Bad Blood Between Romney and Perry?

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1. Dave Says:
   August 29th, 2011 at 11:12 am

   Haberman’s article suggests Mitt doesn’t think Perry is very bright, but offers no evidence that he doesn’t like Rick.

   If there’s bad blood, it’s on Rick’s side. But if there IS, it would explain a LOT.

2. CF Says:
   August 29th, 2011 at 11:23 am

   This is a media creation to generate ratings, nothing more.

3. Rightgal. Says:
   August 29th, 2011 at 11:24 am

   Dave, If there is, it seems to be very one sided on Perry’s part. Mitt is acting like a grown up. Perry is acting like a petulant child.

4. Massachusetts Conservative Says:
   August 29th, 2011 at 11:31 am

   2

   NAILED it.

5. Riccardo Says:
   August 29th, 2011 at 11:32 am

   There is no story here….hopefully the campaign teams won’t feed the beast!

6. Bachmann/Perry ’12 (Or reverse it!) Says:
   August 29th, 2011 at 11:47 am

   Good post, Kavon

   Besides dissing Perry, Romney has been dissing entire grassroots conservative orgs like..

   Mitt Romney keeps distance from tea party groups

   In fact, these tea party organizers say they can’t recall the former Massachusetts governor ever speaking at a tea party gathering, unlike nearly all of his primary opponents.

   “To my knowledge, Mitt Romney has never requested to participate in one of our tea party events or rallies,” said Jacqueline Bodnar, a spokeswoman at FreedomWorks, the Washington, D.C.-based organization led by former House leader Dick Armey. The group helped organize events like the 9/12 March on Washington in 2009 and annual “tax day” rallies.

   Bodnar said there has been very little contact between FreedomWorks and Romney. The group’s president, Matt Kibbe, briefly met with Romney during the 2010 election season, she said.

   Another national figure in the movement, Mark Meckler, a national coordinator for the Tea Party Patriots, also said Romney “certainly never reached out to our organization, not that I’m aware of.”

   “I’m not aware of him speaking at any tea party events,” Meckler said. “I couldn’t say conclusively he hasn’t, but not that I’ve ever seen.”

   Meckler, whose Tea Party Patriots is an umbrella organization for thousands of local groups, suggested Romney missed a great opportunity, especially during the health care battle, to come before tea partiers and argue against the bill.

   “I think he was probably the perfect guy to make the argument,” Meckler said. Romney, he said, could have talked about how he knows from personal experience that the policies in the health care bill would be a mistake. Romney famously oversaw a state health care law in Massachusetts similar to the one pushed by Obama.

   Likewise, a source at Tea Party Express, who has taken several bus tours across the country holding rallies, said Romney hasn’t been involved in any of that group’s events.

   Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/29/mitt-romney-keeps-distance-from-tea-party-groups/#ixzz1WR8AxDbN

7. Thomas Alan Says:
   August 29th, 2011 at 11:51 am

   That’s all pretty thin.

8. asparagus Says:
   August 29th, 2011 at 11:53 am

   The tea party needs to get its story right. One day they are saying they can never vote for Mitt. The next day they are saying they are so open-minded but Mitt just won’t pay them any attention. Boo hoo!

9. Chris Lars Says:
   August 29th, 2011 at 11:54 am

   Some years ago I heard from high inside the Rove circle, that Alex Castellanos was one of Rove’s preferred campaign media producers/strategists, his most preferred actually. During the W years, Rove had almost total influence over the fate of major GOP campaign consultants—who was on the preferred list and who was not, etc. The fact that Castellanos was working for an independent candidate challenging the incumbent Republican governor of Texas suggest to me that is was another move in the protracted Rove vs Perry game than any kind of direct Perry vs Romney thing.

10. Matt "MWS" Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:02 pm

    Isn’t there eventually bad blood between Romney and everyone who runs for President?

11. Greg Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:10 pm

    6. The tea Party is seen unfavorable by 77% of the country. Why align yourself with them if you want to be Presaident of the United States?

12. Greg Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:12 pm

    http://www.csmonitor.com/Books/chapter-and-verse/2011/0817/Another-Rick-Perry-book

    A couple of books about Rick Perry will be hitting the newstands late this year and early next year. One of them is being writeen by the same author of Bush’s Brain, the best seller.

13. ogrepete Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:17 pm

    #10

    LOL – would be true if it weren’t.

    See Pawlenty, Timothy. No bad blood between Mitt and Tim that I know of.

14. Bachmann/Perry ’12 (Or reverse it!) Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:18 pm

    Matt,

    Hmmm.. Good point.

15. Matt Y. Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:19 pm

    MWS:

    Isn’t there eventually rumored bad blood between Romney and everyone virtually anyone who runs for President?

    Fixed.

16. Jerald Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    #10 Matt

    I just new you would rise to the bait…

17. Jerald Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    “knew”

18. teledude Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:20 pm

    I like this!

    Let’s you and him fight!

19. Bachmann/Perry ’12 (Or reverse it!) Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:21 pm

    The libs are writing books about Perry? Well there you go, Rombots — All your future talking points from the DNC & Associates.

20. Jerald Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:22 pm

    Telly, Palin and Bachmann double teaming on Perry would be much more entertaining…

21. Jerald Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:24 pm

    #19…Craig for XXXX

    If anyone would know where to dig up liberal talking points to use on a Republican, it would be you…

22. Greg Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    19. On of the chapters is going to address gardasil. It says that after 7 years of doing nothing to advance health care for women in Texas, Perry suddenly issued a mandate for Gardasil without consulting or alerting anybody in the Texas congress. It’s going to talk about the motives, the millions of dollars that his chief of staff would have made, it’s going to talk about how Merck had been spurned buy other states and why, etc. Should be interesting…

23. Mark in PA Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:31 pm

    Before this post, I was under the impression that Mitt was all business, and Rick took things personally way too often (cronyism and such).

    This story definitely fits that mold.

    So whether it’s true or not, it hits close enough to the mark that it’s highly believable.

24. Watchinitall Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:32 pm

    Perry sure seems like the Churchified, Southern-accented version of Rod Blagoyevich.

25. Mark in PA Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:34 pm

    19
    Ya know Craig… what are you going to say when Bachmann and Perry start going for each others throats? Or is Bachmann supposed to just sit back while Perry takes all her votes away? She’s already shown that she can hit and hit back pretty hard. Look for her and the second tier guys to give it Perry much sooner than Mitt will.

26. Massachusetts Conservative Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:39 pm

    25

    LOL!

    I can’t WAIT for that!

    This will be Craig’s name: “Perry vs. Bachmann… DAMN IT!!!”

27. Thomas Alan Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:43 pm

    25:

    Honestly, I think Bachmann is relieved she doesn’t have to go through with this. She has to know that she’s nowhere near ready to be president. My guess is that she lays off Perry and, if she’s feeling mischievous, maybe attack Mitt for the fun of it.

28. Bachmann/Perry ’12 (Or reverse it!) Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    27.

    BINGO!

29. Bachmann/Perry ’12 (Or reverse it!) Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:49 pm

    ..except for the no way qualified part, of course 9)

30. Bachmann/Perry ’12 (Or reverse it!) Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:51 pm

    Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s entry may end Romney’s easy ride. Perry already has gone after Romney, observing: “I think Mitt is finally recognizing that the Massachusetts healthcare plan that he passed is a huge problem for him, and yeah, it was not almost perfect.” This is likely only the first of many hits.

    “ObamneyCare” was not a revolutionary attempt to overturn the status quo. Rather, the usual special interests did quite well. The American Prospect’s Robert Kuttner observed: “In Massachusetts, Romney needed and got buy-in from the powerful hospital, insurance, and corporate lobbies. To win that support, he could not fundamentally change the way they did business. Instead, private insurance companies got more customers thanks to the individual mandate, hospitals kept their beds full, and corporations that failed to insure employees paid only a token penalty of $295 per worker.”

    Romney’s legislation sought to extend insurance coverage. About 95% to 96% — the state claims 98.1%, but the actual rate appears to be lower — of Massachusetts residents now are insured. That is a genuine achievement but still not universal coverage. Moreover, as Peter Suderman of Reason observed, “the state’s insurance coverage rates were already unusually high to begin with: About 90% of the state’s population had health coverage prior to the law’s passage.” In short, Gov. Romney’s accomplishment actually was rather modest.

    Moreover, at what cost? Defenders of RomneyCare argue that its goal was to expand coverage, not to cut expenditures, but Gov. Romney was not alone in promising “affordable” health care. Anyway, the legislation certainly was not supposed to drive costs skyward.

    However, paying for more benefits for more people inevitably makes medicine more expensive. Costs for Commonwealth Care, the Massachusetts government’s subsidized insurance program alone are up a fifth over initial projections. Last year State Treasurer Timothy P. Cahill wrote: “The universal insurance coverage we adopted in 2006 was projected to cost taxpayers $88 million a year. However, since this program was adopted in 2006, our health-care costs have in total exceeded $4 billion. The cost of Massachusetts’ plan has blown a hole in the Commonwealth’s budget.”

    State finances have not collapsed only because RomneyCare spread the costs widely, forcing virtually everyone in and out of the state to share the pain. Cahill cited federal subsidies as keeping the state afloat financially. Indeed, a June study from the Beacon Hill Institute concluded that “The state has been able to shift the majority of the costs to the federal government.” The Institute pointed to higher costs of $8.6 billion since the law was implemented. Just $414 million was paid by Massachusetts. Medicaid (federal payments) covered $2.4 billion. Medicare took care of $1.4 billion.

    But even more costs, $4.3 billion, have been imposed on the private sector—employers, insurers, and residents. This estimate is in line with an earlier study by the Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation, which figured that 60% of the new costs fell on individuals and businesses.

    As expenses have risen, so have premiums. Noted Kuttner, “because serious cost containment was not part of the original package, premium costs in the commonwealth have risen far faster than nationally—by 10.3%, the most recent year available.” Economists John F. Cogan, Glenn Hubbard, and Daniel Kessler figured that RomneyCare inflated premiums by 6% from 2006 to 2008. This at a time where the state-subsidized Commonwealth Care was displacing private insurance for many people, thereby reducing demand, which should have reduced cost pressures.

    Unfortunately, noted the Beacon Hill Institute, “private companies have no choice but to pass the higher costs onto the insured. Some of these costs fall in the double-digit range.” That naturally displeased public officials, since it undercut their claim to have solved Massachusetts’ health care problems.

    Read more at

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/2011/08/29/can-mitt-romney-escape-his-romneycare-albatross/2/

31. Bobinator Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:54 pm

    If any of this is true, what we will see based on my observation is Mitt being cool and focused and Perry shooting from the hip, getting personal and getting a mouthful of foot.

32. Thunder (Any body but Perry) Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 12:59 pm

    August 29, 2011

    Bonus Quote of Day
    “My brain is like a chicken pot pie. His is like a refrigerator that is all very organized — pickles here, salad there.”

    – Rick Perry, quoted by Politico, comparing himself to Karl Rove in 1994.

33. jaxemer11 Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 1:08 pm

    Sounds like another off the handle cry baby whining about how Mitt is better than him. There isn’t any evidence there at all that Mitt has anything against Perry. The hate for Romney is about envy, and nothing else.

34. Mark in PA Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 1:33 pm

    27
    Tell TPAW that.

    She has shown that she wants it, and is far from “relieved” to have Perry taking away her path to the nomination.

35. Bachmann/Perry ’12 (Or reverse it!) Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 1:36 pm

    Perry in 1st place by double digits is now envious of Romney’s 2nd place in the new polls?

36. jaxemer11 Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 1:39 pm

    35 – You aren’t that stupid. You should really make an attempt to not come off as an idiot all the time.

37. Bachmann/Perry ’12 (Or reverse it!) Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 1:42 pm

    Michele wants on Perry’s ticket. And they both hate Obamneycare. If Romney has something to say to Perry at the upcoming debates, he better say it himself — or risk going not just double digits behind but 20 plus behind by October.

    Don’t expect Perry for a second to hold back on Romney, liberals, and Massachusetts.

38. Bachmann/Perry ’12 (Or reverse it!) Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 1:44 pm

    “Stupid” “Idiot”

    Jax,

    Why are you still acting like you’re in junior high?

39. jaxemer11 Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 1:50 pm

    38 – When you start using your brain, I’ll start talking to you like an adult.

40. OHIO JOE Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 2:22 pm

    Well, despite not knowing the behind the scenes details of this case, ironically, it looks like Mr. Romney is the one with character in this case. Mr. Perry looks petty for trying to get this guy fired.

41. thetruth Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 2:36 pm

    lets see how Perry holds up as the “leader” even with FOX and Radio stroking him

42. Watchinitall Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 3:08 pm

    In Illinois Gov Blagoyevich got in huge trouble for his “pay to play” way of doing business. He expected and lobbied for quid pro quos with his appointments. I’m having a hard time ethically distinguishing between the Blagoyevich model and the Perry model.

    I’m not thinking it’s just me on this, but if someone wants to jump to Perry’s defense and explain the difference to me, I’d be interested to hear a defender explain to me why Blago is a crook and Perry’s a Boy Scout.

43. Liz Says:
    August 29th, 2011 at 10:52 pm

    Huh? SO….what was the problem? What did the blowout consist of, Perry belching in the general direction of Massachusetts and Romney refusing to watch Westerns anymore? This is dumb.

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