I found a new poll online (h/t RightSpeak). It is called the Purple Poll. It focuses exclusively upon likely voters in the 12 swing states which have decided the election in the past 12 years. These states are: Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, NorthCarolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and Wisconsin. They are often called the “battleground” states.
They divided the states up into four groups: the “Wild West” (CO, NV, NM), the “Heartland” (IA, MN, WI), the “Rust Belt” (NH, OH, PA), and the “Southern Swing” (FL, NC, VA).
Here are a couple of results from their September polling. A complete report may be found here:
Obama vs. Romney Obama Romney Not Sure Diff Total 43 46 11 3
CO,NV,NM 42 45 13 3 IA,MN,WI 48 44 8 -4 NH,OH,PA 42 46 11 4 FL,NC,VA 43 48 9 5
Male 41 50 9 9 Female 45 42 13 -3
GOP 8 83 9 75 Ind 39 48 13 9 Dem 78 11 10 -67
Non-College 42 45 13 3 College+ 44 47 9 3
Romney leads almost everywhere. Not counting the Democrats, the President leads only in the “Heartland” and among Females.
Obama vs. Perry Obama Perry Not Sure Diff Total 46 44 10 -2
CO,NV,NM 45 43 12 -2 IA,MN,WI 49 40 10 -9 NH,OH,PA 46 44 9 -2 FL,NC,VA 46 46 8 0
Male 44 47 9 3 Female 48 40 12 -8
GOP 11 79 10 68 Ind 46 41 13 -5 Dem 79 12 8 -67
Non-College 44 42 13 -2 College+ 48 45 7 -3
Perry doesn’t do nearly as well as Romney against the President. He leads nowhere in the country. He does manage a tie with Obama in the “Swinging South”. The only demographic he leads are the Males and among fellow Republicans. Everyone else goes to the current occupant of the White House.
September 30th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
So with the margin of error, CONSERVATIVE Perry and MODERATE Romney are essentially tied with LIBERAL Obama.
Let’s go with the CONSERVATIVE, folks.
We tried the MODERATE McCain last time and how did that work out?
Ask Rush Limbaugh if you’ve forgotten.
September 30th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
We need our grassroots conservative base stirred up fully with MAXIMUM enthusisam for our nominee to take down Obama’s enthusiastic liberal base.
Romney ain’t the one for that.
Let’s go with Perry. FTW!
September 30th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Also Perry doesn’t piss off Hispanics like Romney is apparently determined to do. (See Romney’s current anti-Mexico/Mexican ads.)
September 30th, 2011 at 2:51 pm
Ah Craig
Another one on one debate with yourself. To my point, yesterday. you need your own blog where you can pick different Perry combinations and debate yourself
CraigS
September 30th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Nice spin you worthless liar. Normally I try to treat others with respect but you are clearly a dishonest hack who lies a majority of the time you write stuff here. It has a kind of lost the shock value though so better find others to annoy. On to the poll though…
I think the key tidbit for me is the number of these states that have large populations of retirees. Perry would get punished over SS just like we are already seeing in Florida. Perry is unelectable because he performs badly everywhere outside the south. Only Romney at this point can deliver the White House.
September 30th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
If Perry was a honest conservative, or a conservative at all, I may consider him, but hes NOT.
September 30th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
5 mcon
“Perry is unelectable because he performs badly everywhere outside the south”
And performs poorly there too.
September 30th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
2. Pinocchio/Gardasil: “We need our grassroots conservative base stirred up fully with MAXIMUM enthusisam for our nominee to take down Obama’s enthusiastic liberal base.”
This race was clean and positive until Pinocchiox3 entered. Even as the front runner he was the first negative campaigner this race has seen. He’s simply practicing the same politics he became known for in TX–deceptive and dirty. If anyone is going to cause the base to lack enthusiasm it will be Perry. Fortunately, people are becoming aware of his lies and they’ll soon be ignoring him.
September 30th, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Why I’m liking Perry better than Romney: http://bit.ly/oiLAWi @LeslieSanchez @JazzShaw @EdMorrissey @mattklewis @andyroth
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September 30th, 2011 at 2:57 pm
8
Perry who????
September 30th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
I think we almost all agree that Perry is electoral poison now, unless he turns himself around big time. From the Midwest numbers, Romney will lose MN for sure, probably win IA and WI will be on the knife’s edge. Romney should win all the other states except maybe NM.
September 30th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
This great information. I’ve always wondered about the swing states, and having it all in one place is nice.
I’m not sure what could save Perry at this point. There are just simply not enough Craigs (like RP/JB above) to resurrect him. By the way, Perry had the top spot, and all the advantages yet he sunk himself.
September 30th, 2011 at 2:59 pm
9. Do you think anyone clicks on your sources anymore? They all link directly to Perry’s campaign website. I understand though… it’s the only source of data Pinocchio’s minions can find solace these days.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:02 pm
Listen up, folks..
September 30th, 2011 at 3:03 pm
“Idiot for another Idiot/Some Victim” is just a troll and should be treated as such. When posters start becoming parodies of themselves, well it is time to send them packing.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:04 pm
13.
Incorrect as usual, Rombot.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Interesting story from yesterday of Herman Cain talking about Perry. Cain says that if Perry should somehow win the nomination, Cain would not be able to support him.
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/184493-cain-says-he-would-not-support-perry-as-gop-nominee
September 30th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
15.
Afraid to debate, I see. That figures.
Respond to #14 if you have the intelligence to do so. Btw, which is a trait you have never shown before as a Romney fanboy here at Race off and on.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Perry had the top spot. He didn’t have to go negative on Romney; he didn’t have to lie about Romney. Romney’s been around forever and has weathered all that stuff; it wasn’t going to dent Romney. All Perry needed to do was sell himself to voters who had high hopes, but sparse information.
Perry did just the opposite.
What’s the hideously embarrassing clip that has from viral from John Stewart to Rush Limbaugh? Perry’s attack on Romney that didn’t come off.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Romney is Conservative AND had wider appeal for the General Election,as this very detailed poll shows.
Perry can barely hold his home turf and is toast outside the South.
With Huck’s tacit endorsement of Romney after Saturday’s show, Perry will be a distant memory.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:11 pm
#17 Seriously?? Ouch. Cain does have some clout.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Crickets..
Ok, I’ll let you Rombots enjoy your li’l Romney lovefest and Perry bashfest for a little while.
Play nice, kids. And keep the language clean.
I’ll check back after baseball
September 30th, 2011 at 3:13 pm
#14: What source is that cut and pasted from? No way you wrote that.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:14 pm
There goes Craig to running away….again.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:16 pm
#22 With all respect, I think you’re holding the mirror the wrong way. I haven’t been here to blindly bask in the Romney love or bash Perry mercilessly without reason. But it seems you’ve been doing the exact opposite with non-credible statements.
Truth is, I would take Perry over Obama. We’re all on the same side (generally speaking) and when we quit bickering so hard, the Republican house will stand.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
18
I will respond to #14
So you, because your a Perry lover, would just keep on using tax payer dollars to support people who have no standing in this country.
The fact is Perry is the biggest LIAR to come along since Al Gore, maybe that’s why they were such close friends?????
September 30th, 2011 at 3:17 pm
#14 I think you’re right. Romney’s calculation with his illegal immigrant remarks will hurt him with Hispanics. That’s what it’s come to in America (as I’ve been ranting since the last election). You get a huge number of any ethnic group and they determine elections. Perry managed to play to them in TX even tho any sensible person has to agree that open borders and creating magnets is a horrible policy for America.
But McCain pandered big time to Hispanics and I can’t see that it helped him a bit; they still went for Obama (because he’s a Dem) at least in the Southwest. I cannot speak for Florida Hispanics.
But legal Hispanics down here see attacks on “illegals” as attacks on Hispanics in general. Mitt seems not to get this. For this reason, as I’ve been saying forever, the Hispanic vote may keep Dems in power till the Millennium. It’s damned if you do and damned if you don’t for Republicans.
Should have sealed the border decades ago and instituted a sane immigration policy. Thanks Ronald Reagan.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Intrade Update
Romney 47.4
Perry 21.7
Christie to jump in. 24.4
September 30th, 2011 at 3:20 pm
Unionized Hispanics will truly give Mitt (or any Pub) a run for their money in NV. All the casino, restaurant, hotel workers are unionized. On election day, they are rounded up and bussed to the polls. Somehow they get time off to do this.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:24 pm
Perry hold less than 80% of the GOP against Obama. Pathetic.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:25 pm
It’s going to be hard for any Republican to win the IA/MN/WI trio against Obama. Liberal Democrats seem to do better in those states than moderates. Those three states were among the Dukakis 10 in 1988, even while they moved right during the Clinton/Gore/Kerry years, when Democrats ran more centrist campaigns. I think someone like Romney is more likely to win in the Rust Belt than in the IA/WI/MN trio.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
15. “Afraid to debate, I see. That figures.”
LOL why would anyone waste time “debating” with you? All you do is deflect, change the subject and post more spam. You’re hopeless.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
27
My kids attend a bi-lingual elementary school where they are required to learn Spanish as part of their curriculum. I have no choice in this. My wife and I don’t have a separate vehicle to transport our kids to another non-bilingual school.
Every day, my son brings home all his homework in Spanish, including Math. Fortunately, I speak and read it to help him with it, but if that weren’t the case we would be in a pretty dire situation.
This is what America is coming to. MY American-born children are being forced to learn the language from another country while our neighbors refuse to learn English.
Rick Perry’s stance on this disgusts me in a deep, personal, way.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Kavon,
18 is not be. Please check url.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
me*
September 30th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
Perry only does this well because he hasn’t stood shoulder to shoulder with obama. If the two ever have a chance to debate it will be all over. Obama by a landslide.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:31 pm
RCP Average 9/15 – 9/27 – 26.5 23.0 9.0 8.8 8.0 5.0 2.8 2.0 Perry +3.5
FOX News 9/25 – 9/27 363 RV 19 23 17 11 6 3 3 4 Romney +4
CNN/Opinion Research 9/23 – 9/25 447 A 28 21 7 10 7 4 3 1 Perry +7
Rasmussen Reports 9/19 – 9/19 1000 LV 28 24 7 9 6 8 3 2 Perry +4
USA Today/Gallup 9/15 – 9/18 439 RV 31 24 5 5 13 5 2 1 Perry +7
McClatchy/Marist 9/13 – 9/14 317 RV 30 22 5 6 7 12 2 1 Perry +8
CBS News/NY Times 9/10 – 9/15 747 RV 23 16 5 7 5 7 1 1 Perry +7
Bloomberg 9/9 – 9/12 545 RV 26 22 4 4 8 9 2 1 Perry +4
CNN/Opinion Research 9/9 – 9/11 446 A 30 18 5 5 12 4 2 2 Perry +12
PPP (D) 9/8 – 9/11 500 LV 31 18 8 10 11 9 2 2 Perry +13
ABC News/Wash Post 8/29 – 9/1 RV 29 23 3 4 8 6 2 1 Perry +6
Politico/GWU/Battleground 8/28 – 9/1 LV 36 17 4 5 10 10 5 1 Perry +19
FOX News 8/29 – 8/31 341 RV 26 18 4 3 7 4 3 1 Perry +8
NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 8/27 – 8/31 RV 38 23 5 5 9 8 3 2 Perry +15
CNN/Opinion Research 8/24 – 8/25 467 A 27 14 2 6 6 9 1 1 Perry +13
Quinnipiac 8/16 – 8/27 1185 RV 24 18 5 3 9 10 1 1 Perry +6
PPP (D) 8/18 – 8/21 663 LV 27 17 7 7 6 10 3 2 Perry +10
Gallup 8/17 – 8/21 1040 A 25 14 4 3 11 7 3 1 Perry +11
Rasmussen Reports 8/15 – 8/15 1000 LV 29 18 6 5 9 13 1 1 Perry +11
September 30th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
PERRY’S WINNING
September 30th, 2011 at 3:35 pm
Rick Perry is NOT a CONSERVATIVE:
Rick Perry’s record:
(1) DREAM Act (taxpayer-funded tuition for illegal aliens)
(2) Huawei (selling millions of acres of oil field rights to a Chinese quasi-governmental military contractor who sold spy enabled equipment to the British in order to spy on them)
(3) Gardasil (STD vaccines MANDATED for 12 year old girls)
(4) Budget (increased from $48 billion to $90 billion)
(5) Debt ($27 billion, tripled during his tenure)
(6) Amnesty (supports a pathway to citizenship for illegal aliens)
(7) Bi-national health insurance (wanted to join Mexicans and Americans in joint health insurance accounts)
(8) Texas Business Restoration Fund (Millions in payments to his donors, disproportionately so)
(9) Ran Al Gore’s 1988 campaign against Reagan’s vice president
(10) Endorsed gay marriage at the state level
September 30th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
34
Here we go again…. that’s not me, that’s not me……blah blah
September 30th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
CF,
I don’t know what part of the country you’re from, but Spanish is very native to our nation. I envy your children’s chance for a robust language education most of us didn’t even begin until secondary school.
(but respect your right to disagree, and definitely support school choice as a matter of course)
September 30th, 2011 at 3:37 pm
Why the GOP Should Embrace Mitt Romney
http://theweek.com/bullpen/column/219715/why-the-gop-should-embrace-mitt-romney/1
Great article.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
38
+19 to 3 is winning???? what an idiot!!!
September 30th, 2011 at 3:44 pm
41
It’s a waste of time. I took 3 years of Spanish in High School, my wife took 6 years of Spanish from Middle School through High School. After all that, we still weren’t able to speak to or understand a native speaker.
I learned to speak Spanish fluently after about 2 months being immersed in it on the streets of Lima Peru. There wasn’t another English speaker for 20 miles to bail me out. THAT is how you learn Spanish or any second language for that matter. My son has been in the bilingual program for 3 years and still can’t speak more than few phrases, but the rest of his education is sacrificed.
If people want to be naive and believe they’re helping their kids learn Spanish, that’s their right. But don’t FORCE people in the Public School system to learn it.
By the way, I live in the reddest state in the nation and these dual language school programs come down from the very top.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:45 pm
#34: There you go again.
Maybe if you resigned from the site these kind of problems would disappear.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
Stupid polling firms aren’t doing their jobs. We should have had 5 polls out this past week so we can see Perry’s name off the RCP average lead.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:46 pm
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html
RCP Average lead for Perry down to 3.5%
What a deflation for this overstuffed strutting peacock.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:47 pm
The “Perry Can’t Win” story line is firming up like fresh concrete.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:49 pm
46
It’s better that way. Keep the Perry collapse as slow as possible. It keeps Christie and others out of the race, and leaves the target on Perry longer.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:51 pm
You know, I vented my frustration with Craig for Loser’s sheer idiocy by donating $100.00 to Romney’s campaign. I suggest others here do the same.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Perry/Jeb
The Republicans are never going to get the Hispanic vote anyway!..McCain tried hard risking alienating the base in 2008′…
September 30th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
A couple more polls and Perry’s lead will be no more. Looking forward to the next Rasmussen poll. Frankly the CNN poll is retarded and they should just stop doing polls of “adults” this late in the primaries.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:52 pm
Forced vaccinations, open borders and tuition grants ONLY for illegals is…..conservative? What planet ya talkin’ ’bout?
September 30th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
Just remember “Idiot for another Idiot/Some Victim” 9/12/11 as the day Slick Ricky had has best poll numbers. When he drops out you can have some consolation that he once polled over 30%.
September 30th, 2011 at 3:56 pm
Doug….#47
Perfect… “An overstuffed strutting peacock” LOL!
September 30th, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Kavon,
The various posts after #22 are NOT mine.
Funny how this IDENTITY THEFT at Race42012 only happens when Doug the troll is at work with access to multiple computers.
Very suspicious, indeed.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
#25 SixMom – Great comment.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:04 pm
Btw, #14 is from my #9 link. Sorry.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:05 pm
Perry poisoned the wells in Florida. His favorables are in line with Bachmann and Newt, and miles behind where a competitive Republican would be.
Republicans can not win the White House without Florida.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Thanks LV.
But perhaps he’s more of a Do Do Bird…
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0911/64846.html
September 30th, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Doug,
“The “Perry Can’t Win” story line is firming up like fresh concrete.”
I think the Perry is dumb line is pretty well solidified, mainly because it’s true. No politician has ever recovered from the dumb label, that I can think of. Ask Quayle or Palin.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
61.
LBJ?
Reagan?
W Bush?
September 30th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
#56:
“S” for Brains,
I have but one computer and Kavon can easily verify it was not me, today or any other day.
So lie all you want, but no one belives you.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:12 pm
63.
How many do you have at the hotel you work at, Doug Gomez?
September 30th, 2011 at 4:14 pm
61
It;s scary to watch as you see him struggle to put words together. If you;re really quiet when he speaks, you can hear the gears grinding very slowly.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:19 pm
formerly craig for huck,
YOU NEED TO GET OVER THIS. Your obsession with posting spam about your candidates is annoying. I really get turned off by it. Could you please stop spamming EVERY TOPIC WITH PERRY NONSENSE. No one CARES! I used to love it so much when you would genuinely debate stuff…but i haven’t that from you in a VERY LONG TIME.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:20 pm
Perry is quickly becoming a second tier candidate. This thing is Slippery Mitt’s to lose.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:22 pm
Rick Perry/Jeb Bush 2012! Says:
September 30th, 2011 at 2:47 pm
We need our grassroots conservative base stirred up fully with MAXIMUM enthusisam for our nominee to take down Obama’s enthusiastic liberal base.
===========================================================
Rick Perry = 4 years of Obama…
Sorry, I for one will not vote for this turkey no matter what. If he gets the nomination, me and a whole bunch of others I think will leave this republican party as it will have been taken over by the worst elements of the party.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
Kavon,
Doug is using my url and spamming this page with his usual bullshit. Please check.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:25 pm
You guys aren’t giving Perry enough credit, here read his bio.
James Richard “Rick” Perry (born March 4, 1950) is the 47th and current Governor of Texas. A Republican, Perry was elected Lieutenant Governor of Texas in 1998 and assumed the governorship in December 2000 when then-governor George W. Bush resigned to become President of the United States. Perry was elected to full gubernatorial terms in 2002, 2006 and 2010. With a tenure in office to date of 10 years, 283 days, Perry is the longest continuously serving current U.S. governor, and the second longest serving current U.S. governor after Terry Branstad of Iowa.
Perry served as Chairman of the Republican Governors Association in 2008 (succeeding Sonny Perdue of Georgia) and again in 2011.[3] Perry is the longest serving governor in Texas state history. As a result, he is the only governor in modern Texas history to have appointed at least one person to every eligible state office, board, or commission position (as well as to several elected offices to which the governor can appoint someone to fill an unexpired term, such as six of the nine current members of the Texas Supreme Court).
Perry won the Texas 2010 Republican gubernatorial primary election, defeating U.S. Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison and former Wharton County Republican Party Chairwoman and businesswoman Debra Medina.[4] In the 2010 Texas gubernatorial election, Perry won a third term by defeating former Houston mayor Bill White and Kathie Glass.[5] On August 13, 2011, Perry announced in South Carolina that he was running for the Republican nomination for President of the United States in the 2012 presidential election. Political observers and public opinion polls place him as a front-runner in the race.[
September 30th, 2011 at 4:27 pm
66.
See 56.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Kavon, 69 & 70 are not me. It’s Doug.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
reply to 70 Rick Perry/Jeb Bush 2012!
Is that the real one or the fake?
September 30th, 2011 at 4:29 pm
In Obama match-ups, Romney polls 5-6 points better than Perry in every region. Every indication is that Perry seems more likely to lose rather than gain additional ground. Perry burst onto the scene with the fanfare of the Texas jobs story. All has been a letdown since.
The NYT article today details how Obama plans to win without Ohio, by concentrating those better- educated voters inhabiting Colorado, Virginia and North Carolina. Romney is the counter to that plan, as his appeal has been to higher education/income voters.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
69, 72
??? Craig for Losers, it seems to me you’re attempting to screw with us. Quit blaming your problems on hackers that don’t exist.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
“If an illegal alien robs a bank and gives the money to his son, who then has the money through no fault of his own, and you think authorities should take that money away from the son when they arrest his father for bank robbery, then you don’t have a heart.” – Rick Perry
September 30th, 2011 at 4:37 pm
69 — As opposed to you spamming this page with your ususal bullshit?
September 30th, 2011 at 4:38 pm
50 Firecracker
Good for you! Thanks for helping Mitt!
September 30th, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Craig, now you are not only an idiot, you are really paranoid. Everything involving and surrounding you distracts from intelligent debate.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:46 pm
79. Spoken like an arrogant Rombot.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Rombots never debate, they only attack anyone who dares not join their hardcore cult, plus they childishly steal others identities when they are cornered in any discusion.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:53 pm
I’m convinced Pinocchio/Bush gets on various IPs and fakes as though people are trying to steal his ID. Or, perhaps it’s a semi-split personality. Even under normal circumstances the guy argues w/himself in a way few would be capable.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:54 pm
81
Keep drinking that Ricky cottontail Kool-aide till someone else comes along.
nobody wants to join the perrywonckle cult, the church for losers.
September 30th, 2011 at 4:56 pm
81. “Rombots never debate, they only attack anyone who dares not join their hardcore cult…”
LOL
Coming from the biggest champion of deflection & misdirection of the blogosphere. Whenever anyone hits you with real data you ignore, deflect, change the argument or post massive spam. Pot, here’s kettle…
September 30th, 2011 at 5:04 pm
I only debate with links to facts. Period.
Rombots should try that instead of constantly spewing personal attacks on anyone who questions their cultish behavior when they refuse to debate.
September 30th, 2011 at 5:17 pm
85
Links to Perry’s web site are NOT facts. Perry is only second to you in being a liar.
September 30th, 2011 at 5:23 pm
85 — The only person that is showing cultish behavior on this blog is you Craig. You REFUSE to see the reality about Perry. He’s a crook, a liar and a myth.
September 30th, 2011 at 5:28 pm
All links to Perry’s sites have further links IN them.
September 30th, 2011 at 5:30 pm
87,
You just proved my point in your silly post. THAT’S exactly how cult members act by lashing out to nonmembers like me and Perry with wild hyperbole/personal insults.
September 30th, 2011 at 5:33 pm
88. “All links to Perry’s sites have further links IN them.”
Link to the links then. No one is going to waste their time sorting through Perry’s lies to search out a credible source.
85. “I only debate with links to facts. Period.”
OK, how about you debate your candidates lying attacks? You know, the ones he received Pinocchios for. And try to do more than say, “newspaper X is a liberal paper.” Make some effort to argue the substance of whether their critiques about Perry’s honesty were legitimate.
September 30th, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Rick Perry IS a crook. No hyperbole here:
http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/img/10-10/1003TEX_perryTechNEW.pdf
September 30th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
89. It’s not even funny anymore.
Between your bulk spamming all you do is lash out with personal attacks about people who disagree with you or about Romney directly. Just read your last 10 posts. By your own definition of a “cultist,” you are the most extreme cultist on this board.
Your hypocrisy knows no bounds.
September 30th, 2011 at 5:37 pm
89
“THAT’S exactly how cult members act by lashing out to nonmembers like” Like the way you and Perry lash out at Romney????? Craig the cultist….has a ring of truth to it.
September 30th, 2011 at 5:42 pm
See Craig, just as I predicted… when someone presents you with a substantive argument and requests a rebuttal, you (1) ignore, (2) deflect, (3) change the subject or (4) mass spam.
In this case you did (1), but added one element I hadn’t considered: disappeared.
September 30th, 2011 at 5:43 pm
From what some of you folks are posting, appearently Baghdad/Shaughnessy Craig is spamming his lies and propaganda again.
I’ve found a pleasant surprise though.
Just skimming past Craig the Forked Tongued’s posts makes the threads amazingly tolerable.
Give it a try
September 30th, 2011 at 5:52 pm
Craig should be banned from this forum.
September 30th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
#73…..Thunder…..Doesn’t really matter…They are both fakes.
If we are lucky, they will get each other banned…
September 30th, 2011 at 5:56 pm
#64:
Penga Cabesa,
I am off today and when at work, I’m too busy to comment or play games with an immature, effete swish such as yourself.
Obviously Kavon is too busy to engage himself with your childish antics. But since I have previously corrsponded with him, he knows I have no involvement in what you falsely accuse me of.
So have fun lashing out blindly. It just re-enforces your image of a cry baby sissy boy.
September 30th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
#96:
I second the motion.
All those in favor say Aye!
September 30th, 2011 at 6:00 pm
Propaganda for Dummies: How to Piss Off an Entire Political Blog
By Baghdad-Shaughnessy Craig
September 30th, 2011 at 6:05 pm
Aye!
September 30th, 2011 at 6:06 pm
Sadly Kavon is too lenient with that imbecile. He has banned various over the top Rombot fanatics but people on the other side like Dotan and Craig for whichever loser today should have no place here. Craig because he is a troll.
September 30th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
He should definitely be banned. If he brought anything at all to the table I’d say keep him, but all he does is spam and insult. He never deals with substance.
September 30th, 2011 at 6:10 pm
Prancing Perry bombs in Atlanta today. He tried to attack Romney but didn’t know is audience.
Fool.
http://blogs.ajc.com/kyle-wingfield/2011/09/30/rick-perry-fizzles-bernie-marcus-sizzles-at-atlanta-event/
September 30th, 2011 at 6:17 pm
Aye!
Craig is a spammer and a troll. He ruins this site. Some people come here LESS because Craig exists.
September 30th, 2011 at 6:18 pm
Bad for Perry mounting in Iowa:
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/gop-presidential-primary/184715-gop-kingmakers-in-iowa-support-for-perry-is-weakening
Iowa is ripe for Romney to make a last minute play for. There are a few debates in Iowa just before caucus time and if he can finish on top or thisclose, he’ll be well on his way.
Many of us Romney supporters believe there has been a semi-secret Iowa option in the Romney Playbook and if the field remains soft = it could be the play of the game.
September 30th, 2011 at 6:40 pm
Wow, what a bunch of cowardly whiners.
This Christie thing getting to you much?
September 30th, 2011 at 6:42 pm
107
It has nothing to do with Christie, and everything to do with you being an annoying, brainless, pathetic troll.
September 30th, 2011 at 6:48 pm
106.
I would not be at all surprised if Romney took Iowa.
I cannot see Iowa going to Perry or Bachmann, the two earlier favorites.
September 30th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
#108: Ditto – but he’s either to obtuse to get it or he is a perverse masochist who likes to be publically humiliated.
A lame loser in either case.
September 30th, 2011 at 7:42 pm
#107…Craig….What do you expect?
You make purposely pissing people off part of your daily entertainment,
You’ll spin anything, party truth, out of context stuff, bold face lies, drunken fantasies to badmouth whoever you are not currently supporting.
You then turn around and roundly chastize less offenders for doing only minimally what you are doing all the time, every day, on every thread.
You give the concept of double standard a whole new meaning.
You clutter up every thread with non-stop repeat robo spamming that almost never adds to the thread conversation.
On top of all that, you still manage to maintain a holier than thou attitude.
And nobody believes you have a mental disability, so everyone is convinced you do it on purpose, thus casting yourself as a troll.
YOU.COULD.CHANGE.ALL.THAT.IF.YOU.WANTED.TO…
We are a rather forgiving bunch…
September 30th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Sybil,
Quit spamming on Craig’s account. It is giving him a bad reputation and diminishing the high respect he would otherwise enjoy.
September 30th, 2011 at 8:49 pm
Doug NYC GOP
Doug, thanks for all the posts and links.
I realize Baghdad Craig is paranoid about you, but it’s not you Doug, it’s the facts and truth that have him scared
Keep up the good work
October 1st, 2011 at 12:31 am
I am banning Craig from this forum. He can no longer officially post here.
October 1st, 2011 at 1:08 am
111# That was the most kind yet candid advice that “craig for …” could have gotten. Well done, hopefully “Craig for..” can take the advice and do his plethora of potential prospects a favor.
October 1st, 2011 at 1:19 am
Hispanics actually don’t seem to have similar views of immigration as the advocacy groups claiming to represent them. It isn’t that surprising, you don’t have to be Einstein to realize that USA can’t take take every one of those billion people wanting to come in.
http://cis.org/Minority-Views-Immigration
In contrast to the leadership of many ethnic advocacy groups, most members of minority groups think immigration is too high.
Hispanics: 56 percent said it is too high; 7 percent said too low; 14 percent just right.
Most members of minority groups do not feel that illegal immigration is caused by limits on legal immigration as many ethnic advocacy groups argue; instead, members feel it’s due to a lack of enforcement.
Hispanics: Just 20 percent said illegal immigration was caused by not letting in enough legal immigrants; 61 percent said inadequate enforcement.
When asked to choose between enforcement that would cause illegal immigrants in the country to go home or offering them a pathway to citizenship with conditions, most members of minority groups choose enforcement.
Hispanics: 52 percent support enforcement to encourage illegals to go home; 34 percent support conditional legalization.
In addition about one third of Hispanics thought that immigration was good for America overall, one third thought it was bad, one third thought no real difference.
October 1st, 2011 at 1:26 am
Republicans should concentrate more on advertising what their policies could give to Hispanics, most would probably love school vouchers or charter schools, and other policies, rather than dancing and apologizing around the immigration.
October 1st, 2011 at 11:37 am
117.
I totally agree. Smearing our Hispanic brothers and sisters and their children’s heritage with over the top ads lie the above will never work. But SADLY, Romney’s just too dumb to know that.
October 1st, 2011 at 11:38 am
*like
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