Well, we’ve known the strategy since last spring: lay low through the summer to avoid overexposure, then hit the ground running full speed ahead after Labor Day. And the Romney campaign is following their plan to a T, ramping up and readying for a dizzying campaign schedule starting this weekend.
Politico talked to senior Romney adviser Eric Fehrnstrom, who filled in the following details of the ramp-up:
Fehrnstrom said Romney will also conduct a more aggressive media strategy beginning next month, appearing more frequently on cable TV news and conducting local TV interviews in early primary states.
“You’ll see him take it up a notch.”
Further, Romney aides said the campaign plans to roll out more endorsements, and work internally to bolster their grassroots effort, identifying more committed voters and building coalitions.
As a Romney supporter, this is exciting. I’m especially looking forward to the strategic rollout of endorsements throughout the fall.
Oh, and Romney isn’t backing away from direct challenges to Rick Perry, either. Fehrnstrom notes that in the upcoming debates (three of them in a two week span in September), Romney plans to “engage” Perry. They don’t plan on being the first to draw blood – a wise political move – but humorously note:
“Perry will throw the first punch. He can’t help himself.”
It’s exactly what I predicted a while ago: Perry will come out swinging at Romney, learning the wrong lesson from Pawlenty’s demise and trying to win those voters who just want an attack dog to take on Obama in the general election. And when he does, Romney will be waiting – cool, calm, collected… and prepared. I can’t wait.
Beginning this weekend, the Battle Royale between Rick Perry and Mitt Romney will be turned up a notch as Romney starts to put his well-known work ethic on display and reaps the benefits of his months of organizational groundwork he has laid.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:46 pm
Oh, goody. Time to expose himself EVERYDAY to massive critical observation and examination — AND defend Obamneycare plus his poor job creating performance (47th of 50) in the state he governed now..
August 31st, 2011 at 12:47 pm
If you ask me, this would seem to be a particularly bad time for Mitt to show such symbolic support for gay marriage.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:48 pm
You need some new material brother.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:50 pm
In other words, hiding time is over as he trails badly in poll after poll after poll — while continuously trending in major negative territory vis a vie Perry.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:52 pm
No pink pamphlets or flyers again, puhlease – Gov Romney.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:54 pm
5. That’s right!
We get them this cycle.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:56 pm
Perry/Bachmann, I think you know that Mitt’s strategy has always been to begin his campaign in earnest in September, after Labor Day. It’s been stated for months. Now he’s an underdog and will have be the come-back kid. We’ll see how America takes to the message. Perry is at his zenith. It’ll be interesting to see how it plays out.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:56 pm
hacks = casuist, perry/bachmann and MarqueG.
you all act like your trying to convince yourselves Perry will win. long way to go girls!!
August 31st, 2011 at 12:56 pm
It is such a waste of time coming here and wading through all the BS comments from Promiscuous Craig, MarkyGeeWhiz, Dotan Reincarnated, Couldn’t Vote For Truth and a few of the rabid Rombots who I won’t name.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:57 pm
We’ll see what happens when voters become better educated on Perry’s record on immigration, government spending, state debt, unemployment rates, environmental mandates, education, health care, etc.
August 31st, 2011 at 12:58 pm
9. Not as Rombot here. Just a Texas tea partier who knows Perry’s record and why his favorability ratings in his home state are so low…
August 31st, 2011 at 12:59 pm
who’s your Daddy??
August 31st, 2011 at 1:03 pm
1 – you’re a tool bro…it will be nice to see the difference between a bully with nothing but rhetoric and a spotty record get taken to task by someone who will articulately pick him apart and then school him on how to move the conservative movement in a competent way getting actual results.
The conservative movement will not advance the way it’s been done before. You don’t try to eat the elephant all at once. Reagan was great at persuading people to accept conservatism and showing why it works. Bush tried it to a degree but he wasn’t respectable to the elite mindset. Rush and Perry and all of you who want to scream conservatism in people’s face are pushing a flawed strategy. It’s no different than liberals and Obama trying to shove their ideology down our throats. You can eat the elephant all at once in the primary but by the time you get to the general, you’ll be too busy in the crapper getting your lunch handed to you. Ideology vs. Politics = Politics wins. Ideology+Competence+Persuasion vs. Politics = I+C+P wins. This is the world we live in folks.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:04 pm
Here’ s something we can all agree on.
OBAMA schedules jobs speech to Congress at 8 PM on September 7. Tells GOP they are free to reschedule debate to different date.
Talk about pure , unadulterated hutzpah. This guy has brass ones. If NBC changes debate now, they will have no debaters at Reagan Library. They should go ahead an televise the debate and forget Obama
CraigS
August 31st, 2011 at 1:06 pm
This great site could use a daily Perry FPP’er now that Perry is soooooooooooo into it to win it like no other multi-term governor we’ve seen before — trending up top and upwards in every poll on the planet.
I nominate Kavon, MarqueG, Casuit, or Sojourner Truth. Or Matt “MWS” when the lights finally go on.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:12 pm
14 – Your view and many others like yours will only be heard amongst the conservatives. These thoughts will always be shielded or muffled ineffective in the mainstream.
I hear Rush complaining but then I hear the MSM spin it different. It’s hopeless.
I would be surprised if Boehner goes against it. Not holding my breath.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Perry/Bachmann for 2012! Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 12:46 pm
plus his poor job creating performance (47th of 50) in the state he governed now..
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Unemployment Rate under Romney = 5%
Unemployment Rate under Perry = 8.4
That means the unemployment rate is 168% higher in Texas under Perry than it was under Mitt Romney…. How do like those numbers… Hummmmmmmmm… okay, here come the excuses.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:13 pm
14.
Wow, CraigS — I agree with you. That said, MSNBC (the media wing of Obama, Inc.) will do whatever the White House wants.
(Even as to the questions he wants them to ask our top three candidates at the debate.)
August 31st, 2011 at 1:13 pm
Perry’s prayers are being answered if the debates are delayed or moved. He needs a little more time to prep.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:14 pm
I seriously hope Mitt is going to really try Perry. I don’t like Perry at all, but if he can beat Mitt, when Mitt is on his game, and he doesn’t get dirty and ugly, I will feel better about him.
I want the best to win. Right now, Perry gives me the heebeegeebees, but I am willing to change my mind if in debates and fair minded campaigning he turns out better than expected.
If Perry beats Mitt by being the better man, then great! We need the best we can get. I just happen to think Perry is fake and out for glory, Perry comes off as a petty man, a run of the mill politicain who will make things worse not better. The stink of corruption hangs about him.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:20 pm
“Unemployment Rate under Romney = 5%
Unemployment Rate under Perry = 8.4″
Actually when Romney left, unemployment was 4.5% (started at 5.8%)
This is a very, very good point, however. Even though Mass was 47th in job creation, there is a very good argument to make that Massachusetts had reached its peak in how many more jobs could be created at all.
Think of it this way:
Your next door neighbor’s yard is overgrown, full of weeds, and is full of garbage and a big old rusty truck.
Your own yard is pristine, beautiful, full of flowers and neatly trimmed.
The guy next door finally goes out, picks a few weeds, and tows his old truck to the junk yard. In the meantime, you’ve only trimmed a few roses. Who did more work to fix their yard? Answer: the guy with the dirty lawn.
Texas was the filthy lawn that Rick Perry managed to keep chugging along, barely.
Mass was the clean, beautiful lawn that needed very little work done in it.
Who’s lawn is better and who is the better caretaker then? The guy who ALWAYS kept his lawn clean, or the guy who had a huge mess and worked hard, but made little difference?
August 31st, 2011 at 1:21 pm
I suspect they will delay the debate until 9:00 PM. That’s prime time anyway and 6:00 PM on the coast. Just a bitch that the cable guys can’t follow up on the Presidents speech…..but the debate moderators can certainly do so. So, the GOP will have a Prime Time opportunity to drill into Barry’s musings. That is, if MSNBC doesn’t kill the debate. The President has caused a prime time headache. Everybody’s schedule is kind locked in , so they really can’t switch the debate time. There’s two more coming in Florida in a week. This may be REALLY bad news for the doofus in the White House. What a joke
CraigS
August 31st, 2011 at 1:22 pm
We’ve been writing about this campaign for lo, these many months, and it’s about to begin in earnest. I’m looking forward to watching Mitt’s counterattack unfold.
Five months is a VERY long time to try to protect a lead. I don’t think Perry will hold onto his for half that long.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:23 pm
17.
Irrelevant.
Perry’s Texas created more jobs than the other 49 states combined — therefore folks continuously flock there as the other 49 states can’t get their act together — like #47 Massachusettes, proud home of the whopper – Obamneycare.
Why do I mention that? Because while Perry was adding 26,000 brand new doctors to his state (with tons more coming – now in the TX medical application phase) — MA docs were on the other hand fleeing the state — with very likely a nice number of them heading to Dallas, Austin, San Antonio, or Houston to get great jobs.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:25 pm
The thing that worries me the most about Perry, is that I cannot understand what people see in him. He’s not intelligent, I don’t think he’s “proven”, in fact, the only think I see in his is his over-the-top rhetoric. Is that really what Republicans are looking for? If so, that is frightening to me. I hope support for him is based on something else.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:31 pm
25 — It’s because he worships the “correct” Jesus — which is just as equally frightening.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:31 pm
24
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Full_employment
Romney’s state was already considered “full employment” when he came into office (5.8%) even though he reduced it further to 4.5%. It’s an economic fact, that as employment decreases, the harder it gets to do so. A variety of factors contribute to unemployment -never- reaching 0%.
47th out of 50th in job creation would be terrible in most circumstances, but not when your state is within the range of “full employment” as Mass was under Romney.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:33 pm
The sudden rise and adulation of Perry hasn’t done him any favors because it’s kept him from becoming a better candidate…He’s become entrenched in his sudden success built without first being vetted,…Now the fun begins for him..
He isn’t living in his myopic world anymore where he was the big man on campus, where he never lost an election….
August 31st, 2011 at 1:36 pm
It will be interesting as Mitt appears to be starting his campaign to roll out his plan and give solutions, while Rick will spend the next few months on the defensive talking about his past and answering the questions and concerns about his past. That gives Mitt the advantage at least for the next couple of months since he’s already been through that process.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:37 pm
And here comes the religion card that Rombots never fail to play whenever their guy trails or loses to anyone at any time. What an insecure bunch of fools each time.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:38 pm
“Here’ s something we can all agree on.” Wow, yeah.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Wow.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:39 pm
“Actually when Romney left, unemployment was 4.5% (started at 5.8%)” Nice, let’s get Mr. Romney credit for the great economic climate that Mr. Bush created.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:41 pm
Perry / Bachmann, if you take out the oil-related jobs and the government jobs over the past 10 years in Texas, the state is middle-of-the-road in job creation. George Bush grew jobs at a rate twice as fast as Perry, and his skills didn’t translate to the national economy. Ann Richards grew jobs at pretty much the same rate as Perry, and she was a 1-term governor that faced a 2-year recession in the early 90′s.
Perry grew government jobs and spending at a massive rate
August 31st, 2011 at 1:43 pm
33
“Nice, let’s get Mr. Romney credit for the great economic climate that Mr. Bush created.”
You mean like the state Rick Perry inherited from Mr. Bush? Foot meet mouth.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:46 pm
“You mean like the state Rick Perry inherited from Mr. Bush? Foot meet mouth.” Ah, no, your camp was stupid enough to claim that Mr. Perry did not create any good jobs. Mr. Perry was able to create jobs even during the Obama recession, why should your guy get a hero buscuit for job growth during the Bush Boom. Nice try though.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:46 pm
14 what’s funny is he was originally sked to give it earlier in the day on Monday – labor day. Which is why Mitt sked his. I guess obama does not want anyone watch Romney dismantle Perry in a debate.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:48 pm
Reginald,
Yeah, about 30% of the jobs Gov. Bighair “created” were government jobs, financed by big piles of debt.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:48 pm
There’s so many variables in job growth that it’s about as relevant a Stat, as how many sunny days their state had. Unfortuanately it makes nice easy point for the intelectually lazy.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Hey Craig for Losers, the religion card is a valid one. How many times have we heard about people who say they could never vote for a Mormon?
Didn’t Rick Perry pander in front of tens of thousands of people at the National Day of Prayer, just days before officially entering the race? Hey, imagine if Mitt did something similar at a large LDS conference. The Evangelicals would have a screaming fit! So if Perry can pander to Evangelicals using religion for votes rather than based on policy — the religion card is valid card to present.
Slowly, I am finding that some bigots are just keeping quiet and will eventually reveal themselves the closer Romney clinches the nomination.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:55 pm
39:
So did gov. gardasil do anything for ten years besides drive around getting pulled over by cops, mandating gardasil, and buying and selling real estate?
August 31st, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Give me a comparison/speculation of job creation between Romney and Perry in the same state.
1. How would Romney have done in Texas?
2. How would Perry have done in MA?
too many differences/variables otherwise.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:56 pm
He just moved the speech so he could try to sneak a few of Romney’s ideas into his speech to make him sound conservative. 24 hours is enough for him to rewrite a speech isn’t it?
August 31st, 2011 at 1:57 pm
Yes, Willard “RomneyCare” Romney will take it up a notch or two from a helpful yet lonely obscurity to the ignominy of a humiliating over-exposure for the android candidate policy-innovator who developed and signed into law that fiscal disaster known as RomneyCare, which later became a burden to us all in the form of ObamaCare.
Run, Willard. Run. But wherever you run, you cannot hide from RomneyCare.
August 31st, 2011 at 1:58 pm
What if…. no one carried the president’s address? And showed it later in the evening. No network or cable outlet is obligated to carry it.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:00 pm
Trick question. Romney could never get elected in the South, and the South is where Willard’s feckless campaign of overpaid consultants who get fat at Romney’s lavish table will discover that the pantry is suddenly bare of any support for the hapless and ideologically cross-dressing author of RomneyCare.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:01 pm
To adapt an old zinger: A Rombot uses statistics like a drunk uses a lamppost: for support rather than illumination.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Perry/Bachmann for 2012! Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 1:23 pm
17.
Irrelevant.
Perry’s Texas created more jobs than the other 49 states combined — therefore folks continuously flock there as the other 49 states can’t get their act together — like #47 Massachusettes, proud home of the whopper – Obamneycare.
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Why, because it doesn’t match your premise. How do you know that if Romney was Governor of Texas he might have kept the unemployment under 6% instead of letting it rise to 8.4%
If your going to mix apples and oranges, you don’t get to choose the ones that match your premise.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:02 pm
But wherever ferry runs, he cannot hide from trying to mandate gardasil and praising hillarycare.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:02 pm
Casuist???????? Not sure where your going there, but…. hey, whatever you’ve been smoking? Put it down and sober up.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Too little, too late.
From General Douglas McArthur:
“The history of failure of war can almost be summed up in two words: too late.
Too late in comprehending the deadly purpose of the enemy.
Too late in realizing mortal danger.
Too late in preparedness.
And this could be applied to politics as well, Mr. Romney.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:05 pm
Oh, those debates……those sweet debates…..Perry sure better have his spurs on…..
August 31st, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Perry/bachmann – your so intellectually dishonest it’s pathetic. Job creation over unemployment percent????
Anyone with a brain would take 4.5% unemplyment over any job “creation” that had unemployment above 8.5%.
Unemployed in Mass under Romney 161,879
Unemployed in Texas under Perry 892,063
Job creation?????? tell that to the, almost, one million people who don’t have jobs in Texas.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Perhaps Perry should stay in TX where a heavily republican legislature can protect the people from asinine ideas like forcing HPV vaccines on teenage girls. We may not have enough republican legislators in Congress to be able to block the country from idiotic agendas driven by Perry.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:08 pm
I disagree as your claim assumes that Willard “RomneyCare” Romney ever had a chance. He’s not too late if showing up at all means a humiliating failure.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:08 pm
bob Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 2:04 pm
Too little, too late.
From General Douglas McArthur:
“The history of failure of war can almost be summed up in two words: too late.
And this could be applied to politics as well, Mr. Romney.
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You mean the General who got his rear in kicked in Korea and who had to be recalled by the president because he wanted to invade china, you mean that General?
August 31st, 2011 at 2:09 pm
51
“The history of failure of war can almost be summed up in two words: too late.
Too late in comprehending the deadly purpose of the enemy.
Too late in realizing mortal danger.
Too late in preparedness.
And this could be applied to politics as well, Mr. Romney.”
That’s funny considering Rick Perry came into the race in August, Fred Thompson style.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:10 pm
It’s too bad Romney has a better chance to beat bambi than mr. 1.9!
August 31st, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Oh Boy,
Turns out, all the details about Hillary Care were public knowledge before Ricky P. wrote his letter of commendation to her in 1993. Of particular note was the MANDATES to be included in the bill, that Perry found so attractive and asked to get Texas rural folks into.
Don’t expect to hear too much about this on Fox News. turns out, Roger Aisles and Rick’s campaign guy, carner, are old business buds from way back.
Ah, what a tangled web we weave…when first we practice to deceive
CraigS
August 31st, 2011 at 2:10 pm
Okay since no one is prepared to say it except for me…there is a strong undercurrent of religious bigotry going on and I look at the history of the way one religion felt about a certain other religion. You don’t make anti other religion videos for years about another religion for no reason.
Rick Perry’s record is spotty and a general response to, “he is governor of a state with the most jobs” is not enough. It’ll work in Texas but it won’t work anywhere else which is why he is on track for his first loss. To see his numbers rise the way they have and to see the tea party’s response to Romney after all these years of Romney saying and doing things until he’s blue in the face to prove that he’s conservative and even more so based on the way he governed compared to Perry. There is no doubt in my mind that the evangelicals are engaged in a one-way underground holy war. There, I said it and you can spin it any way you want.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:10 pm
One word: RomneyCare, a massive government entitlements program brought to you by Willard Romney, the policy basis of ObamaCare, a program wildly popular among tea partiers, southerners, and social conservatives, 3 formations of GOP constituencies that will never support Romney.
Tea partiers, on the other hand, flock to stand beneath the banner of Perry. How odd, don’t you think? Most peculiar, if you’re from another planet or something.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:12 pm
46. Casuist,
Fascinating verbiage. Do you actually speak this way in real life?
August 31st, 2011 at 2:12 pm
What’s funny is that Willard claims to only now be starting his campaign in September.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:13 pm
61 – your standing by your Romneycare and little else while overlooking all of the issues that Perry has is proof to me that you’re agenda is beyond Perry and only about Romney. Could it be because of his religion?
August 31st, 2011 at 2:13 pm
LOL! Paranoid much?
August 31st, 2011 at 2:14 pm
I like Texas swagger. Nonetheless all my money is unhesitatingly on Romney. Competence and integrity speaks to me.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:15 pm
61. Casuist –
Once again – and yet another full post later – you spin out and try to dodge the issue at hand. Do you think Perry was justified and had good rationale for trying to force the vaccines in TX? Simple question. Say nothing of Romneycare. Just answer. Do you think Perry’s agenda of mandating the vaccine was “OK”?
August 31st, 2011 at 2:16 pm
MarqueG Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 2:13 pm
There is no doubt in my mind that the evangelicals are engaged in a one-way underground holy war. There, I said it and you can spin it any way you want.
LOL! Paranoid much?
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Actually, the evidence is overwhelming. The Freedom works tea party organization head admitted it. There is no other way to explain why the vast majority of Evangelicals are voting against Romney and willing to jump on any band wagon that threatens Romney.
Frankly, I am getting very close to taking the position of never voting for an Evangelical every again. As soon as someone tries to get the Evangelical vote, I am getting close to the point as using that as a sign that I need to take my vote somewhere else. The Evangelicals are killing the conservative movement!!!!!!!!
August 31st, 2011 at 2:16 pm
65 – Paranoid? I think evangelicals are paranoid in their vehement distaste for only one religious group that thinks differently than they do. I don’t have problems with evangelicals at all. It’s on them when they create the anti other religion propaganda that they do.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:17 pm
How do I join this one-way underground holy war? Do they accept Jews? Do they offer a kosher option in the mess tent?
August 31st, 2011 at 2:17 pm
It seems these two points contradict. If we were truly an ideologically cross-dresser, then he could get elected in the South. So the question still stands, “How would Romney have done in Texas”? (compared with Perry)
August 31st, 2011 at 2:18 pm
“Job creation?????? tell that to the, almost, one million people who don’t have jobs in Texas.” And how does that compare to the other 49 states during the same time period?
August 31st, 2011 at 2:19 pm
perry said “let me shove this perrycare mandate down your throat”!
http://www.courierpostonline.com/article/20110819/OPINION02/108190316/MICHELLE-MALKIN-Perry-s-vaccine-order-exposed-lapse-political-policy-judgments
August 31st, 2011 at 2:19 pm
It’s pointless to talk to the Perry backers on this site when it’s blatant to see why they back him. There is no substance there except one for them. The Republican Party is on track to once again get labeled as bigots and they don’t even see it. Such a shame. Purity according to the Party means in every way.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:20 pm
“Do you think Perry was justified and had good rationale for trying to force the vaccines in TX?” Yes, it certainly was wrong of Mr. Perry. At least he admitted that he was wrong.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:21 pm
“The Republican Party is on track to once again get labeled as bigots” Yes, thanks to people like Rightgal who is in your camp.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:22 pm
70 – How are we to know you’re Jewish? For all you know I’m a Muslim.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:22 pm
Gov. 1.9 got a little too far ahead of the parade.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:23 pm
I didn’t say he was an effective ideological cross-dresser. He’s a very ineffective ideological cross-dresser.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:24 pm
OJ 75
Yes, he admitted he was wrong after his GOP controlled Texas legislature passed veto proof bills to cancel his legislation. I guess he has a hard time talking on his own side of the aisle, let alone leaning across. How about the Mandates in HillaryCare that he was so complimentary about. It appears they were well known to be in the legislation BEFORE he wrote his 1993 letter . Another flip flop to put in the Perry comic book
CraigS
August 31st, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Yet I would take your word for it.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:27 pm
76 – thanks to the evangelicals who for years tried to get past the racist labels only to turn around and create negative anti other religious propaganda. You eventually get caught in your hypocrisy. It just takes someone to finally call it out. For years everyone outside of the socon evangelicals within the party have been pulling them out of the dirt and here they are back their tried and true ways of looking for purity. I’m calling it how I see it. People like Rush and Hannity and Sarah Palin are all pawns.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:27 pm
Casuist -
Is the dodge intentional? It is, isn’t it? Because you can’t answer without stepping in your own pile of $hit.
But you make my point the more you try to stay clear of the subject.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Yes, of course, only I thought Perry was supposed to be Mr. Amnesty, in support of open borders or something.
Do you remember when Willard “RomneyCare” Romney got blown away in the California primary by some guy named McCain so many moons ago. Governor RomneyCare’s sudden hard line on the border to curry favour from the right was not well received by our Hispanic brothers and sisters. Once again, Romney’s bigotry rebounded into the hapless former corporate raider’s face. As for the anti-immigration formations who used to be far more powerful in the GOP, they refused to take Romney at his word, a rational decision all things considered.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:30 pm
Incredible new Romney Ad:
http://gop12.thehill.com/2011/08/romneys-very-effective-ad.html
August 31st, 2011 at 2:32 pm
Yes, only I wonder why you get to make the rules? RomneyCare is a massive government entitlement program that Willard Romney developed, and signed into law. Aren’t you proud of it? Don’t you want your candidate to run on a platform of RomneyCare for all?
August 31st, 2011 at 2:33 pm
Don’t look now, but the white-smocked fellas with the huge butterfly nets are closing in on your location as we speak…
August 31st, 2011 at 2:33 pm
“How about the Mandates in HillaryCare that he was so complimentary about. It appears they were well known to be in the legislation BEFORE he wrote his 1993 letter ” Yes, that letter was not good so hopefully, Mr. Perry won’t be President either.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:35 pm
So you are going to say that people that are against illegal imigration are bigots now. The reasons you want to follow Perry are becoming more and more evident. Dodging the past – twisting politics – dirty games – keep em comin’.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:35 pm
Casuist, do you have a fetish for Romneycare? No matter the subject, you respond to it with Romneycare somewhere in the sentence.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:36 pm
“People like Rush and Hannity and Sarah Palin are all pawns.” Yes, I know you are a religious bigot against Mrs. Palin. BTW, were you involved in burning down her Church? Just askin.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:37 pm
86. LOL – is anybody else chuckling out loud at how casuist is incapable of dealing with his candidate’s black eye?
10 posts now of trying to get your opinion on PerryCare and his mandate towards teenage girls and you still can’t even say a word about it. Paranoid much?
August 31st, 2011 at 2:37 pm
Bygones. HillaryCare disappears from history. But RomneyCare still uncoils itself like a blind serpent of fiscal calamity and policy abuse, and now it confronts us all as ObamaCare, and I think to a lot of GOP voters who have had enough of progressive policy these past 3 years, this is probably going to matter. Call it a hunch.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:39 pm
85. What I really like about Romney’s ads are the are pretty much non-candidate specific.
any of the candidates could have made them, and thus, they all benefit by knocking Obama.
I don’t see how they help Romney specifically, except if he considers himself the de facto nominee (which I think he did and maybe still does)
August 31st, 2011 at 2:41 pm
Yes, only I addressed this question a ker-jillion times from the Rombats. Answer: Bygones. Perry recanted the issue. Has Romney recanted RomneyCare?–which is a massive government entitlements program that become the policy basis of ObamaCare? Well, no, he defends it, he still supports it, and I for one am pleased that he embraces his progressive policies even if he needs work trying to articulate them in a language he just doesn’t understand, the language of conservatism.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:41 pm
There is no conservative movement in the Republican Party. Rush, Hannity, Beck and all know who their audience is. If there was a movement Romney’s mormonism wouldn’t have mattered DAY ONE.
84 – Look at your argument. You’re judging Romney having someone who he had no idea was illegal working under the company he hired. Yet you don’t mind that a governor of a state is taking into his own hands the law and opening the borders? I don’t understand that mindset. No one can. The things that have been presented to you about Perry are very damning and you don’t care? You let it slide? I don’t get it. Why the double standard?
That question goes to anyone who has this same mindset. I understand being behind your guy but really was this your guy? Or was it the other one? Or the other one? I don’t get this anyone but Romney meme anyways. If we’re all conservatives then let’s talk about the agenda and who moved it in their past and can move it for us in the future. If we can’t do that I will question you and so should everyone else.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:41 pm
92
He’s new to the site. He doesn’t realize RomneyCare has been beaten like a dead horse, when was it…like last March? Through all of it, Romney’s poll numbers didn’t budge an inch over it.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:44 pm
Yes, only I get such joy reminding people about RomneyCare, the policy-basis of ObamaCare.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:44 pm
And when did he recant on that casuist? When he ran for president? Huh…..convenient?
Because he knows that it is a political bomb for him he backs away from the very thing he spearheaded and try to shove down TX’s throat. Yeah – that’s who I want.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:44 pm
“If there was a movement Romney’s mormonism wouldn’t have mattered DAY ONE.” If you think that Mr. Romney’s religion is his biggest or even second or third biggest problem, you have your head in the sand. I would not vote for the guy if he were Catholic.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:47 pm
8 of 12 comments Casuist where you use the word Romneycare….. Going Tom Tancredo on everyone and now considered a one topic commenter.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:47 pm
Romney’s a Mormon? Good for him! But it’s got nothing to do with RomneyCare or the government entitlement programs in general that are spiralling out of control, like ObamaCare which is based on RomneyCare, so as far as I’m concerned it’s off-topic.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Yes, and when did Romney recant RomneyCare? Never. He defends it, because he is a progressive though he cross-dresses as a conservative at conservative events.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:51 pm
From a post earlier today from Craig for “flavor of the month”
So according to Rick’s new friend he doesn’t necessarily feel like he had bad reasoning for making the decision he made. Not sure that would be considered a recant. More of a slight back down to reduce the sting without showing complete incompetence.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:52 pm
Casuist #79
Your comments about Romney and your hatred for him has gone to a new level…. the crazy level….
August 31st, 2011 at 2:52 pm
91 – Sarah Palin is a pawn…she doesn’t know it. There is a movement but it’s not 100% conservative. From what I see, the tea party movement at the grassroots has been overtaken by evangelicals. How strong it’s taken over? We’ll see. I’m interested to see how they accept Romney in New Hampshire of all places. It’s interesting to see that Romney did nothing except go out to push conservative outsiders in 2010. He worked tirelessly and raised funds for these candidates. Have you seen the reports of some of these Tea Party factions? Why are they going to protest Romney? Look under the surface and you’ll see I’m not too far off.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:55 pm
Dude. You need to discuss your feelings in a caring, therapeutic environment.
(And LV says I’m crazy.)
August 31st, 2011 at 2:57 pm
casuist’s at 10 for 12 now using “RomneyCare”. Let’s keep this going!
August 31st, 2011 at 2:58 pm
It is true that I hate RomneyCare or any expansion of entitlements, e.g. ObamaCare, which is based on RomneyCare. The country is bankrupt.
August 31st, 2011 at 2:59 pm
11!
August 31st, 2011 at 3:01 pm
71.
LOL!
And yes we do!
August 31st, 2011 at 3:04 pm
I can’t wait until the debates.
Then EVERYONE will be talking about RomneyCare.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:07 pm
Talking about obomneycare already took out one candidate (zzzpaw). Next.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:08 pm
113,
No it didn’t. Wussing out after bringing it up when his poll numbers flatlined at 3 is what took out T-Paw.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:09 pm
Oh, yes, and Romney will be forced to defend mandates, and entitlements, and the expansion of the size and scope of government activity, and everything the newly formed libertarian and Tea Partier formations of the GOP in the Obama era loath, despise, and reject out of hand.
Good times. Sigh.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:09 pm
And I thought CF was banished to the “time out” chair.
No?
August 31st, 2011 at 3:10 pm
@REGINALD……..appreciate hearing from a TXan that seems to be honest but not vindictive about Perry’s tenure. You could do a great service by continuing to bring out the truth!
August 31st, 2011 at 3:11 pm
Great moments in Planet Romney history.
Mitt: “I like mandates! The mandates work!”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhx8e9j7r0w
August 31st, 2011 at 3:13 pm
107 – This isn’t about my feelings. This is about the conservative movement which I believe in very strongly based on it’s principles. The Tea Party back in 2009 when the guy who coined the phrase came together as a grass roots movement. It was based on the government overreaching it’s bounds.
Everyone, old, young, rich, poor, black, white were all there coming together under a conservative principle. There were no Republicans and Democrats at the time and if we as Republicans were smart we would have left it that way and let the conservative principles take it’s course, allowing it work to persuade the people, the right way. But we Republicans couldn’t leave well enough alone could we? Factions started to take “leadership” roles to get gain. Bachmann, DeMint, Palin, Rush, Hannity, you name it! People like Romney didn’t want to take a leadership role and they were smart not to. Then you had Gingrich, Santorum and the like who are now fringe at best.
Before you knew it everyone that wasn’t pure was being pushed out and now they really don’t have a place to go again and I guarantee you they’re up for grabs now as opposed to leaning toward our side and it’s because of the Tea Party as it stands now. The tea party negatives are only getting bigger and will continue to get bigger now that you have the MSM and people in congress labeling you if you’re tea party now.
It’s sad to watch yet it’s what we’re doing to ourselves.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:14 pm
106. I’m an evangelical and I assure you that I will not be voting for Rick Perry in the Florida Primary. Regarding evangelical plots/schemes to deny Romney the nomination, that’s just laughable, we’re loosely organized, at best.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:17 pm
But if you deny the conspiracy then you are a part of the conspiracy. Tell us your secrets!
August 31st, 2011 at 3:18 pm
The MSM is doing all it can to neutralize the tea party to just the Republican Party. You people who don’t see it are in for a surprise and you’ll be hoping someone like Romney represents us.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:19 pm
116. Egad, he’s escaped!
August 31st, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Anyone who thinks “casuist” is a relentlessly vapid, willfully uninformed, ineffectual, unoriginal bore, say “I!”
August 31st, 2011 at 3:22 pm
I now realize why many of the great objective commenters are gone from this site (there are still a few) because the comments are overrun by the “repeaters”. I don’t enjoy reading the comments like I used to. Sad because I enjoy the website.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:22 pm
120 – You’re one of many. But I would argue that you’re not above the fray. You may laugh as an evangelical but deep down behind that laugh is a slight questioning, otherwise you wouldn’t have needed to state that you’re loosely organized.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:26 pm
I
August 31st, 2011 at 3:29 pm
124. Not I. He is very informed, has a fascinating writing style, he’s effective as evidenced by his meeting his objective of skewering Rombots and sending many of us into a tizzy.
What I do think is that he is willfully disingenuous, a master of spin, and talented at bobbing and weaving. He even puts Craig for Who This Month to shame.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:30 pm
I need more Romneycare discussion, not less. More, more, more… and please defend it, Rombots.
Let’s talk about the joy of BIG GOVERNMENT mandates, exchanges, and subsidies some more and how they’re all soooooooooooo conservative.
So conservative in fact, that Obama used it for his Obamacare plan of BIG GOVERNMENT mandates, exchanges, and subsidies.
I wonder if Romneycare aka the Obamneycare monstrosity will come up in each and every one of the debates in September??? And will Romney tell us how proud he is of it again and again??? Please, we can’t wait…..
August 31st, 2011 at 3:31 pm
I!!!! X 1000
But he keeps making my point for me. So I don’t mind him being around.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:32 pm
130:
Nice!
August 31st, 2011 at 3:37 pm
128
He is not well-informed at all. He keeps saying Romneycare is an “entitlement” and a “fiscal disaster” – when all factual numerical evidence points exactly to the contrary.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:38 pm
129. “I need more Romneycare discussion, not less. More, more, more… and please defend it, Rombots.”
Isn’t that Casuist’s schtick? Having trouble coming up with your own material?
August 31st, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Don’t Rombots believe RomneyCare and ObamaCare are brothers?
August 31st, 2011 at 3:38 pm
#106 Conservative Gladiator
Romney gave money, campaigned and traveled the country helping get people elected…but the Tea Party is taking credit….The actual candidates personally picked by the Tea Party lost…
August 31st, 2011 at 3:39 pm
132. Oh he’s very well informed–he just doesn’t share his knowledge and insight here, because that would force him away from his objectives. That’s why he will come across as uninformed.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:41 pm
I’m listening to Hannity playing all the blacks talking about how racist the tea party is. Who do you think is listening to this? Who do you think is going to play this up? Hannity can talk about it all he wants but when you push a “tea party” candidate in 2012, you’re toast. The only other person not getting the tea party love aside from Romney is Paul who I don’t agree with.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:41 pm
134. Ok, now that was funny–good one!
August 31st, 2011 at 3:41 pm
Casuist puts the misinformed to shame, whomever that may be — is more like it.
And he tells it like it is. Of course, it stings a bit more if you’re 100% vested in Romney for President Enterprises at this point in time with Perry surging. But if it wasn’t Perry, it would have been Huck. Or Bachmann. Or Huntsman. Or someone.
(Hey, I wonder if Perry will bring up Romneycare/Obamacare about five times during the debates?)
August 31st, 2011 at 3:42 pm
Eye! And I refuse to relent in my project of reminding the whole world about … wait for it … wait for it … RomneyCare! … Ha! I’ll bet you Rombats never saw that coming … which is a (everybody repeat after me)massive government entitlement program that became the model for–oh, this will surprise you–ObamaCare!
I just never get tired of that. Never.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:43 pm
Nope – not even distant 2nd cousins thrice removed through adoption.
70 pages vs 70 lbs of paper. Really distant relation. Isnt’ even invited to the family reunion – because they don’t know eachother.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
121.casuist Says:
August 31st, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Regarding evangelical plots/schemes to deny Romney the nomination, that’s just laughable, we’re loosely organized, at best.
But if you deny the conspiracy then you are a part of the conspiracy. Tell us your secrets!
===
I was told we had a meeting on Thursday at Denny’s to go over the secret plans.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
Why don’t we all just adopt a policy of totally ignoring everything Craig and Casusit have to say?
Just don’t talk to them. They have no sway or influence over people on this site anyway.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:44 pm
135- It was the “leaders” that decided to leech onto the tea party for political gain that have mistakenly overshot their influence. Look at the grassroots and what the makeup of the majority there is. It’s no coincidence that they’re as hypersensitive as they are about purity within the party – not conservatism.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:45 pm
Is that your only distinction? Page length?
August 31st, 2011 at 3:46 pm
The Communist Manifesto was short too.
It wasn’t any less powerful and influential for 73 years.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Fiddlesticks! The jig is up! I’ll be shunned while I prate on and on about RomneyCare! But I demand your attention. I crave it. Please, please read every empty word I type as I use this once proud site as my own personal graffiti wall to tell everyone about RomneyCare.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Seriously though, on the subject of this post, I’m going to be very curious HOW Romney ramps up his campiagn.
“Attack dog” isn’t Romney’s natural state of being. And any nasty attacks or “contrasts” traced back to Romney, Inc. are still going to be blamed on Romney.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Can you say there is nothing different in 2000 pages of typing?
The page length goes to show that there has to be plenty of differences unless they just said………….
this health care bill is very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, important bill………and it help people very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, much…….
August 31st, 2011 at 3:50 pm
135 – also if you remember leaders within the Republican Party ran to push candidates as tea party. The left wanted to neutralized them and they started to do it and pushed them right we’re lucky they didn’t have more time. This time around it will be too easy.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:52 pm
121. Exactly. Protestants, by definition, are not monolithic, we don’t organize… or conspire well.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:53 pm
I’ve been saying it for only three years here..
More Romneycare excuses, please — keep digging Romney’s grave.
Yeah, but I agree Casuist’s probably been with it a tad longer though.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:53 pm
Precisely. You never go negative if your negatives are higher than your opponent. Romney learned this lesson again and again when he went negative against McCain in Florida and other states. He would pull McCain down even as his own numbers sailed right into the toilet–but he never seemed to care whether his attacks were more costly to himself or to his opponent, or to even understand the correlation–it was like it was personal for him or something.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:53 pm
A 70 page book probably is massive to them.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:54 pm
147 – If all Perry is going to talk about it Romneycare great. Romney’s already talked that to death. Bring it up at every debate so there is no more question about it. I hope he’s ready for Romney to pick his government apart piece by piece at each and every debate. I’m sure there will be things in there that Perry didn’t even know except for the benefit for him to do it.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:56 pm
But it’s so wonderfully effective. Every baseless charge against Perry or attempt to change the subject to some baseless charge against Perry becomes a pivot to talk about … wait for it … wait for it …
August 31st, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Why Perry can beat Obama and Romney doesn’t stand a chance in some very hot place:
http://spectator.org/archives/2011/08/30/why-perry-can-beat-obama-and-r#
August 31st, 2011 at 3:59 pm
“Hey, I wonder if Perry will bring up Romneycare/Obamacare about five times during the debates?”
Yeah, hopefully. Then Romney can educate Perry on why such an endeavor can potentially work in MA, despite the warts, but not at all in many other states, including Perry’s own Texas. And furthermore, that it would be a disaster on a national level and that he will have as one of his priorities the dismantling of it and returning such decisions to the states.
After that, according to you, Perry will bring it up 4 more times. I hope so! It’ll appear Perry has comprehension difficulties.
August 31st, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Boehner straight up told Obama to move his speech. I have hope…
August 31st, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Like how he spear headed a mandate that overrode a parents choice in TX for medical take over through the govt. Or how he supported Hillarycare and what it was becoming, INCLUDING THE NATIONAL MANDATE AND SINGLE PAYER SYSTEM.
Yup those won’t go far at all. Easy sailing for Perry through this. HA!
To steal a phrase from tele – I can’t stop smiling.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:00 pm
Sojourner Truth….
You are a Troll and a Hack!
August 31st, 2011 at 4:03 pm
156.
Oh, I agree. It’s a gift from Romney heaven.
I don’t know what Willard was even thinking at the Romney/Kennedy joyful Romneycare signing party. Unless he never intended to run for president at that time.
Anyway — It’s all on youtube and it’s the final nail.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:06 pm
159. Very cool.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:07 pm
Mitt, Apologize for RomneyCare — or Forget the Nomination
http://www.postchronicle.com/commentary/article_212380355.shtml
August 31st, 2011 at 4:07 pm
And the polls following each debate will reflect Republicans love for Obamneycare mandates, exchanges, and subsidies.
LOL! How can Willard ever lose on that subject?
Stay tuned. I’ll show ya — I mean Kavon will with the new polls
August 31st, 2011 at 4:08 pm
I’ll just post the happiest on each thread. Oops, now I sound like Telly.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:09 pm
Oh, they’re flocking even as we speak as every poll registers a solid surge of support for
RomneyPerry.August 31st, 2011 at 4:11 pm
Why does Perry not release his e-mails??? Had a provision passed to seal them for 18 months. WHY??? Is he hiding something???
August 31st, 2011 at 4:12 pm
Romney: “I apologize for nothing! I love MANDATES and so will you if you only elect me!”
August 31st, 2011 at 4:13 pm
He aint the only one without mandate. IS HE,, HOWABOUT PERRY???
August 31st, 2011 at 4:14 pm
167.
Yeah, I think the word got out early. Who spilled the beans all over the media?
August 31st, 2011 at 4:14 pm
Whoa! Those all-caps are a nice touch. Was HillaryCare single-payer?–no, but who cares?–it was all a lot of vaporware that passed into history stillborn from the womb of a legislature that lost its way. Bygones! No one cares. But the massive and fiscally irresponsible government entitlement program called RomneyCare still exists, only it morphed into ObamaCare, a progressive policy solution from a progressive candidate.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:14 pm
162 – that’s easy, it’s called advancing conservatism in an 85% democrat state where you’re able to and not standing on the sidelines or shouting while nothing gets advanced. Romney could’ve moved to Utah and became a politician but why do things for the sake of politics?
Had Texas been a blue state Perry would be welcome as a Democrat and wouldn’t have needed to switch parties. He could’ve been the next Jimmy Carter (he may have even voted for him over Reagan, but who knows?). His social conservative evangelical views in tact and his tax and spending ways in tact as well as creating jobs using all his TARP money in tact.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:15 pm
And I’m sure that Republicans will love Perry’s $27 billion deficits, tripling the state’s debt, pay for play, and living like a King off of taxpayers.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Hamaca thinks Romney’s going to educate Perry on Obamneycare. Wow!
That’s the weirdest post I read this month. And today’s the 31st.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:17 pm
Some other Rombat complained that Perry wiped his emails every 7 days at the stroke of midnight as he raised foul demons up from the conjuring circle on his pagan alter of the higher mysteries or something. Now the story goes that he embargoes his email for 18 months probably in a crypt somewhere with zombie sentries under vampire commanders? Someone must stop this Perry fellow. He scares me!
August 31st, 2011 at 4:17 pm
WHY has Perry not filed his 2010 federal income tax YET… IS he hiding something????
August 31st, 2011 at 4:18 pm
I know. I know. I just wish it were true.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:19 pm
Why don’t you ask him?
August 31st, 2011 at 4:21 pm
177 – and you believe that Perry’s gonna educate us about anything?
August 31st, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Perry was democrat before he was against it.
Perry was for hillarycare before he was against it..
Perry was for Guilani before he was against him.
Perry was for mandate before he was against it.
Perry was for bi-national Mexico healthplan before hew as against it.
Perry was for the texas- mexico super highway before he was against it,,
ETC… And they call Romney a flip-flop,,, LORD has anyone looled at this GUY??????
August 31st, 2011 at 4:25 pm
How did Perry make millions of dollars while drawing a Governors salary of approx 140,000 year????
August 31st, 2011 at 4:25 pm
He’s teaching Romney a lesson right now about how to achieve a rapport that passes into a unity of support with a divided GOP base. Apparently authenticity was the big secret. I can just see Romney smacking his forehead even now. Authenticity! he shouts to … no one. Then he turns to his white-lab coated handlers at their stations behind their trays of surgical instruments and shouts: MAKE ME AUTHENTIC!
August 31st, 2011 at 4:26 pm
180 – I’d rather talk about RomneyCare.
Romney’s “accomplishment”…
August 31st, 2011 at 4:26 pm
176. Maybe he filed an extension.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:29 pm
Do. They. Ever. And rightfully so, don’t you think? But at least he never flipped on that flop called … wait for it … ROMNEYCARE!
August 31st, 2011 at 4:30 pm
According to MSNBC right now, Rudy is seriously looking at getting in!
Go Rudy!
August 31st, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Haha. Absolutely. Go Rudy!
August 31st, 2011 at 4:33 pm
“Let’s talk about the joy of BIG GOVERNMENT mandates, exchanges, and subsidies some more and how they’re all soooooooooooo conservative.”
You do realize that Reagan, a conservative icon, signed a federal mandate called the Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act in 1986 don’t you?
Has evangelical Perry prayed and ready to take on Reagan and Romney regarding mandates?
August 31st, 2011 at 4:34 pm
Yes! Let’s see Romney bleed support from the right AND the left.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:36 pm
“According to MSNBC right now, Rudy is seriously looking at getting in!”
When has he stopped being serious about looking at getting in, that the better news story.
Yet another “he may get in” story is a yawner.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:38 pm
182 – You’re mistaking authenticity with Republican Party purity unless you’re in on it. The gig is up man. Look at 180 on this thread and then 183. You don’t think that’s a problem? Where’s the discussion? Right now the only unity that’s going on is the one among the socon evangelicals usurping the tea party at the expense of the overall conservative movement. I’m hearing Hannity talk about individual responsibility and fiscal policies and yada yada about the tea party. Little does he know that the tea party is being run by socon who care less about that as evidenced by the push for Perry.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:38 pm
If Rudy announces, as some are predicting, on the 10th anniversary of 9-11, it could potentially be one of the most powerful and evocative Presidential announcements ever filled with symbolism. It would likely dominate several news cycles and would be a formidable launch to a campaign.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:39 pm
Rudy is an idiot if he wants to get in. The tea party will eat him up too. Oh wait! He’s not Mormon so maybe that’s a deal breaker.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:40 pm
192 – If Rudy announces on the anniversary of 9-11, he’ll be no different than any democrat that used the Wellstone memorial to put down Republicans.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:49 pm
Wait, what is this about Romney care, I don’t think myself and anyone else knows much about that. That seems awfully important to learn about before this election season.
Oh wait. Romney care seems so 2008. What else should are we going to learn about Romney, that he is a Mormon? Romney is a known commodity. Just wait till we learn about Perry Care which requires 12 year old girls to get STD vaccines from companies that Perry has ties too.
I would bet that more GOP voters (nearly all of them) know about Romney care and Romney’s Mormonism, etc- while few if any know about Perry’s McCain like immigration policies, or his being a Democrat, or his big spending, or his cronyism, or his support of mandates for STD vaccines to financially benefit his friends.
It’s funny that the Rom-Nots think that reminding voters of Romney care will kill Romney. They already heard that story…. a few thousand times.
August 31st, 2011 at 4:51 pm
If Rudy gets in, will he skip Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, South Carolina, Florida, Arizona, and Michigan and go immediately campaign in…. New Jersey for Super Tuesday?
I bet he would do something stupid like that.
August 31st, 2011 at 5:00 pm
195 – Socon Republican Purists don’t care about any of that except maybe the Mormon thing oh and hiding it behind Romneycare.
August 31st, 2011 at 5:02 pm
Seems like perry should have done something to help the 35% of texans that have no health ins..
And by the way THE people MA must have wanted Ma state healtcare OR they would not have voted for it..
And by the way WHAT were the other Governors doing??? Heritage Foundations, ( that liberal) , organization were the ones thaT TOUTED mandates,, See how many republicians Both house and senate were on board for individual mandates it off set HIllarycare… How quick people forget,
August 31st, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Here is the solar cell company that Obama touted as the future. lol.
“Fremont-Based Solyndra Goes Bankrupt; 1,100 Workers Laid Off”
http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2011/08/31/fremont-based-solyndra-shuts-down-operations-1100-laid-off/?utm_source=home&utm_medium=dl&utm_campaign=fremont-based-solyndra-shuts-down-operations-1100-laid-off
August 31st, 2011 at 5:07 pm
There is only one state that the mandate in Ma. effects and that being the Commonwealth of Ma. If you do not live in Ma why should you give a rat a** about this healthcare.. Has nothing to do with 49 other states, Unless you want to throw the religion into the equations..
August 31st, 2011 at 5:09 pm
If you listen to CASUIST, you would have have to conclude that Mr. Perry was the biggest FLIP-FLOPPER of all time.
Flipped on the teenage girl mandate
flopped on the Hillary health care
flipped on the Illegal alien freeway
flopped on the dream act
etc….
etc…..
etc……
lets just call him Ricky Cotton tail, flipity flopity………..
I really think Perry would do better if casuist and the other hacks started to rout for his competitors.
August 31st, 2011 at 5:21 pm
LOL
Rudy…….of the law firm of Bracewell and Guiliani, whose clients include CINTRA, the Spanish contractor for Perry’s TTC ( Trans Texas Corridor for Nafta). First, Perry wants to claim a couple of million acres by eminent domain from Texans, so he uses his Bud’s law firm. Then, he even siphons the jobs off- shore to a Spanish consortium.
My God, is there no end to these Katzenjammer Kids ?
CraigS
August 31st, 2011 at 5:41 pm
Why has Perry not filed his Federal income tax for 2010??? Is he hiding something??? How does a governor make millions while holding a govenment job????
August 31st, 2011 at 5:46 pm
Let’s talk about Romneycare…
Fact is that if more governors and states had taken the initiative to tackle the health care issue like Romney did, there would be no Obamacare. Of course, each state would’ve been able to handle health care their own way, and the Massachusetts plan would’ve looked a lot different than the plan my state, South Carolina, would’ve come up with. Tim Pawlenty used to say he reformed healthcare “the right way.” Truth is, there is no one “right way,” but fifty different right ways – each state has its own needs, and the people of each state have their own policy preferences. Romney has the guts to tackle to tough issues, and he has the guts to defend his efforts, if more governors had had Romney’s guts, there would never have been such a thing as Obamacare.
August 31st, 2011 at 5:48 pm
I’m looking forward to Romney’s expanded campaigning. I only hope it won’t include yet more requests for cash from me.
August 31st, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Mitt needs to adopt a “Lunch Pail Mitt” strategy which involves doing a pickup truck tour of South Carolina, wearing plaid shirts and skinny jeans, hunting and making unannounced shopping trips to Walmart. Mitt needs to get with the folks because right now he is as foreign as a Canadian to most GOP primary voters.
August 31st, 2011 at 6:23 pm
206. Well, maybe Rick needs to adopt a sophisticated, Euro-style, metrosexual persona. Cuff links (wait, he already wears those), hair slicked back, caviar, drop the sh*t-licking grin for a haughty frown, and speak with a Boston Brahmin accent.
August 31st, 2011 at 6:25 pm
Are you characterizing most gop voters as walmart shopping, plaid wearing hunters? Or do you mean gop voters in SC? (or maybe the south)
August 31st, 2011 at 6:48 pm
Mitt Romney did tackle the health care problem in Ma. With the approval of the people of Ma. They passed a healthcare plan for their state.. Has nothing to do with Texas or any other state.. Why did not 49 other governors and legislatures do siomething for their state. IF so we would never had OBAMACARE,, No everybody seems to have fallen int the Ricky Ricardo syndrom.. YOU GO A LOTS SPLANING TO DO…
August 31st, 2011 at 7:16 pm
Still have not seen a good defense for Omaneycare. He could have stood against. He would probably the nominee now if he had.
I believe he will be Bush on steroids. He will buckle to the spending to get along. When he does the party will blow apart. It would be better to let Obama win than have the party blow apart. My nephew married the daughter of a very famous person in the golfing. He told me we should let Obama win again and the Democrats will never get in again. I told him the real problem with that was the Supreme Court.
I supported Bush and his compassionate conservatism (more spending) in 2000. That may have been a mistake. I think McCain would have been more of a deficit hawk.
Many indepedents in my town are very upset with the spending. This is the time to strike. I just believe Romney is the least likely to strike.
Then there is the abortion problem. How come three diffenent opinions. When is the fourth coming.
I just do not want to put my faith in jello. I’m not sure I support Perry yet. Howerever the other conservatives have their prolems like the Everglades, leaving office 1/2 way through a term,and having Fed fixation and a isolationist foreign policy.
August 31st, 2011 at 7:19 pm
#208 Welby….
LOL….
August 31st, 2011 at 7:42 pm
210 What are you expecting as a good defense??? Romney get down on his knees and beg your forgiveness???
August 31st, 2011 at 8:04 pm
#212 No! Explain to me why it was fiscally responsible. Don’t blame Democrat excesses after he left office. HE knew if he had any political understanding that they would do that. He thought he would have a feather in his cap to run on extending Bush’s compasionate conservatism. 2008 blew that idea up.
If it was good for Mass, why not for the country. Do not give me the state’s right argument. Why was the plan good. Don’t say the Dems forced him. That is @#@##@@&^ If they had been able to override his veto, fine. He would not have been at fault. He would have been a hero to the party.
The jello just shivers and shakes.
Please explain why he would not be a Bush spender.
August 31st, 2011 at 8:13 pm
He did 7 time veto items which were over ridden..
August 31st, 2011 at 8:41 pm
#214. Can you not defend his signing of the bill? I want some honesty here. All I have heard from him is state’s rights and the Dems made it worse after he left. Why should I believe he will stand against the Dems in Congress?
Please, Please, if it was good for Mass, why not the country? If it was good for Mass, why not for other states? If Obamacare is struck down, in my heart I know, he will want to advocate some system of care. What would that be?
He vetoed 7 bills. So they were overridden. What is your point? Let them override. I’m not sure Bush vetoed anything. That is not a badge of honor.
August 31st, 2011 at 8:56 pm
If you will go to Factcheck.org Mar 25, 2011, Romneycare fact and falsehoods.
I said romney vetoed parts of the healthcare bill, dealing with cost, each was overridden with veto, proof votes.. It appears the mandate is the sticking points of your argument. As a matter of fact Romney was using Commenwealth of Ma. Past laws.. Gov Samuel Adams signed into law paupercare, requiring individuals in mas to pool money to pay for pauper care. John Hancock Enacted the firstmandate requiring allMa res to serve in the militia.
1790 First federal healthcare mandate, requiring each ship to carry medical supplies. And of copurse Ronald Reagan mandate each hospital to serve everyone.. So Romney did not mandate without presedence..
August 31st, 2011 at 9:16 pm
#216 Thank you for finally responding. I still have a problem with everyone advocating plans that cannot control spending. I still say if had vetoed the bill to the end, he would be in much better shape. In #214 you did not make clear what bills were vetoed.
I heard a South Carolina doctor give the best way I think of handling medical care. That is that everyone be required to have a $250,000 policy. Then the government would pick up the excess. Most people do not reach the policy limit. It is the higher limits that force insurance company’s to charge such high premiums. This doctor said Obamacare would force all but two non profit hospitals in South Carolina to eventully close. We may see.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:14 pm
I think Romney could turn Romneycare into a bit of an advantage.
He simply needs to clearly outline the problem, explain our beloved Reagan’s role in creating the problem and then explain the options considered in Massachusetts and ultimatlely what Massachusetts did to address the situation and why he felt it was the best choice for his state.
Next, he needs to say this: I don’t like the giant national program that Obamacare represents either but I believe if every other governor would’ve taken proactive steps like I did to deal with issue on a state-wise basis, there would have never been a need for a bureaucratic national solution. He would further outline some of the options that other governors could’ve taken and then say he believes he provided real leadership on a state level but because other governors took a pass and refused to deal with the problem, the President and “Washington” felt they had to intervene with a one-size-fits-all national program.
In doing so, Romney contrasts his action with do-nothing governors like Perry and re-frames the debate. He then could argue he is not the cause of Obamacare but rather less proactive governors were.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:19 pm
209 Jerry,
Just read your post after I’d submitted the above. Obviously we are thinking alike. I don’t understand why Romney doesn’t use this line of defense.
August 31st, 2011 at 10:22 pm
204 Rob SC,
Again. I agree. See above.
That’s how Romney needs to reply to Perry if he attacks on the subject of Romneycare.