
Making note to add Harold to my list of commenters I am done reading. Pointless and repetitive. Doesn’t bring anything to the equation. Maybe if he backed up what he says with anything of substance I might go back to reading it.
January 29th, 2012 at 7:18 pm
39 You beat me to it.
January 29th, 2012 at 7:20 pm
#30
No he’s not making up the poll. Just all of the interviews in the poll were conducted before the last debate:
http://race42012.com/2012/01/28/poll-watch-first-coast-newsdixie-strategies-r-florida-2012-republican-primary-survey
January 29th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
39
WOW!
Game changer!
January 29th, 2012 at 7:21 pm
#40:
PPP said on Friday that Santorum was leading in the first night of polling in Missouri.
January 29th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
That’s the result of Willard falling back from his blowtorch strategy, and actually fantasizing that he could win SC with his progressive credentials on display, absent a blowtorch vanguard.
Those SC internals were a demographic wipeout, as reward for his fantastical delusions that he could win on his own.
He lost SC, and has been subject to go bye bye since then. The blowtorch cranked back up immediately, and looks like it’ll pull out FL. Now watch what happens to those Willard internals with Independents, as he goes nationwide with a blowtorch free-fire zone. It’s all he has, and it’s why he’s gonna lose. There’s no way he can win with OR without the blowtorch. There’s no way he can win period. He’s a loser.
January 29th, 2012 at 7:25 pm
This is the worst ad I’ve ever seen. It beats the other one posted today. I’d like to see this posted – it’s a disaster IMHO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KR7ACqPpbu0
January 29th, 2012 at 7:26 pm
When Palin encouraged voter’s to “rage against the machine” in her latest interview on FOX, it didn’t exactly conjure up a good image or model for their movement.
January 29th, 2012 at 7:27 pm
44 LOL, I guess as a historian Gingrich would naturally like polls about the past.
January 29th, 2012 at 7:34 pm
Love how he cherry picks the one poll that has him within 10 points of Mitt.
January 29th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
#49 Exactly right. Palin obviously has no idea what “rage against the machine” denotes or connotes. Her ignorance is truly staggering.
January 29th, 2012 at 7:38 pm
47 Subject to go bye bye? Romney was never going to win South Carolina, and he never predicted a win there. I said a long time back that even if Romney won Iowa and New Hampshire, there was a good chance Gingrich would come out with a win in South Carolina. Romney’s likely to kill Gingrich in Florida, and there’s little chance Gingrich will be able to come back from a hit like that.
Colorado, Minnesota & Arizona are the only Feb states where Gingrich leads as of the last poll. All those polls were before the last debate, and , of course, before Romney wins Florida. Romney’s going to have Pawlenty pulling for him in Minnesota, and McCain pulling for him in Arizona. Gingrich’s best bet is to try and win Colorado, but even that will be after 3 consecutive losses. If Gingrich loses Colorado, then there’s no hope, no dream of him winning, no path. Even if he wins Colorado it’s a huge stretch.
January 29th, 2012 at 7:39 pm
A little advice for Harold
When your speaking from a position of strength make sure
You are really in one.
January 29th, 2012 at 7:47 pm
MAN THE CANNONS!!!!!!! GAME CHANGER!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSXJLZx5mpY&feature=player_embedded
January 29th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Colorado has become really purple. Newt will get the tea partiers here (that sounds so funny having the tea partiers sell out to a guy totally in line with what they have been fighting against). Romney is getting the rest. It will be close, but Mitt wins it here.
January 29th, 2012 at 7:48 pm
Harold is just trying to use Newt’s success formula: Blow as much hot air as furiously and grandioiusly as possible in an attempt to overwhelm the intellect of the weak minded…
January 29th, 2012 at 7:51 pm
54
LOL! So true!
January 29th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
MassCon…Can we have a two-man Lincoln-Douglas style of debate where Gingrich must debate all of these clips of opposing positions we have of him?
January 29th, 2012 at 7:53 pm
Palin knows exactly what “Rage against the machine” means: It’s an easy way for her to milk more money out of people who are “True Conservatives” in their own mind…
January 29th, 2012 at 8:00 pm
55 see 39
You’re third to the party. Which you could look at as a negative, or a positive.
54 & 57 http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_xGAWwdYcVlI/Sc12h5HbHHI/AAAAAAAADiI/lGH_-BxVR5M/s400/hitnail.jpg
January 29th, 2012 at 8:02 pm
Don’t count your chickens before they peck your eyes out. Those western caucus states and primaries are most all in play, and all due respect to Mr. Pawlenty, but I think he could be more hindrance than help in Minnesota, which I’m certain Gingrich will be working in tandem with his Michigan strategy, where Willard is running surprisingly weak last I checked.
Willard’s dropping $1,000 snowflakes all around this state, on every county commissioner and sheriff in sight, and he has all the most-hated RINOs on board, Schwartz being the flag bearer. Those guys have to stay underground, for the most part. I can even now hear the blowtorch cranking up here, just as we experienced in 2008, when he only barely knocked off McCain, but he can’t be sure it’ll work this time, and our RINO governor can’t step into this, not if he wants to keep his job amidst plummeting approvals. Willard’s gonna have to take Michigan all on his own, just him and his blowtorch. I’m curious on this one.
This general election is all about the Midwest, as I’d hope you all in the fever swamp have known since the 2010 wipeout. And I just can’t seen Willard running strong there, meaning he’s a certain loser either now or in November. But can Gingrich harness the Midwest to effect? That’s the most interesting part of this. You’ll know the shape of the entire election depending on the above 2 states, I suspect. Take PA, MI, MN and Obama is in deep trouble. But an Obama sweep means 4 more years.
January 29th, 2012 at 8:03 pm
61. Callista was third to the party as well
January 29th, 2012 at 8:06 pm
62
You are a clown. We haven’t won PA, MI, or MN since the 1980s and we don’t need to.
January 29th, 2012 at 8:08 pm
#53:
It’s really hard to predict how Caucuses will go. Pawlenty’s endorsement did John McCain little good while Pawlenty was in office, what’s it going to be worth out of office?
Beyond that. Who knows? Caucuses are funny as turnout is very critical. Enough activists turning out can turn a caucus. Hawaii called off its caucuses in 1988 when it became clear that Pat Robertson would win it. Hawaii and Pat Robertson don’t really mix. I think that we may see a big shift to Santorum whose key support from Evangelical leaders including Colorado’s James Dobson may pay off.
January 29th, 2012 at 8:34 pm
#48 Along with Newt embracing grandiosity like it’s a good thing, they need to play a dictionary definition of “grandiose.”
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grandiose (adj) – Bing Dictionary
gran·di·ose [ grándee ?ss ] 1.pretentious and pompous: pretentious, pompous, and imposing
2.magnificent: impressive and magnificent
3.too complex: excessively complicated and unrealistic
Synonyms: pretentious, pompous, flamboyant, ostentatious, extravagant, high-flying
January 29th, 2012 at 8:35 pm
#48 Let’s try this again:
Along with Newt embracing grandiosity like it’s a good thing, they need to play a dictionary definition of “grandiose.”
January 29th, 2012 at 8:57 pm
#35 Faye
Why be concerned about Newt’s endorsements? They are all losers so who would want them?
I have been a Santorum supporter almost from the day he announced and am more than just a little tired of Newt suggesting Rick drop out so he can win.
I am also more than a little tired of Newt and Mitt sucking up all the air time beating up on each other. By now most serious voters should not want to vote for either of them.
January 29th, 2012 at 9:01 pm
63 Well, there’s some overlap there.
January 29th, 2012 at 9:34 pm
Call me granny, then.
January 29th, 2012 at 10:01 pm
#68 There are still many people who are supporting and voting for Newt. Newt is supported by Rush and Fox. If Mitt doesn’t kill him dead now, the ugly Newt/Mitt fight will go on forever and your guy Santorum never will get any attention.
At worst be patient. At best, Santorum and his supporters should jump on the bandwagon the help take out Newt. I believe a lot of Newt supporters would move over to Santorum. If your guy wants to win, he needs to focus on taking down Newt and then duke it out with Mitt after FL.
The idea of Newt as a candidate much less POTUS is anathema to anybody with a brain. Santorum is at least a plausible POTUS.
What do you want Mitt to do? Back off of Newt and give him more room to continue? How does that help you. You should be cheering for Mitt and hope this fight ends NOW.
January 29th, 2012 at 11:00 pm
#68,msbobbie,
Not very concerned about the wannabees who have endorsed Newt. Actually I think it is both funny and pathetic. You see if the wannabees were really concerned about supporting a true conservative they should have endorsed Rick.
However I now am beginning to see that the wannabees are not true conservatives but they just want the headlines and media attention.
I would laugh till I fell on the floor if Santorum came in 2nd in Florida. Would serve them right for not having the courage to endorse Rick in the first place.
January 29th, 2012 at 11:19 pm
Harold showing his ignorance again. just vomiting out the Newtered one’s talking points that are flat out lies.
January 30th, 2012 at 5:38 pm
We haven’t won PA, MI, or MN since the 1980s and we don’t need to.
Yes, you need to, fever swamper.
In the last 5 prexy elections, the score was D’s 3.5 and R’s 1.5
And in the last of those prexy election, the Midwest was a near clean sweep for the D’s. Obama dominated there and elsewhere. Somebody’s gonna have to get into his kitchen, because he’s getting into theirs, in Indiana and Ohio and Iowa and almost Missouri. That means the Midwest is the battleground.
However, in the 2010 Tea Party driven blowout, the Midwest swung over huge, but you willardbots now want to throw that momentum away, and nominate a progressive crapweasel who has ZERO chance of attracting the Reagan Democrats, Tea Partyers and Main Street conservatives who drove that 2010 wipeout.
A short while ago, Obama was down to Independents in PA by 20 points. You willardbots will shortly have him back to even, by the looks of things. What was once a keystone to victory will now be just part of Obama’s 350+ electoral vote total.
Voter enthusiasm was about +14 in 2010. I predict it to be even in 2012, and arguably a negative to the D’s… all thanks to you willardbots and Willard. Good luck at the local, state and federal elections down ballot, which were a wipeout just shortly ago.
Congratulations. If you get your way and Willard is at the top of the ticket, it’s a loss down and through the election.
January 30th, 2012 at 5:42 pm
What am I saying, +350 EV’s?
Obama is poised to take Missouri, Arizona and God knows what else. Heck, he’s probably demanding Axe meet or exceed 2008 votes and EV’s. How about +400?
How about WV, KY, TN, AR, GA and a bunch more? I mean, now that Willard has militarized things with his blowtorch, why not put Obama’s $1B to some good use in those states? He can afford to blowtorch Willard everywhere.
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