NewsMax reports that the July 10th Las Vegas, Nevada debate cosponsored by The Daily Caller, Americans For Tax Reform, and YouTube, has been postponed in case some big names, particularly Rick Perry, will jump into the race this coming month.
I’m still torn on Perry. I want to see what he’s got, whether I think he can beat Obama. If so, then come on in. On the other hand, would he be viewed by unaffiliated voters as “W” part two.
Perry if he runs will be a non factor, just like Pawlenty is…. but go ahead, find a away to split the anti-Romney vote more, I will be happy to see it.
Rick will jump into the kiddie pool if he figures there are no other adults present to serve as a full-grown ABM candidate (Anyone But Mittens).
I will welcome such a move as a selfless act to save the party, the country, and the known parts of the free world from what damage a Romney nomination could wreak.
The last bit of news that I remember seeing was that the only person to have agreed so far to participate was Hermann Cain. If he was the only double-digit candidate to sign up for their debate, I can understand why they are “waiting for Rick Perry”.
Rick will jump into the kiddie pool if he figures there are no other adults present to serve as a full-grown ABM candidate (Anyone But Mittens).
I will welcome such a move as a selfless act to save the party, the country, and the known parts of the free world from what damage a Romney nomination could wreak
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So you would prefer the same guy who was at one Time Al Gores campaign manager in Texas and who only switch sides when he found you could not win State wide election as a Democrat. Talk about your RINO..
My LIST O FACTS has grown quite a bit Perry. This guy makes Mike Huckabee’s past look angelic.
#1 Rick Perry is a “big government” politician. When Rick Perry became the governor of Texas in 2000, the total spending by the Texas state government was approximately $49 billion. Ten years later it was approximately $90 billion. That is not exactly reducing the size of government.
#2 The debt of the state of Texas is out of control. According to usdebtclock.org, the debt to GDP ratio in Texas is 22.9% and the debt per citizen is $10,645. In California (a total financial basket case), the debt to GDP ratio is just 18.7% and the debt per citizen is only $9932. If Rick Perry runs for president these are numbers he will want to keep well hidden.
#3 The total debt of the Texas government has more than doubled since Rick Perry became governor. So what would the U.S. national debt look like after four (or eight) years of Rick Perry?
#4 Rick Perry has spearheaded the effort to lease roads in Texas to foreign companies, to turn roads that are already free to drive on into toll roads, and to develop the Trans-Texas Corridor which would be part of the planned NAFTA superhighway system. If you really do deep research on this whole Trans-Texas Corridor nonsense you will see why no American should ever cast a single vote for Rick Perry.
#5 Rick Perry claims that he has a “track record” of not raising taxes. That is a false claim. Rick Perry has repeatedly raised taxes and fees while he has been governor. Today, Texans are faced with significantly higher taxes and fees than they were before Rick Perry was elected.
#6 Even with the oil boom in Texas, 23 states have a lower unemployment rate than Texas does.
#7 In 1984, Perry was elected to the Texas House of Representatives as a Democrat from a district (64) that included his home county of Haskell.
#8 Back in 1988, Rick Perry supported Al Gore for president. In fact, Rick Perry actually served as Al Gore’s campaign chairman in the state of Texas that year.
#9 Between December 2007 and April 2011, weekly wages in the U.S. increased by about 5 percent. In the state of Texas they increased by just 0.6% over that same time period.
#10 Texas now has one of the worst education systems in the nation. The following is from an opinion piece that was actually authored by Barbara Bush earlier this year….
* We rank 36th in the nation in high school graduation rates. An estimated 3.8 million Texans do not have a high school diploma.
* We rank 49th in verbal SAT scores, 47th in literacy and 46th in average math SAT scores.
* We rank 33rd in the nation on teacher salaries.
#11 Rick Perry attended the Bilderberg Group meetings in 2007. Associating himself with that organization should be a red flag for all American voters.
#12 Texas has the highest percentage of workers making minimum wage out of all 50 states.
#13 Rick Perry often gives speeches about illegal immigration, but when you look at the facts, he has been incredibly soft on the issue. If Rick Perry does not plan to secure the border, then he should not be president because illegal immigration is absolutely devastating many areas of the southwest United States.
#14 In 2007, 221,000 residents of Texas were making minimum wage or less. By 2010, that number had risen to 550,000.
#15 Rick Perry actually issued an executive order in 2007 that would have forced almost every single girl in the state of Texas to receive the Gardasil vaccine before entering the sixth grade. Perry would have put parents in a position where they would have had to fill out an application and beg the government not to inject their child with a highly controversial vaccine. Since then, very serious safety issues regarding this vaccine have come to light. Fortunately, lawmakers in Texas blocked what Perry was trying to do. According to Wikipedia, many were troubled when “apparent financial connections between Merck and Perry were reported by news outlets, such as a $6,000 campaign contribution and Merck’s hiring of former Perry Chief of Staff Mike Toomey to handle its Texas lobbying work.”
#16 In 2008, Rick Perry stood beside Child Protective Services in Constitutional violation during the invasion and mass kidnapping of 464 FLDS children from their community in Eldorado, Texas. Perry spokeswoman Krista Piferrer said the governor retained full confidence in the agency, noting that “The governor is very proud of the work being done by CPS…CPS has handled a very complex situation both professionally and compassionately.” The 3rd Court of Appeals in Austin ruled that Texas child welfare authorities acted improperly and the children were returned to their parents. The governor ended up squandering 12.4 million of public money on the operation.
#17 Perry supported and still supports Open Borders with Mexico
#18 In 2001 Rick Perry signed the Dream Act into law allowing illegal immigrants in-state tuition. This is the blueprint for Obama’s own similar Federal Dream Act.
#19 In 2004, Perry allowed the execution of an innocent man, Cameron Willingham, and then impeded an investigation into the whole matter, including firing and replacing three members of the Texas Forensic Science Commission.
#20 Perry has called the 16th and 17th Amendments to the Constitution ” mistaken “. The 16th Amendment is the income tax amendment accounting for 45 % of all tax receipts. The 17th Amendment allows for direct election of U.S Senators, taking that right away from government.
#21 Texas is the leading polluter among states in the union, leading the nation on carbon dioxide emissions, but when the state was sued by the EPA for not meeting clean air standards, Perry sued the federal government. He also is a global warming critic who called the 2010 BP oil spill an ” act of God .”
#22 One in four children in Texas live below the poverty line. Perry cut $ 10 billion out of child support services even though Texas has a $ 8.2 Billion rainy day fund.
#23 Perry said that Texas might have to secede from the Union
#4 Thank heavens you aren’t given to catastrophizing and hyperbole. The consequences of catastrophizing and hyperbole are, well, rhetoric!
And nothing gets better with rhetoric, as we all know. Including this site, which is, after all, almost completely about rhetoric.
So there you go. Go Romney!
(This makes me either an establishment type, or an anarchist . . . if defined by your profound and illogical fearmongering, but at least I’m not a Libertarian.)
6. I’d prefer a plausible convert to conservatism to the dude who once gratuitously turfed Reagan under the bus not long after the Gipper was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s.
MG, I’m picturing “Primal Scream”, maybe a little “Guernica”. Even though it’s art, we’re still talking gross distortions, right?
A Republican novice running against Ted Kennedy in a liberal state is going to 1. Make mistakes, err on the side of winning, and 2. Develop a small pile of statements that Mississippi Republicans are going to cringe reading.
So, do we Picasso the guy so that the fella standing in front of us is a farcical and toxic blend of myopic revisionistic rear-mirror focus and contextless cut and snip quotation pasting?
Or do we weigh and balance and observe and the full spectrum of events, statements, action, in context, eye to the future, and get as clear-eyed view as possible?
(I’m still thinking about what a lousy anarchist I am and chuckling!)
10. I suppose there are quite a few Republicans around for whom Romney is a double heretic, eh? Not only is he a —- , but he also once said he wasn’t a Reagan Republican!
If a Texas-style Republican ran for the US Senate in Mass against Kennedy in the 90′s, would he/she ever have come with 3 pts of winning? Would you be the kind of Republican who prefers a very narrowly constructed Party, zealous, angry, small, obnoxious, but pure?
“So, do we Picasso the guy so that the fella standing in front of us is a farcical and toxic blend of myopic revisionistic rear-mirror focus and contextless cut and snip quotation pasting?”
“If a Texas-style Republican ran for the US Senate in Mass against Kennedy in the 90?s, would he/she ever have come with 3 pts of winning? Would you be the kind of Republican who prefers a very narrowly constructed Party, zealous, angry, small, obnoxious, but pure?”
Is Scott Brown the most we can hope for in MA?
Probably so.
Does that mean he’s conservative enough to be a good President?
I don’t think that whether the debate was going to be televised should have been a factor. Surely there must have been some web site willing and able to broadcast it live online. And I’m sure C-SPAN would have been willing to show it, at least on tape delay.
More likely the debate was cancelled because nobody except Herman Cain had confirmed participation.
I don’t mind it that Perry changed parties. I don’t mind that he liked Al Gore back when. The metamorphosis of the Democratic and Republican Parties was about mid point back then, and changing parties because the parties were changing wasn’t all that uncommon or uncommendable.
I don’t know Perry well enough to dislike him or adore him. Doesn’t look like Texans are overly gaga over the guy. Some odd quotes, don’t know the substance of the guy, not inclined to be negative just because he isn’t the horse I have in the race.
If someone beats Romney this time, it will be because they were the better candidate. And I’m fine with that. I’ll support the nominee.
Scott Brown is NOT the best we can hope for in MA.
Mitt is.
And Mitt SHOULD be president, because he has important qualities Scott Brown does not have. Mitt is a turnaround artist, an astonishingly successful job creator, and is very devout in his Mormon faith, which helps him embrace traditional values.
Mitt won in MA in 2002 in the aura of his Olympic success, combined with an extremely bad candidate for the Dems (Shannon O’Brien, who showed her tattoos on a televised debate and was very unlikeable).
You can’t have a debate with only one big name. Without Romney and Perry, no one was going to tune in. There’d be no news. Who was going to interrupt their evening to watch Cain debate Pawlenty and Huntsman?
You guy have never learned as last election you ignored Mitt and nominee McCain so you were the loser and this time you guy will do the same thing not respect Mitt leadership and try to find other instead Mitt for your second defeat,the American people really need Mitt leadership right now and they will stand with Mitt what ever you say,you attack,you critic and anti Mitt just for your own reason it is not the country reason so finally Mitt will be the nominee and will be the next president because enough is over enough,no more the president of food stamp in this great country,we need to go to work,we need a better lives,we the people don’t deserve a worse lives and we are very tired of stay home and waiting for Obama EBT cards and EDD pay checks week by week,month by month,it is too long to get it because we are so hungry,so poor now than 3 years ago ( where are your good paying jobs?,equal pay check? and returned jobs over sea Mr. Obama?)who is better than Mitt republican and more experienced than Mitt? no one. Mitt is the most Obama and democrat scare that means Mitt is the top,the #1 and the real deal,so please take the winner no more loser any more republican.
June 29th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Or it was done because Mitt isn’t attending.
Or because it was never going to be televised.
Or a combination of factors.
June 29th, 2011 at 12:11 pm
I’m still torn on Perry. I want to see what he’s got, whether I think he can beat Obama. If so, then come on in. On the other hand, would he be viewed by unaffiliated voters as “W” part two.
June 29th, 2011 at 12:13 pm
Perry if he runs will be a non factor, just like Pawlenty is…. but go ahead, find a away to split the anti-Romney vote more, I will be happy to see it.
June 29th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Rick will jump into the kiddie pool if he figures there are no other adults present to serve as a full-grown ABM candidate (Anyone But Mittens).
I will welcome such a move as a selfless act to save the party, the country, and the known parts of the free world from what damage a Romney nomination could wreak.
?D
June 29th, 2011 at 12:21 pm
The last bit of news that I remember seeing was that the only person to have agreed so far to participate was Hermann Cain. If he was the only double-digit candidate to sign up for their debate, I can understand why they are “waiting for Rick Perry”.
June 29th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
MarqueG Says:
June 29th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
Rick will jump into the kiddie pool if he figures there are no other adults present to serve as a full-grown ABM candidate (Anyone But Mittens).
I will welcome such a move as a selfless act to save the party, the country, and the known parts of the free world from what damage a Romney nomination could wreak
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So you would prefer the same guy who was at one Time Al Gores campaign manager in Texas and who only switch sides when he found you could not win State wide election as a Democrat. Talk about your RINO..
June 29th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
“Or it was done because Mitt isn’t attending.
Or because it was never going to be televised.”
Exactly.
June 29th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
My LIST O FACTS has grown quite a bit Perry. This guy makes Mike Huckabee’s past look angelic.
#1 Rick Perry is a “big government” politician. When Rick Perry became the governor of Texas in 2000, the total spending by the Texas state government was approximately $49 billion. Ten years later it was approximately $90 billion. That is not exactly reducing the size of government.
#2 The debt of the state of Texas is out of control. According to usdebtclock.org, the debt to GDP ratio in Texas is 22.9% and the debt per citizen is $10,645. In California (a total financial basket case), the debt to GDP ratio is just 18.7% and the debt per citizen is only $9932. If Rick Perry runs for president these are numbers he will want to keep well hidden.
#3 The total debt of the Texas government has more than doubled since Rick Perry became governor. So what would the U.S. national debt look like after four (or eight) years of Rick Perry?
#4 Rick Perry has spearheaded the effort to lease roads in Texas to foreign companies, to turn roads that are already free to drive on into toll roads, and to develop the Trans-Texas Corridor which would be part of the planned NAFTA superhighway system. If you really do deep research on this whole Trans-Texas Corridor nonsense you will see why no American should ever cast a single vote for Rick Perry.
#5 Rick Perry claims that he has a “track record” of not raising taxes. That is a false claim. Rick Perry has repeatedly raised taxes and fees while he has been governor. Today, Texans are faced with significantly higher taxes and fees than they were before Rick Perry was elected.
#6 Even with the oil boom in Texas, 23 states have a lower unemployment rate than Texas does.
#7 In 1984, Perry was elected to the Texas House of Representatives as a Democrat from a district (64) that included his home county of Haskell.
#8 Back in 1988, Rick Perry supported Al Gore for president. In fact, Rick Perry actually served as Al Gore’s campaign chairman in the state of Texas that year.
#9 Between December 2007 and April 2011, weekly wages in the U.S. increased by about 5 percent. In the state of Texas they increased by just 0.6% over that same time period.
#10 Texas now has one of the worst education systems in the nation. The following is from an opinion piece that was actually authored by Barbara Bush earlier this year….
* We rank 36th in the nation in high school graduation rates. An estimated 3.8 million Texans do not have a high school diploma.
* We rank 49th in verbal SAT scores, 47th in literacy and 46th in average math SAT scores.
* We rank 33rd in the nation on teacher salaries.
#11 Rick Perry attended the Bilderberg Group meetings in 2007. Associating himself with that organization should be a red flag for all American voters.
#12 Texas has the highest percentage of workers making minimum wage out of all 50 states.
#13 Rick Perry often gives speeches about illegal immigration, but when you look at the facts, he has been incredibly soft on the issue. If Rick Perry does not plan to secure the border, then he should not be president because illegal immigration is absolutely devastating many areas of the southwest United States.
#14 In 2007, 221,000 residents of Texas were making minimum wage or less. By 2010, that number had risen to 550,000.
#15 Rick Perry actually issued an executive order in 2007 that would have forced almost every single girl in the state of Texas to receive the Gardasil vaccine before entering the sixth grade. Perry would have put parents in a position where they would have had to fill out an application and beg the government not to inject their child with a highly controversial vaccine. Since then, very serious safety issues regarding this vaccine have come to light. Fortunately, lawmakers in Texas blocked what Perry was trying to do. According to Wikipedia, many were troubled when “apparent financial connections between Merck and Perry were reported by news outlets, such as a $6,000 campaign contribution and Merck’s hiring of former Perry Chief of Staff Mike Toomey to handle its Texas lobbying work.”
#16 In 2008, Rick Perry stood beside Child Protective Services in Constitutional violation during the invasion and mass kidnapping of 464 FLDS children from their community in Eldorado, Texas. Perry spokeswoman Krista Piferrer said the governor retained full confidence in the agency, noting that “The governor is very proud of the work being done by CPS…CPS has handled a very complex situation both professionally and compassionately.” The 3rd Court of Appeals in Austin ruled that Texas child welfare authorities acted improperly and the children were returned to their parents. The governor ended up squandering 12.4 million of public money on the operation.
#17 Perry supported and still supports Open Borders with Mexico
#18 In 2001 Rick Perry signed the Dream Act into law allowing illegal immigrants in-state tuition. This is the blueprint for Obama’s own similar Federal Dream Act.
#19 In 2004, Perry allowed the execution of an innocent man, Cameron Willingham, and then impeded an investigation into the whole matter, including firing and replacing three members of the Texas Forensic Science Commission.
#20 Perry has called the 16th and 17th Amendments to the Constitution ” mistaken “. The 16th Amendment is the income tax amendment accounting for 45 % of all tax receipts. The 17th Amendment allows for direct election of U.S Senators, taking that right away from government.
#21 Texas is the leading polluter among states in the union, leading the nation on carbon dioxide emissions, but when the state was sued by the EPA for not meeting clean air standards, Perry sued the federal government. He also is a global warming critic who called the 2010 BP oil spill an ” act of God .”
#22 One in four children in Texas live below the poverty line. Perry cut $ 10 billion out of child support services even though Texas has a $ 8.2 Billion rainy day fund.
#23 Perry said that Texas might have to secede from the Union
#24 Perry calls himself a “Prophet”.
June 29th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
#4 Thank heavens you aren’t given to catastrophizing and hyperbole. The consequences of catastrophizing and hyperbole are, well, rhetoric!
And nothing gets better with rhetoric, as we all know. Including this site, which is, after all, almost completely about rhetoric.
So there you go. Go Romney!
(This makes me either an establishment type, or an anarchist . . . if defined by your profound and illogical fearmongering, but at least I’m not a Libertarian.)
June 29th, 2011 at 12:37 pm
6. I’d prefer a plausible convert to conservatism to the dude who once gratuitously turfed Reagan under the bus not long after the Gipper was diagnosed with Alzheimer’s.
June 29th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
9. I’m the picture of modesty and understatement. It may be that the picture shows slight hints of Cubism or Dada, but still.
June 29th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Rick Perry and Sarah Palin loses to Obama by 2 points in Texas.
Mitt Romney and Ron Paul win by 8 and 5 points.
43% approve Perry
52% disapprove
30% approve Paul
46% disapprove
June 29th, 2011 at 1:00 pm
MG, I’m picturing “Primal Scream”, maybe a little “Guernica”. Even though it’s art, we’re still talking gross distortions, right?
A Republican novice running against Ted Kennedy in a liberal state is going to 1. Make mistakes, err on the side of winning, and 2. Develop a small pile of statements that Mississippi Republicans are going to cringe reading.
So, do we Picasso the guy so that the fella standing in front of us is a farcical and toxic blend of myopic revisionistic rear-mirror focus and contextless cut and snip quotation pasting?
Or do we weigh and balance and observe and the full spectrum of events, statements, action, in context, eye to the future, and get as clear-eyed view as possible?
(I’m still thinking about what a lousy anarchist I am and chuckling!)
June 29th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
10. I suppose there are quite a few Republicans around for whom Romney is a double heretic, eh? Not only is he a —- , but he also once said he wasn’t a Reagan Republican!
If a Texas-style Republican ran for the US Senate in Mass against Kennedy in the 90′s, would he/she ever have come with 3 pts of winning? Would you be the kind of Republican who prefers a very narrowly constructed Party, zealous, angry, small, obnoxious, but pure?
Just asking.
June 29th, 2011 at 1:21 pm
Watch,
“So, do we Picasso the guy so that the fella standing in front of us is a farcical and toxic blend of myopic revisionistic rear-mirror focus and contextless cut and snip quotation pasting?”
Yes!
June 29th, 2011 at 1:22 pm
Watch,
“If a Texas-style Republican ran for the US Senate in Mass against Kennedy in the 90?s, would he/she ever have come with 3 pts of winning? Would you be the kind of Republican who prefers a very narrowly constructed Party, zealous, angry, small, obnoxious, but pure?”
Is Scott Brown the most we can hope for in MA?
Probably so.
Does that mean he’s conservative enough to be a good President?
No.
June 29th, 2011 at 1:27 pm
I don’t think that whether the debate was going to be televised should have been a factor. Surely there must have been some web site willing and able to broadcast it live online. And I’m sure C-SPAN would have been willing to show it, at least on tape delay.
More likely the debate was cancelled because nobody except Herman Cain had confirmed participation.
June 29th, 2011 at 1:30 pm
I don’t mind it that Perry changed parties. I don’t mind that he liked Al Gore back when. The metamorphosis of the Democratic and Republican Parties was about mid point back then, and changing parties because the parties were changing wasn’t all that uncommon or uncommendable.
I don’t know Perry well enough to dislike him or adore him. Doesn’t look like Texans are overly gaga over the guy. Some odd quotes, don’t know the substance of the guy, not inclined to be negative just because he isn’t the horse I have in the race.
If someone beats Romney this time, it will be because they were the better candidate. And I’m fine with that. I’ll support the nominee.
June 29th, 2011 at 1:35 pm
16
Scott Brown is NOT the best we can hope for in MA.
Mitt is.
And Mitt SHOULD be president, because he has important qualities Scott Brown does not have. Mitt is a turnaround artist, an astonishingly successful job creator, and is very devout in his Mormon faith, which helps him embrace traditional values.
Mitt won in MA in 2002 in the aura of his Olympic success, combined with an extremely bad candidate for the Dems (Shannon O’Brien, who showed her tattoos on a televised debate and was very unlikeable).
June 29th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
15. Okay, but don’t do it artlessly, and be open about it. Maybe a disclaimer or something:
“This is not analysis, this is snark.”
Or in your case, MWS will do.
June 29th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
Watch,
“Or in your case, MWS will do.”
Touche!
But I thought everyone knew my name is a built in disclaimer?
June 29th, 2011 at 2:40 pm
You can’t have a debate with only one big name. Without Romney and Perry, no one was going to tune in. There’d be no news. Who was going to interrupt their evening to watch Cain debate Pawlenty and Huntsman?
June 29th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
…..but more importantly, when is my snark ever artless????
June 29th, 2011 at 2:41 pm
MWS stands for Made With Snark.
June 29th, 2011 at 2:45 pm
MWS stands for “misguided, worthless, and senile”
Nah, just kidding.
June 29th, 2011 at 2:52 pm
MassCon,
I won’t be senile for another 30 years, at least…….
June 29th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
MWS, you are the artful snarker. Setting the standard, keeping the faith, monitoring the overreaching. I salute you.
June 29th, 2011 at 3:41 pm
The debates are now meaningless without the big 2 Romney & Perry.
June 29th, 2011 at 4:39 pm
28.Why does everyone keep spelling her name wrong?
It’s:
P-A-L-I-N
not
P-E-R-R-Y
Wake up people!
June 29th, 2011 at 6:19 pm
Hmm. It’s an appealing thought, but then I’d get lonely and be reduced to annoying only myself.
June 29th, 2011 at 8:54 pm
You guy have never learned as last election you ignored Mitt and nominee McCain so you were the loser and this time you guy will do the same thing not respect Mitt leadership and try to find other instead Mitt for your second defeat,the American people really need Mitt leadership right now and they will stand with Mitt what ever you say,you attack,you critic and anti Mitt just for your own reason it is not the country reason so finally Mitt will be the nominee and will be the next president because enough is over enough,no more the president of food stamp in this great country,we need to go to work,we need a better lives,we the people don’t deserve a worse lives and we are very tired of stay home and waiting for Obama EBT cards and EDD pay checks week by week,month by month,it is too long to get it because we are so hungry,so poor now than 3 years ago ( where are your good paying jobs?,equal pay check? and returned jobs over sea Mr. Obama?)who is better than Mitt republican and more experienced than Mitt? no one. Mitt is the most Obama and democrat scare that means Mitt is the top,the #1 and the real deal,so please take the winner no more loser any more republican.
June 29th, 2011 at 9:59 pm
Can someone ban TotalConservative? Read the LANGUAGE in post #31.
Kavon?
June 29th, 2011 at 10:19 pm
MassCon,
TotalConservative has been banned.
June 29th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
33
Then why does he have a post on the newest thread, at 10:32 pm, after you said he was banned?
June 29th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
Never mind. That is Texas Conservative. Lol.