Maggie Haberman, of Politico, reports that Sarah Palin’s associates have begun making overtures to influential Iowa Republicans:
Sarah Palin’s camp is reaching out to activists and operatives in Iowa about setting up meetings while she’s in the state Tuesday for the screening of a documentary about her — including with Chuck Laudner, a former Iowa GOP executive director and prominent conservative.
Laudner confirmed to POLITICO he’d gotten a call from a Palin backer either Friday or during the weekend asking about meeting with him while she’s in Pella for the screening of “The Undefeated.” Laudner later clarified that Palin’s team was talking about a group of people attending a post-film mingling session, and not one-on-one get-togethers. He said they reached out to tell him he was on the list for that.
If Gov. Palin decides to end her kabuki dance and finally enter the race, I, for one, eagerly anticipate seeing whether the argument espoused by so many Palinistas – that she’ll at last find the ability to drastically reshape her standing among the American public, and the race will change – has any basis in reality.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:14 pm
The last 2 sentences of the blockquote are KEY. It says the meetings are not “meetings” but just meet-and-greets and mingling after the film debut.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:15 pm
“I, for one, eagerly anticipate seeing whether the argument espoused by so many Palinistas – that she’ll at last find the ability to drastically reshape her standing among the American public, and the race will change – has any basis in reality.”
Amen, brotha
June 27th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
“Team Palin Wooing Iowa Activists…..”
……and FoxNews- which forced decisions out of Santorum, Gingrich, and Huckabee says…………….
June 27th, 2011 at 9:31 pm
…….she’s not running.
June 27th, 2011 at 9:46 pm
There is now an opening for Palin.
Do not underestimate the John Wayne flop of Bachmann’s today. My buddy (TPAW TORCH who lives in Urbandale) called me an hour ago and told me people were joking about Bachmann at the restaurant he owns….not a good sign…many people laughing. My buddy then gave me an example that I could understand on how damaging this was for Bachmann as she trys to cement her authenticity to the Iowa voters. My buddy asked me how Minnesotan’s would think of a politicain, while campaigning in Minnesota and bragging about being born in Maple Lake MN, and then saying that he/she has the same spirit as Maple Lake’s own Bob Dylan?
I thought about that example…hhhuuuummmm..everybody knows that Bob Dylan grew up in Hibbing…..everybody in Minnesota knows that…..EVERYBODY!!!
If someone who tried to pass themself off as a Minnesotan got this wrong…..well……the credibilty of this person would be gone.
At first blush it does seem trivial….but this gaffe damages what Bachmann was trying to establish…credibilty…athenticity.
My buddy said that it’s a easy joke for people to laugh at…..Bachmann is being laughed at now…
I think this little gaffe maybe bigger then we all think.
There is room for Palin.
There is room for Palin in Iowa.
Yep.
Just don’t get in the way of TPAW.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:05 pm
Simple question:
When Sarah Palin declares at her good own time,
what will all the morons say?
The same cretins who will on her presidential inauguration still scream:
“But,but,but she wasn’t supposed to run!
It aaaaaaaaaain’t faaaaaaaaaaaair!”
June 27th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
*I thought John Wayne Gacy was awesome in “True Grit”!*
That is just one example of the many Bachmann’s jokes in Iowa this evening.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:06 pm
I would like to see Palin get in, only so we can see once and for all if she has what it takes to go the distance.
Would be interesting…
June 27th, 2011 at 10:17 pm
Tomorrow is the World Premier of “The Undefeated” in the Opera House in
Pella Iowa,followed by Sarah-Palooza festivities.
Did I say it’s happening in Iowa?
After Iowa the film will debut in
N.Hampshire
S.Carolina
Nevada
To all the PDS sufferers and morons:
Are you getting the hint or you’re still blind and stupid?
June 27th, 2011 at 10:31 pm
Tex, what most of us morons will do is watch very closely to see if the trajectory of Sarah’s political stock turns around, flattens out like a cow pie, or continues to drop like a rock.
I predict Sarah will “rock”.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:32 pm
“When Sarah Palin declares at her good own time, what will all the morons say?”
Not sure about the other morons, but if it happens I’ll say, “Big mistake, Sarah, I had hoped you were smart enough not to do that.”
Pretty much the same reaction I had when Gingrich announced.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:33 pm
BH, nice to read something from you again. Hope all is well with you.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:43 pm
I just can’t stop smilin’
June 27th, 2011 at 10:49 pm
http://www.beaconhill.org/BHIStudies/HCR-2011/PR-HealthCareReform2011-0627.htm
Geeeez…another report just released on how bad Romneycare is…what a surprise.
Specifically, the Institute found that:
* State health has risen by $414 million over the period;
* Private health insurance costs have risen by $4.311 billion over the period;
* The federal government has spent an additional $2.418 billion on Medicaid for Massachusetts;
* Over this period, Medicare expenditures increased by $1.426 billion;
* For a total cumulative cost of $8.569 billion over the period.
“Our estimates take into account the fact that Health Care Reform came on top of an underlying pattern of rising health care costs,” said David G. Tuerck, Executive Director of the Institute and a co-author of the study. “What we find is that the law caused costs to rise even faster than they would have in its absence.”
Tuerck further predicted that the federal Affordable Health Care Act, which was closely modeled after the Massachusetts law, will also force costs to rise rather than fall.
“Massachusetts voters were sold Health Care Reform as a device for controlling costs. What it turned out to be was a costly new entitlement, the bill for which was passed on to the federal government and to Massachusetts insurance companies, hospitals and rate payers. The question now is just who will pick up the tab for Obamacare.”
“The promise of expanded coverage at lower costs contradicts basic economic theory,” says co-author Paul Bachman. “By increasing demand for health care services without an equal increase in their supply, Health Care Reform in Massachusetts all but guaranteed that the price of health care services and health insurance would increase.”
I guess the ROMBOTS will say htis is just another hit piece on Romney.
What a disaster Mitt romney was as Governor of Massachusetts for signing ths bill.
No thank you. on you becoming President, Mitt.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:51 pm
Read this statement a thousand times ROMBOTS until you understand it.
Read below…learn somthing.
“The promise of expanded coverage at lower costs contradicts basic economic theory,” says co-author Paul Bachman. “By increasing demand for health care services without an equal increase in their supply, Health Care Reform in Massachusetts all but guaranteed that the price of health care services and health insurance would increase.”
June 27th, 2011 at 10:52 pm
If Sarah runs, this moron will scratch his beard and say, “Pass the popcorn!”
Then I’ll await Palin’s squishy flip flop on capping carbon emissions and man made global warming.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:55 pm
Smack,
#15 should be a no brainer. During the ObamaCare debate (and this point holds true for RomneyCare), I said repeatedly that when you bring more people into the all-you-can-eat buffet that is modern health insurance, you’re going to drive demand (cost) up.
The only way to really control cost under a RomneyObamaCare model is government rationing.
June 27th, 2011 at 10:58 pm
Wow….20% of Romneycare has been funded by the fedral government……..me…in Minnesota..to prop up this boondoggle.
What a joke.
http://www.beaconhill.org/BHIStudies/HCR-2011/BHIMassHealthCareReform2011-0627.pdf
Perhaps most importantly, according to the Massachusetts Taxpayers Foundation, only
20% of reform’s costs actually accrued to the Commonwealth of Massachusetts. federal government paid for another 20%.
The vast majority of new spending on
health care affects private individuals and businesses, whose increased spending on
health care makes up 60% of the total
June 27th, 2011 at 11:12 pm
Bob,
Don’t pat yourself on the back because of money scamer Gingrich.
Anybody with IQ higher than room temp. knew that “Calista and I”
were after money and higher speaker fees.
Sarah Palin is a force of nature,The Conservative Leader of America.
Seat back and whatch the most talented poltician in America with the
best political instinct clobber the competition and then mop the floor with Obama.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:13 pm
TEX,
Did your mother hold you when you were little?
June 27th, 2011 at 11:20 pm
TEX,
I ask because you seem to have this almost neurotic hang up with Sarah. I mean, you seem to be a mostly coherent person, and you’re probably fairly normal in all other aspects of your life, by French standards.
…. But when it comes to Palin, you have these weird fantasies, like she’s a comic book heroine. You don’t even describe her like a person most of the time. She’s either a “force of nature” or a “tsunami” or an “arctic fox” or any other various arctic or woodland creature.
Do you even think of Palin as a person? I mean, do you think she brushes her teetch, pees in a toilet, gets headaches, sometimes spills her coffee, makes love to her husband, cheats on a crossword puzzle….. you know, human stuff?
June 27th, 2011 at 11:22 pm
I get to meet her tomorrow.
I’ll let you guys know how human she is.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:24 pm
Big blunder for Bachmann… Here in the OC there’s a major airport named after John Wayne and he just lived here….I mean everything the guy touched is enshrined.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:25 pm
Telly,
Try to get a picture of the two of you!
And do let TEX know that she’s human.
….but break it to him gently. You might recall how you felt when you found out that Santa Claus, the Toothfairy, or Barry Bonds isn’t real.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:31 pm
Here are the approval ratings of GOP contenders among Republicans according to the most recent survey by the Associated Press-Gfk:
Palin–63%
Romney–61%
Bachmann–54%
Pawlenty–43%
Gingrich–43%
Huntsman–23%
June 27th, 2011 at 11:33 pm
and see this, lol!
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/splashy-sarah-palin-movie-premiere-206081
June 27th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
14, 15 ad nauseum: The argument you are making, and it’s hard to believe you aren’t factoring this in, is that America is better off if health care is only available to those with insurance who have paid for it themselves. Ever taken a moment to figure out what that would actually mean?
The Federal Government under Bush was eager to support the Mass plan because there was some reasonable hope that universal coverage would actually lead to some modest cost reductions. Yes, the number of people accessing care would rise, and yes, this would lead to short term increases in cost. But accessing routine and maintenance care would be cheaper in the long run, leading to lower overall costs, and much better baseline health. If cost is the absolute and only consideration, a shapshot in time makes you a healthcare expert.
You don’t seem interested in any of this. Taking down Romney is your interest. That’s fine, but the rationing that is happening in the immediate situation is the scope and breadth needed to better weigh and balance cause/effect, and cost/benefit. There you are guilty of rationing with a vengence.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
pees in a toilet
Toilet?! Well, excuse me, city boy. Not all of us are accustomed to such extravagancies and overt displays of wealth.
As for Palin, I still don’t think she’ll jump in the race. I was right about Daniels and Huckabee, which means I’m most likely dead wrong on this one. Either way, it’ll be fun!
June 27th, 2011 at 11:38 pm
Thanks Jack!
That article says Andrew Breitbart will be there tomorrow too!
The guy’s my new hero.
His take down of Weiner while playing the media for fools was brilliant.
Unflippinbelievable!
June 27th, 2011 at 11:44 pm
#15 smack
Paul Bachmann ought to stick to writing grants for free Government money. Besides if he’s a Doctor he knows health care is increasing at a pretty fast clip in every State.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:54 pm
Watch,
“America is better off if health care is only available to those with insurance who have paid for it themselves.”
But we don’t have anything like that, and that’s a big part of the problem. Most people’s heath insurance is paid for largely or completely by the government or employers. So consumers often have little to no interest in what something costs. Doctors generally don’t even know or care what stuff costs. Some doc at a walk in clinic advised my wife to get a CT scan on a 1 in a crapload chance. My wife asked how much that would cost (we have an HSA). The guy looked at her like she had aliens coming out of her head. I doubt anyone had ever asked him that before.
June 27th, 2011 at 11:55 pm
Well, let’s see if she makes good on her word to Fox that she is not leaving the network. She already promised the folks at Fox that they could count on her, but maybe this is counting on her like the citizens in Alaska counted on her…
June 27th, 2011 at 11:56 pm
Some of the article from Jack’s link. Sounds like another media circus.
Splashy Sarah Palin Movie Premiere Shuts Out Hollywood; Turns Away Journalists
The director admits he didn’t invite his “right-wing” friends such as Jon Voight and Dennis Miller, while the media scrambles for seats.
PELLA, IOWA — Reporters from around the country that have descended upon tiny Pella, Iowa for the premiere of the Sarah Palin documentary The Undefeated on Tuesday night were in for a rude awakening: So scarce are the tickets that there’s no room in the theater for journalists.
The town, in fact, has been filling up rapidly since Palin confirmed she’d attend the premiere with her husband, Todd. Police notified residents that the streets around the venue, the 111-year-old Pella Opera House, would be shut down beginning 13 hours prior to show time.
On Monday, organizers were still divvying up tickets to the massively oversubscribed event, and reporters – some who travelled more than 1,000 miles — were given the word that they didn’t make the cut.
Organizers were scrambling Monday, though, trying to arrange a separate screening for journalists, but there were no guarantees given.
The Undefeated, from writer-director Steve Bannon, is one of two documentaries about the controversial former vice presidential candidate. The other – a less flattering look at Palin — is an untitled film from Nick Broomfield that is seeking a distributor.
Bannon has opted for a low-key premiere – “the hard, worn bricks of the Pella Opera House is all the red carpet I need,” he said Monday – though road closures and media trucks have dictated otherwise. Bannon, a U.S. Navy veteran, also enlisted some retired Navy SEALs for security detail.
Most of the 340 tickets went to Iowans and some of the commentators featured in the film, like Tammy Bruce and Sonnie Johnson. The most controversial cast member – not including Palin herself – is Andrew Breitbart, who is expected to be a last-minute arrival on Tuesday.
“I didn’t invite all my right-wing Hollywood friends,” Bannon said. “Jon Voight, Dennis Miller, I’ll have a screening for those guys later. I’d actually like them to buy a ticket, but they’re so tight… And you can quote me on that,” he joked.”
Pella is a religiously and politically conservative town of 10,000 people that boasts three dozen churches. With those sensibilities in mind, and because the Palins will be in the audience, Bannon and company will screen the version of the film with the less offensive opening.
(…)
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/splashy-sarah-palin-movie-premiere-206081
June 27th, 2011 at 11:59 pm
17. Universal coverage over time may well lead to cost savings. Maintenance care is cheaper than critical care. Sudden universal access to maintenance care in the short term leads to higher costs because of higher demand. This is not entirely negative.
Long term, the Mass approach holds some hope of reducing cost while expanding access.
Is the answer really some sort of Randian/survival of the fittest approach? Are the uninsured truly not an issue?
Only 75% of Texans have health insurance. At what point is lack of health insurance a problem?
Smack. What bold action did T-Paw take in MN to address healthcare issues? how successful was he?
June 28th, 2011 at 12:05 am
. But when it comes to Palin, you have these weird fantasies, like she’s a comic book heroine. You don’t even describe her like a person most of the time. She’s either a “force of nature” or a “tsunami” or an “arctic fox” or any other various arctic or woodland creature.
=========================================
Ha,ha,ha,….,ha,ha,ha….ha,ha,ha……….
I hit the nerve every time I use the bombastic,colorful and even poetic metaphors in describing great woman Sarah Palin.That’s the whole purpose.
Those metaphors reflect many of her qualities as a politician and a woman
of unusual strength, mental,psychological and central nerve system,
“the spine of steel”.
What she went through in the last three years and handled it with class
and dignity,I’m not sure I could.And I’m no push over by any means.
It’s a pleasure to compare Sarah Palin and her successes with boring stiff,very mediocre guy Mitt Romney.
Anyway,you think whatever you like,but remember:
ARCTIC GLADIATRIX is coming…..
June 28th, 2011 at 12:07 am
Watch,
I believe in a safety net, but 3rd party payer (without overt rationing) is a big part of what is driving double digit health care inflation. Consumers demand the best (and lots of it), insurance companies pay for it, but since they aren’t alchemists, they simply pass the costs back to the policy holders. Same thing for government health care, though it just goes to taxpayers.
Since there aren’t infinity dollars to spend on health care, rationing has to happen. The question is how much of it will be people making decisions for themselves in the marketplace, or how much of it will be made by government bureaucrats and tribunals. While the latter promises more equality, the former is more efficient and cost effective.
But that is ultimately what this country will be debating in the coming years, and must decide, because the all-you-can-eat model is simply not sustainable with finite resources.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:09 am
TEX,
“I hit the nerve every time I use the bombastic,colorful and even poetic metaphors in describing great woman Sarah Palin.That’s the whole purpose.”
The whole purpose is to annoy everybody?
June 28th, 2011 at 12:11 am
The barbeque seems to be along the lines of the clambake that they had in NH. The movie is probably the first step if she decides to run. The more people that see the truth about her record as governor the stronger she will be.
The thing about the Bachmann gaffe is that it is not a misspeak. She simply got her facts wrong just like she did when she said Lexington and Concord were in NH. Getting the facts wrong when you are running for President does not inspire confidence. It was also interesting that Bachmann was miffed and insisting she was a serious candidate when a reporter mentioned that Wallace had apologized. Bachmann’s hit guy Rollins had gone afte Palin for not being a serious candidate. Apparently Michelle can throw heat but she can’t take the heat.
The only way you cut healthcare costs is to give the individual a stake in saving money. If you gave individuals a share of the money that is saved then it would encourage them to save costs.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:18 am
Franklin,
TEX has long sung the praises of France’s socialist health care system. So he definitely won’t like your idea.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:19 am
Well, let’s see if she makes good on her word to Fox that she is not leaving the network. She already promised the folks at Fox that they could count on her,
===================================
What she said is that she had not made a decision on whether she was running and would make a decision over the summer. The Fox spokesperson said that Palin was a Fox contributor for now. Does not sound like she made any committment.
The fact that she was interested in Bannon doing a series of youtube videos on her term as governor would suggest that she is considering running. Also she has no speaking engagements on her calendar except for a keynote speech at Liberty University which could be useful to her politically.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:23 am
36 Nice. You capture the problem well. HSAs are great, I like the idea of requiring a living will to gain access to government supported healthcare. No one idea is the silver bullet. Very complicated stuff. Earnest and intrepid efforts are needed to address the looming tsunami of Medicare costs in the babyboomer retirement years.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:27 am
“The whole purpose is to annoy everybody?”
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Normal person would not be annoyed.Why?what for?
Only disrespectful PDS sufferers and various not so bright jokers
would have fits and go in a tizzy.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:30 am
Which is fine and dandy with me.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:34 am
I’m conservative as they come but I won’t be wasting money on someone that would be better served putting up or shutting up in front of the masses instead of preaching to the choir. Ok Sarah we get it, you’re a wonderful conservative now convince everyone else that you can lead in the first place. To have to pay to see it is the same as Nancy Pelosi saying you have to pay first before you see her greatness. Any of the candidates can put together a documnetary that only showcases their strengths. I’m afraid the only ones who are gonna buy are the TEX’s and Teledude’s of the world. No one else is gonna buy. You have to go on the networks and actually fight in real time.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:39 am
You can only go so far with the tongue in cheek antics. It’s a nice laugh here and there but let’s get serious. If the Palin people want to back someone with substance watch Chris Christie. That makes more sense. He’s in your face and making things happen – NOW.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:41 am
Sour grapes make terrible wine.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:43 am
Not sour grapes, it’s the truth. It’s 2011 not 2008,09,10 or 2007. Real time get in or get out.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:45 am
Don’t waste my time and money with a movie. Not gonna give you money for nothing. This doesn’t advance the conservative movement at all. It only advances one person to where? If all is said and done she doesn’t get in it was a waste of both time and money.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:49 am
I’m surprised Rush isn’t going to be there. That would really make get the MSM all riled up. Darn missed that opportunity. That would’ve really got us all frothing at the mouth and still no difference and probably a negative effect on those who sit on the fence about conservatism. Nothing gained.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:49 am
While Palin does everything she can to avoid journalists and anyone not drooling over her like a teenage girl at a Justin Bieber concert, people like Bachman, Pawlenty, even Cain and Santorum are going out of the way to approach voters of all Republican persuasions, and they’re successfully gathering support (especially Bachman and Cain). The longer Palin waits to actually speak to someone, the harder it will be for her to peel away supporters of other candidates. Those of us who aren’t abnormally obsessive with Palin are reaching the point where no matter what she has to say, her little game of hide and seek – really just plain disrespect for voters quite eager to hear from her – will have permanently turned us all off.
I was a huge Palin backer when she was my governor, I was even willing to look past her bailing on us for bigger and better things (as if there are bigger and better things outside of Alaska!). But I’m on my last nerve with her, and I’m not sure what she could possibly say to me – or most other Republican voters – that could make us all think she was truly worth waiting for. Personally, she is, and now always will be for me, a huge disappointment.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:58 am
While she may strengthen the conservative base she doesn’t have any appeal in advancing conservatism. It takes persuasion and she’s not doing that. She’s toying with the other side and it’s not appealing anymore. It’s like the cool person showing up and in the beginning picking on the bully and putting them in their place was cool but if that’s all you got, the bystandards just look at it as obnoxious. After a while you question why they were cool in the first place and then they become irrelevant.
June 28th, 2011 at 1:07 am
Michele Backmann today drew 250-300 people in her home town for her announcement.
Let’s see how many people descend upon Pella,Iowa to see Sarah Palin.
It’s already a mayhem.Over 50 news organizations domestic and from all
over the world are camped in front and around the Opera House.
The live broadcasts will start before sun rise.
The security is provided by retired “Navy Seals”.
After the film,at Palin request,1,000 locals will have B-B-Q with Sarah.
WOW!!!
June 28th, 2011 at 1:09 am
Guys,
I told you:
Sour grapes make terrible wine!!!
June 28th, 2011 at 1:17 am
And still a net nothing for us as conservatives who actually care about advancing our cause. Is she going to have a great rally to tell the bystandards why conservatism works? No. Just a spectacle for the bystandards to say how obnoxious and this that Sarah Palin, the jilted lover, and the pure conservatives continue to drool over her. I’m convinced that the msm wants her in at all costs. They don’t care how they look as long as it continues to have a negative effect on the advancement of conservatism. They know she’s polarizing not persuasive.
June 28th, 2011 at 1:26 am
It’s not about sour grapes, Tex, and if you cared one bit about the Conservative movement specifically and the Republican Party in general you might understand that. Most of us look for the best candidate in the race, even if we start out supporting one over the others, because we care about our country, not about one person. I’ve been on Romney’s team since he first got in the race five or six years ago, but I’ve always been open to other candidates, as I’ve posted here many times. I just posted above that I was a huge supporter of Palin, ever since the day she took office in my state, even defended her to anyone who’d listen when she quit and left town. But like #51 above said, she’s just toying with people who genuinely want to hear what her ideas and solutions are. She – and you – groups everyone who isn’t already on her side with the “lamestream” media, which only serves to insult those of us she’s gonna need if she jumps in the race. Not the best tactic to win friends and influence people. But then my guess is you’re not really trying to win friends. I do believe, however, that if Palin ever read your posts she wouldn’t be too happy.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:49 am
Just look at the Palin “news” today: “ALL supporters go to Pella, even if you don’t have a ticket!”….Wait! don’t go…Wait! go anyway”
LSM: “Palin talking to IA bigwigs”
C4P: “sweet, I toldja, game on, Boom! taste her nightstick”….
Politico: “she’s NOT talking to the IA Bigwigs”….
C4P: “of course she’s NOT… this is GREAT for her; brilliant! Boom! taste her nightstick”
Yes. It’s schizophrenic. They (think) they want her to run, so that the last two years of their pathetic lives have SOME purpose, some meaning…But if the LSM “reports” that she has FINALLY taken some concrete steps toward running, they will reflexively say “no she has not.”
The GOP’s problem is that these, ummm, “special” folks will be catatonic when she announces the “I am not running” decision that the rest of the world has seen since July, 2009 ——- NO, November, 2008.
They are only 10 – 15 % of the GOP primary voters, but that is enough in the GE to make a difference…SP is actively damaging the GOP.
June 28th, 2011 at 3:43 am
I can’t believe of all the millions of women in this country the two they may end of running are two of the most annoying and clueless women in the country! It’s bizarre isn’t it!!
June 28th, 2011 at 4:02 am
You guys are all right…It’s a fiasco that belongs on TMZ more than it belongs on the political pages ……
Politics require disipline…..Celebrity requires nothing but handlers making sure they’re in the right place for photos and publicity.
Politics and Celebrity don’t mix..
June 28th, 2011 at 4:10 am
Heath #57
LOL
June 28th, 2011 at 5:19 am
Smack, here’s an article about some of Michele Bachmann’s not so admirable traits that you might enjoy. Put it in your oppo file. I think it’s point is that Michele is a hybrid of Mike Huckabee’s and Sarah Palin’s worst parts. You’re welcome.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/06/14/michele-bachmanns-unrivaled-extremism-gay-rights-to-religion.html
June 28th, 2011 at 5:37 am
#60
I liked Bachmann, but that article scared me away….I don’t see how she could possibly get the nomination let alone win the White House.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:36 am
She is downright crazy when you read a little into her. Basically a religious nutjob that is suddenly running second for the chance to become the most important person in the world with the ability to kill us all if she wants! Perry can’t get in soon enough (just in case Mitt gets hit by a bus).
By the way Michelle it’s “that’s why I’m runnning for the presidency”, not “that’s why I’m running for the President”.
Perhaps a teleprompter would actually be a good idea.
p.s. how boring was T/Paw on Fox n Friends this morning! So transparent too suddenly now saying that the next President needs executive experience – just after MB takes off – what a co-incidence. By the way if you want kudos for changing your mind about cap and trade then why shouldn’t Romney be afforded the same credit for the rare occasions when he has? Hey? Hey?
June 28th, 2011 at 6:41 am
Bauchman is not my candidate, but I would be carefull of articles like this. An article such as this on Sarah Palin would send some of her supporters into a frenzy of “poor Sarah” or “those morons this is proof she is perfect” whatever Bauchman is, I admire her for stepping up to the plate instead of hiding in the corner and wetting her pants everytime someone throws a ball at her. Good luck to both ladies. Get in, get in, get in, or get out, get out, get out! Again kudos to Huckabee for deciding soon enough not to hurt possible alternatives to him.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:56 am
Run! Mama Bear! Run!
June 28th, 2011 at 7:06 am
since we are almost in July how much longer does palin really have to decide isn’t her window of closing for a decision / announcement one way or the other ?
June 28th, 2011 at 7:07 am
15 – Moron! The intent was never to lower costs. How many times does that need to be repeated?
June 28th, 2011 at 7:13 am
First line of the report that Smack posted proves it is a bunch of bull:
“In 2006, Massachusetts enacted landmark health care reform legislation that promised to extend health care coverage to all citizens while significantly lowering costs.”
There was no promise of lowered costs. That is a lie. Would anyone care to show me where lower costs were promised?
June 28th, 2011 at 7:15 am
#65 greg: There is the possiblity that Palin will wait until the end of July so that she will have been out of office for 2 years. After that time period, Alaskans can’t file ethics complaints against her. Don’t know if this is really the case. Last night, her daughter Bristol was on Hannity and said she was all for her mother running for the Presidency.
As for MB, these minor gaffes have to stop. It makes me wonder if she can run an effective presidential campaign while also trying to do her job in the US House. She’s at an enormous disadvantage in this regard since the others like TPaw, Romney, etc. are campaigning 24/7.
June 28th, 2011 at 7:16 am
Jaxemer-66
Mitt said cost containment was an objective in 2006. Am I a moron too?
Mitt Romney (April, 2006):
“Every uninsured citizen in Massachusetts will soon have affordable health insurance and the costs of health care will be reduced.”
http://whynotromney.blogspot.com/2011/03/romneys-documented-reversal-on.html
June 28th, 2011 at 7:17 am
No one has cared to answer my question in #114 here either:
http://race42012.com/2011/06/27/welcome-to-the-big-leagues-michele/
For all the RomNots. What would you have done differently with regard to health care, given your detailed knowledge of the public and private context (which you would know by reading the articles I posted)?
June 28th, 2011 at 7:22 am
Smack…if your study says that 60% of the increased cost was born by individuals and private citizens, then I’m pleased as punch. You see, that’s the point of shared responsibility….at least in Mass, every one is paying something, instead of the Gov. paying nearly every thing!
Is Mass Care a success…I don’t think so either, but you, and the study authors, again take certain metrices out of context, and spin them to make Mitt look bad. You underestimate the common voter, who can see through this line of reasoning.
June 28th, 2011 at 7:23 am
69 – Lowered costs were not the purpose of the plan. There was the hope that there would be some modest cost reductions when the free riders were no longer free riders. It was never the point of the plan though. In fact, the legislation that was passed established a commission to look at ways to address the cost problem.
There are many, many reasons that costs have gone up in Massachusetts and all over the country. Not the least of which is ObamaCare itself. Post-Mitt, the legislature and Democratic governor have expanded the scope of the Massachusetts health care plan significantly, which has also increased costs.
The report that Smack cited starts with a false premise, and therefore isn’t worth much. There is no proof anywhere that the mandate increased the cost of health care in Massachusetts significantly.
June 28th, 2011 at 7:25 am
Are there any actual Bachmann supporters on this site? Anyone where she is firmly their favorite candidate, regardless of who else is in the race?
June 28th, 2011 at 7:29 am
#72 Jaxemer11 – As a Mass resident, my HC costs went up significantly as a direct result of RomneyCare because the law did away with low-cost, high deductible plans. This is my major gripe with Obama/RomneyCare – not the individual mandate.
June 28th, 2011 at 7:35 am
Daughter: Sarah Palin “Definitely Knows” If She Is Running Or Not
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/06/28/daughter_sarah_palin_definitely_knows_if_she_is_running_or_not.html
Bristol Palin tells “FOX & Friends” that her mother, former Gov. Sarah Palin, has made up her mind and “definitely” knows if she is going to run for President or not. Transcript available below.
Palin is in Iowa today to promote her biopic, “The Undefeated.”
BRIAN KILMEADE, FOX & FRIENDS: “Do you get the sense that your mom has not made up her mind yet or do you think she knows and hasn’t told told?”
BRISTOL PALIN: “You know, she definitely knows. We’ve talked about it before. Some things just need to stay in the family.”
June 28th, 2011 at 7:38 am
“The Undefeated” will bomb worse than “Atlas Shrugged.” The libertarians were all riled up and telling us how their little movie was going to change the world, and after a few days of froth, it was the rest of the country who shrugged.
Similarly, I expect TEX to be dancing naked in the moonlight tonight, conjuring the spirits of arctic wildlife, waiting for The New Era to begin.
Then, in a few days, the country will yawn, and TEX will return to his keyboard, pounding out spastic denunciations of everyone in the outside world.
June 28th, 2011 at 7:46 am
75. Who is Bristol again?
June 28th, 2011 at 7:53 am
74 – I agree, that is a problem. There are a lot of problems. I just wish people would be honest about them, and not make up new ones that aren’t real.
June 28th, 2011 at 7:54 am
Would FOX put one of Romney’s sons on to pump him up? And by the by…
The fact that Sarah encouraged Bristol on her little Dancing Stars escapade gave me one more reason not to like this family.
June 28th, 2011 at 8:03 am
76. Very snarky start to my day. I loved it. But you’ve been practicing and honing your snark craft on Tex for quite some time. Can’t help that urge to go under you weight class, but successful snarking often disregards weight class.
Every description of “Undefeated” that I’ve come across makes it sound like a throwback propaganda piece from the ’40s. Strange format. I just don’t see this appealing to anyone who isn’t already in the 10% “we love Sarah” club. And how does this broaden her appeal in any way? I don’t see it.
With nothing but his posts to go by to form an impression of Tex visibly, your prediction of his reaction to the premiere tonight is visually disturbing, and I’m going to have to think about baseball to cleanse the mental pallet.
June 28th, 2011 at 8:20 am
Watch,
What can I say? I’m a slave to my craft.
June 28th, 2011 at 8:22 am
77 Ellie,rightgal,Liz….
Bristol is the same girl you attacked viciously and got banned for it.
June 28th, 2011 at 8:22 am
Jose,
“Daughter: Sarah Palin “Definitely Knows” If She Is Running Or Not”
Combine that with the fact that FoxNews is letting Sarah do her thing while on the payroll, and you’ve got everything you need to know.
This blows the lid off of Telly’s theory- that Palin is just being ingenuously coy. Since Bristol has now publicly told the world that a decision has been made, Fox must either push for a public announcement from Palin, or implicitly admit they’ve been in on the charade all along.
June 28th, 2011 at 8:28 am
It’s weird to think that a film about a grizzly bear will be playing in an opera house. I hope the grizzly speaks Italian and can sing.
June 28th, 2011 at 8:30 am
She has made no overt move towards running. There is no reason for Fox to push anything. By the way, Fox has not been in on any charade except the fact that they seem to have distributed talking points that Palin is not running. It seems that Fox has done everything they can to undermine her.
June 28th, 2011 at 8:37 am
76
Matt,
You sound very bitter and envious.
I’m not a religious guy,but I think envy is a sin.Is it?Some of you bible thumpers should know.
Who is the latest flunky that you support?
You residents beard scrachers have a talent of supporting squishy
RINO losers.Keep it up,we need good laughs here.
June 28th, 2011 at 8:44 am
Matt,
I get it. You don’t like Sarah Palin.
Who do you like? Pawlenty? It’s becoming increasingly clear that he faces a tough road. I don’t see things falling in place for him.
I get no pleasure in saying it, but Bachmann is a fruitcake.
Herman Cain? Santorum. Not going to happen.
Mitt Romney? I know how you feel about him. If the field stays as is, I think he wins in a walk.
Again, I ask….who do you like? What would you like to see happen? Only plausible scenarios, please.
June 28th, 2011 at 8:46 am
This is why we shouldn’t care about Romneycare. Mitt’s plan to replace Obamacare bears ZERO RESEMBLANCE to Obamacare.
http://mittromney.com/issues/health-care
June 28th, 2011 at 8:48 am
Franklin,
“She has made no overt move towards running”
??? I thought she said, “Game on!”
June 28th, 2011 at 8:51 am
Obama possibly in violation of FEC laws http://www.rightspeak.net/2011/06/does-setting-of-this-president-obama.html
June 28th, 2011 at 8:53 am
Matt MWS: I want to ask you a question. You are gay, correct? I want to know why ALL, not a few, or a certain type, but ALL – - why do all gay men despise Sarah Palin? Is it a psychopathic fear? It seems to me its a throwback to their fear of motherly rejection because she is a conservative female. Its like all the vicious attacks on her by the media, all because she is a conservative woman. If she were a male, she would be without a doubt the frontrunner by far in this race. Just like if Barack was not black – - he would be sitting in Chicago being a community organizer pretending to be a senator.
June 28th, 2011 at 8:55 am
TEX,
What exactly sounded “bitter” or “envious” in #76?
June 28th, 2011 at 8:58 am
82. LOL> Keep dreamin, fella.
June 28th, 2011 at 8:58 am
More Palin trying to have it both ways and remain relevant as long as feasibly possible. Please Palin, please get in. As a Romney supporter I want you in!!!
June 28th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Rubio,
LOL! No, I am not gay. I’ve been happily married for 13 years and have 5 children. I don’t have regular contact with anyone who I know is gay, so I can’t speak to your theory about gay men and Palin. My sense is that it’s a gross oversimplification though.
June 28th, 2011 at 8:58 am
Rubiozone,
There are several gay regulars at C4P…some women, some men. Also, the Hillbuzz.org crew (former Hillary supporters) are squarely in her corner. It’s a mistake to say ALL gay men despise her.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Matt, sorry I got you confused with another guy who used to go by Metro-something…I thought the MWS was shortened for that. OOOPS! LOL.
But – - its true about gay men – - they hate her.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:00 am
To all fellow Mittheads: Look at Kevin’s comment at #34. This was in January 2008. How prophetic. Admittedly, this was back when everyone thought Hillary would be the Dem nominee. But just read #34.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:00 am
^ Link goes with post #98 http://race42012.com/2008/01/31/ann-coulter-im-voting-for-hillary-if-mccain-is-the-nominee/#comments
June 28th, 2011 at 9:00 am
Matt,
Thanks for clearing that up!
I think a prominent FP poster on this site is gay, though.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Right Wingnut – yeah but ok, thats an extreeeeeme minority.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:02 am
Rubio,
“If (Palin) were a male, she would be without a doubt the frontrunner by far in this race.”
Really? Can you name the last male Vice Presidential nominee who had only held a major office for 1 1/2 years?
Whether you like it or not, “Scott” Palin would probably still be mayor of Wasilla now. Maybe governor of Alaska, but definitely nobody 98% of us had heard of.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:02 am
97
I think most gay men hate Palin because most gay men are Democrats.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:03 am
What’s an FP poster?
June 28th, 2011 at 9:03 am
102
Spot-on. Palin is famous BECAUSE she’s a woman.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:05 am
103 What I meant was, she has the most Reaganesque qualities of any of the candidates right now, save for Perry IF he runs (and I am praying he will).
I like Sarah, I always have.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:05 am
Right,
“I think a prominent FP poster on this site is gay, though.”
That’s weird. I just named the guy who you’re thinking of (he is no longer a FPP) and my comment got eaten. I wonder if there is a filter for his name.
Anyway, his initials are AK, and I think he sometimes posts here under the name “Someone you know”.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:06 am
105. Palin is ATTACKED because she is a woman. Period.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:06 am
Rubio,
Metro isn’t gay either, though he’s a big proponent of what he considers “gay rights.” He and I have got 30 rounds over the issue of gay marriage, gay adoption, homosexuality in general, etc…..
June 28th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Palin and Bachmann clawing at one another. Huckabee and Christie on the sidelines. Pawlenty and Huntsman invisible.
Did Team Romney script this?
June 28th, 2011 at 9:08 am
Rubio,
“Palin is ATTACKED because she is a woman. Period.”
That’s probably part of it. But Dan Quayle isn’t a woman, and he arguably got it worse. But there is no question being a woman has been a double-edged sword for Palin.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:08 am
91
Ha,ha,ha….ha,ha,ha…………
Sarah Palin has the spine of steel and more courage in her little finger than all the squishy sissified metrosexual RINOS combined.
That’s where the envy and hate come from.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:10 am
Rubio,
FP poster means “front page poster” same as “FPP”.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:11 am
Michele ‘John Wayne Gacy’ Bachmann and Sarah ‘Paul Revere’ Palin. Wow.
Question: Should Romney even bother with the debates or just show up in Tampa to receive the nomination?
June 28th, 2011 at 9:17 am
Thanks for clearing that up MWS.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:19 am
The study has confirmed:
Ugly women and sissified men despise Sarah Palin,
because she has everything they wish they have but they don’t
and never will.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:21 am
Now THIS is prophetic. Hat tip to Adam Graham (is this Adam X?)
“folks like Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, and Rush Limbaugh settled on Romney as a way to avoid McCain or the best of a bad field. Defections from these hosts in support of Sarah Palin (which would happen) could hamper a run in 2012.”
http://race42012.com/2008/11/30/there-can-be-only-two/
June 28th, 2011 at 9:25 am
Laura Ingraham, Sean Hannity, Mark Levin, and Rush Limbaugh lining up to stop McCain worked out really well. Oops, wait, it flopped completely.
Fact is, Romney is stronger with conservatives than McCain ever was, and on top of that, Romney is poised to shatter George W. Bush’s GOP fundraising records.
Unless the base/evangelicals/Tea Party all line up behind one alternative, Romney will win.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:26 am
??? I thought she said, “Game on!”
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I don’t think that is enough for Fox.
Michele ‘John Wayne Gacy’ Bachmann and Sarah ‘Paul Revere’ Palin. Wow.
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This may be an inconvenient truth but paul Revere confirms what Palin said.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:30 am
Fact is, Romney is stronger with conservatives than McCain ever was, and on top of that, Romney is poised to shatter George W. Bush’s GOP fundraising records.
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George W Bush’s record was set when $1,000 was the most you can give. He’s so strong with conservatives that he is getting 27% in SC. That’s really strong.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:34 am
Max
“Question: Should Romney even bother with the debates or just show up in Tampa to receive the nomination?”
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No libs and spineless RINOS this time!
This is the era of SARAH PALIN,Tea Party and conservatives.
After Florida mr stiff Willard Rockefeller Romney will go into obscurity
where he belongs, a man who at 64 years of age still doesn’t know who he is,what to believe and what to think without consultants telling him and
supplying him with daily talking points.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:37 am
121
You clearly never pay any attention to any candidates except Palin.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:39 am
TEX watch this video. It gives you a taste of what Mitt would be like standing at the podium in the White House press room in 2013. It also shows just how unscripted and genuine he is this cycle. He is visibly comfortable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50wy6XKTVeA&feature=channel_video_title
June 28th, 2011 at 9:43 am
tex, you will be disappointed when sarah doesn’t run and if she does she will run a halfhearted and weak campaign. she will say it is ‘unconventional’ in defense and really believe it.
lots of people like sarah but everybody knows that she cannot win a general election. She will not run and even if she did she will not be the nominee.
what she would do is suck all the attention away from mitt challengers. you would have mitt versus sarah versus a bunch of other people. mitt wins that battle hands down. the media loves palin because she provides them with so much drama. mitt would probably increase his poll numbers while not having to lift a fingers while the cameras are rolling on her talking about how unfair and lame the lamestream media is.
in the mean time romney will be filling his coffers getting ready to take on obama. please sarah palin, don’t be a chicken, run.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:49 am
“SP is actively damaging the GOP.” This is rich coming from the Romney camp.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:50 am
“I think that it’s insulting to insinuate that a candidate for president is less than serious,” Bachmann said in an interview on ABC when asked about Wallace’s apology, which he posted online.
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I thought this was interesting. That is what Rollins is insisting that Sarah Palin is. Apparently she can throw heat but she can’t take it. I don’t think anyone would have the guts to do it but someone should get tape of Rollins saying that Bachmann is a unserious candidate and use that in a ad. Be interesting to see the reaction.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:54 am
Simple question to Libs and RINOS:
When Sarah Palin declares what will all the PDS sufferers and incurable
morons say?
June 28th, 2011 at 9:56 am
127
When she declares what? That she’s not running?
June 28th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Palin could use some consultants to tell her what to think, because what she thinks on her own has gotten her the worst poll numbers in the country.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Rubio, you’re making a rash generalization about gay men and Sarah Palin. I’m gay…and Sarah Palin is my #1 choice for 2012.
June 28th, 2011 at 9:58 am
When she declares most republicans will say one of the 3 things they’ve been saying for months:
1) Romney will still win
2) Can’t wait for Perry to show up
3) Wish Chris Christie was here
Palin is a factor only among the small throng of insane folk trying to choose between Bachmann-crazy, Cain-crazy, or Palin-crazy.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:00 am
The real question is what with the Palinistas say when Rick Perry enters the race, since he is more conservative, more experienced, and more qualified than Palin ever has or ever will be.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:01 am
If Palin’s half a brain worked, she’d stay out and endorse Perry, so she could at least claim some credit by association with a potentially strong candidate.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:02 am
ROMBOTS better start paying attention.
Mitt Romney is losing to Bachmann, both in Oregon and Montana in new PPP polls out this morning.
I do believe Bachmann will drop once she gets vetted, but Mitt is no starting to suffer under his bad FAV/UNFAV Ratios.
TPAW – Palin – Bachmann – Cain ….all have better FAV/UNFAV ratios’s among GOP voters then Romney in these two states.
Romney has to start spending his millions to turn his FAV/UNFAVS around.
In Montana……Romney FAV/UNFAVS is 47/36…this is just horrible.
Mitt Romney is in deep trouble……….The ROMBOTS need to start pushing Mitt to spend his millions in positive ADS….and quit being so much of a centrist.
Mitt is in trouble!
June 28th, 2011 at 10:08 am
Sarah Palin actually leads in Montana when included…Romney in third with 17%.
The talk has been about Gingirch, Huntsman, TPAW not gaining traction………Cain has stalled….but what about Romney?
Mitt can’t win the GOP Nomination with those horrible FAV/UNFAVS numbers.
Compare Mitt’s FAV/UNFAVS to McCain’s of “07″…..not even close.
This has to start worrying the ROMBOTS here……or they are blind.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:09 am
If Gov. Palin decides to end her kabuki dance and finally enter the race, I, for one, eagerly anticipate seeing whether the argument espoused by so many Palinistas – that she’ll at last find the ability to drastically reshape her standing among the American public, and the race will change – has any basis in reality.
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That is a mischaracterization of my argument. My argument is that a run for President would give her a platform to change people’s minds. When Jim Cramer talks about a stock, he says there has to be a catalyst to move the stock price up or down. I think it’s the same for a politician. There has to be a catalyst for poll numbers to move. A presidential run could provide a catalyst.
Her question and answer session with a group of Long Island businessmen is a case in point. This is a group that would seem to be closer to Romney than to Palin. They tend to focus on economic policy more than social policy and Romney is supposed to be superbusinessman. They had questions about whether Palin would be a serious presidential candidate. The reason they invited her was because she was a potential candidate and they wanted to hear her in person to make up their minds. The response was generally that she was not the idiot that tv made her out to be. The fact is that if she had not been a potential candidate then she would not hae been invited.
A presidential run would be at worst a first step towards rehabilitating her image. Even a loss would not be fatal as she is young enough to try again. It took Reagan 3 times to win.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:10 am
134
Yeah, lol. His massive leads in all the early states and national polls are really such a disaster. Perhaps we should lend more credence to PPP polls in obscure states that vote many months after Iowa.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:11 am
TEX,
“Simple question to Libs and RINOS:
When Sarah Palin declares what will all the PDS sufferers and incurable
morons say?”
Didn’t we cover that in the first 20 comments of the thread? My personal favorite came from Bob Hovic, who said Not sure about the other morons, but if it happens I’ll say, “Big mistake, Sarah, I had hoped you were smart enough not to do that.”
June 28th, 2011 at 10:11 am
Smack. Montana. 4 people, 12 goats and 1,000 horses.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:12 am
138 I’m with Bob Hovic.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:12 am
Very interesting article on the Iowa Republican web page by an Iowa insider who up to know has not taken Sarah seriously because he did not believe she running. Here’s a quote refering to Organizing for Palin activities in Iowa:
“The Palin organizers also soak up any Iowa political knowledge they can get. A couple of weeks ago, I was speaking to a conservative breakfast club in western Iowa. After conversing with those in attendance for an hour or so, I noticed that one of the women was taking extensive notes.
I was worried that I might have missed the fact that a reporter was present at the meeting. It wasn’t a reporter. It was a Palin organizer who I had yet to meet.Even though Sarah Palin doesn’t play by the same rules that seem to govern the rest of the field of Republican candidates, she has developed an extensive ground game in Iowa, even if it’s not being officially coordinated by her or her advisors.
In many ways, I think that Palin is probably more organized in Iowa in terms of grassroots communication than most of the current field.We don’t know yet if Palin’s visit today is the precursor to a presidential campaign, but if it is, I would not be surprised. ”
http://theiowarepublican.com/home/2011/06/28/more-than-a-movie-debut/
June 28th, 2011 at 10:15 am
141. when is a movie debut just a movie debut?
Today, in Iowa.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:15 am
132.Max Twain Says:
June 28th, 2011 at 10:00 am
The real question is what with the Palinistas say when Rick Perry enters the race, since he is more conservative, more experienced, and more qualified than Palin ever has or ever will be.
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and he loves him some Al Gore more than Palin does!
June 28th, 2011 at 10:15 am
Debate news: The July 10 debate in Las Vegas sponsored by the Daily Caller and Americans for Tax Reform has been postponed.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/nevada-presidential-debate-postponed-in-hopes-of-perry-candidacy/2011/06/24/AG5KMbjH_story.html
I don’t really understand the motivation for the postponement; the possibility of Rick Perry entering the race doesn’t mean that the campaign isn’t continuing for the other candidates who are already in the race.
Maybe the real problem was that too few candidates had agreed to show up yet.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:16 am
YES!!!
TPAW’s FP speech this morning.
“It is not wrong for Republicans to question the conduct of President Obama’s military leadership in Libya. There is much to question. And it is not wrong for Republicans to debate the timing of our military drawdown in Afghanistan— though my belief is that General Petraeus’ voice ought to carry the most weight on that question.
What is wrong, is for the Republican Party to shrink from the challenges of American leadership in the world. History repeatedly warns us that in the long run, weakness in foreign policy costs us and our children much more than we’ll save in a budget line item.
America already has one political party devoted to decline, retrenchment, and withdrawal. It does not need a second one.”
June 28th, 2011 at 10:17 am
Bob Hovik, MWS, rightgal, Max Twain, John Galt are just a few of the clueless who are in for the shock of their lifetime.
Because she will not only run…she will dominate.
Mark your time.
I’m just here to help.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Rightgal,
I see another ROMBOT making fun of “fly over country”…not surprising.
Massachusetts Conservative,
You know I’m right…you are a smart guy.
Mitt can not win with those FAV/UNFAVS at that number…you know this.
The question is what does Mitt do about this problem?
Does anyone have any suggestions?
June 28th, 2011 at 10:20 am
143. Perry has stated he will only jump in if Palin doesn’t.
Hence his wait until August.
Try to keep up.
It is foolhardy to doubt me.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:22 am
“Whether you like it or not, “Scott” Palin would probably still be mayor of Wasilla now. Maybe governor of Alaska, but definitely nobody 98% of us had heard of.” I cannot help it that only 2% of the population are political junkies.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:23 am
“I see another ROMBOT making fun of “fly over country”…not surprising.” Yup that is their specialty.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:24 am
134. I am laughing out loud in my office right now. Just keep repeating it and maybe one day it will be true. if someone is worried right now, it is tpaw. he is on the verge of collapse. he better hvae good 2q fundraising numbers or people will start jumping ship.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Teledude,
I do think that Palin is more organized the most of the other candidates in Iowa….honestly.
I know I have given you a hard time with Palin, in saying that I will take her seriously only when she hires …someone,…and that is still true…
..however…
..most of the candidates are organizations are very small in Iowa. Cain Iowa Org is a joke…Gingrich has none. Bachmann has just started.
Like I said last night….still room for Palin…even in Iowa.
But…
Palin.is.not.running…..IMO.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:26 am
147
Mitt cannot win with those unfavs. But you are assuming those unfavs will remain high by June or July 2012.
The fact is, Mitt gets attacked daily on talk radio, Fox News, and in articles all over the internet. And he simply does not respond in a large enough scale for some people to see.
This is okay in June or July 2011.
And do not forget Mitt leads the polls in all the important places by a LOT.
The campaign begins in earnest in September this year. You will see PLENTY of ads by Mitt.
And also, do not forget. Mitt has NH and NV in the bag.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:26 am
John Galt,
Keep laughing….soon those laughters will turn to tears if Mitt doesn’t change those horrible FAV/UNFAVS numbers around.
Mitt can’t win with those numbers…period.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:28 am
“Because she will not only run…she will dominate.” Tele, for what it is worth, the Palin camp told our local swell that she might visit our county in October. Thus, she is not ruling out the possibility of running. However, it is not 100% certainty that she will run. If she runs, I for one will definitely support her. On the other hand, we need a back up plan in order to stop Mr. Romney. So in short, please do not count the chickens until she announces. Further, it does our cause no good to trash the other Conservatives in the race because we might need to help them defeat Mr. Romney.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:29 am
“And also, do not forget. Mitt has NH and NV in the bag.” Once upon a time he also had Iowa in the bag in 2007. What happened there?
June 28th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Massachusetts Conservative,
I’m sure you are correct..we will see plenty of Mitt’s ADS….and maybe those ads will turn Mitt’s numbers around.
I’m glad that you have admitted that Mitt has a FAV problem right now……as I admit TPAW has a huge TOP Line problem right now.
Will see what happens….but you are the first ROMBOT to have admitted a problem with your candidates FAV/UNFAVS issue…..that is brave of you.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:45 am
156. Nothing is in the bag yet.
Maybe it’s because I’m from Iowa…
but I remember something about counting chickens…
June 28th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Smack,
I can’t even laugh at you at this point. Romney is in trouble? Says a T-Paw supporter? Romney is currently beating T-Paw…..in Minnesota. That pretty much sums up the joke T-Paw is quickly becoming.
Bachmann and Palin don’t have what it takes to win a marathon with Mitt. The gaffes alone will drive their negatives to places never before seen in politics. Romney need only sit back, pile up his millions, and prepare to swamp everyone with a 50 state campaign that due to proportional allocation will knock everyone else out.
Only Perry, at this point, has any real shot at knocking him off.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:46 am
156 OJ: Iowa looked winnable for Mitt, but it wasn’t. It isn’t now. The dynamic that defeated Romney in Iowa doesn’t exist in NH or NV. Your bold and brave swipe at this prediction is also juvenile. Could another dynamic unexpectedly pop up and kill Mitt in NH and NV. Yes, but since we’ve already seen the conditions that really kill him, and those conditions don’t exist in NH or NV, it seems pretty reasonable to state that Mitt will win these.
Who do you have who take NH and NV away from Mitt? How will they do it? What is the dynamic you see unfolding that will knock him off?
You don’t got Jack, jack.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:47 am
How can someone be ‘The Undefeated’ if she has already been defeated a whole bunch of times?
June 28th, 2011 at 10:47 am
160. How would Rudy do in NH?
June 28th, 2011 at 10:49 am
161. The title of the film is not about her election record.
It is about the founding values that stretch from the constitution to Reagan and now to her.
You will have to see the movie, but it is a little deeper than how you are looking at it.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:49 am
144,
It was postponed because Romney skipped it. They seem to feel if Perry shows up Romney will be more inclined to be there next time.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:50 am
Max,
You are foaming out of your mouth with hate,not opinion.
That won’t make any difference.
Willard is still liberal-moderate stiff,going nowhere but down,
and Sarah Palin is SuperStar right behind him without even running.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:50 am
163,
So the values of putting Planned Parenthood members on the court and imposing windfall taxes are the founding values of Reagan? Huhhh?
June 28th, 2011 at 10:51 am
Max, I know part of your Palin(supporter) bashing is to get a rise out of the Palin supporters on this site, but I cannot imagine that you can’t see a way that Palin wins the nomination…it’s quite simple actually…Palin wins Iowa, Romney wins NH, Palin wins SC, Romney wins Nevada, they fight for Florida, split Super Tuesday, Palin wins most of the midwest, Romney wins a lot of the West…this thing could go to the convention if Palin enters. If both Giuliani and Palin enter…
WAIT FOR IT…
Romney loses.
Palin is the nominee.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:52 am
It doesn’t matter if Mitt leans left or right, flips or flops, none of that makes a buffoon like Palin qualified. Which is why a huge majority of Americans feel she is unfit to serve.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:54 am
166 – Are you seriously twisting those parts of Palin’s record?
June 28th, 2011 at 10:58 am
When the general election numbers come out for Oregon and Montana, I expect Mitt as the best candidate vs. Obama just like he has done already.
June 28th, 2011 at 10:59 am
I’m sure Mitt is realllllly scared of Rudy coming in a winning that one delegate he won last time.
As for Palin, she could win Iowa, South Carolina is a little tougher, which is why Mitt is currently beating her there.
But as for a 2 person race between the two, Romney would romp. It goes back to the rule changes creating proportional allocation for Super Tuesday and all other March contests. Romney will have a 50 state organization, not to mention the support of nearly every governor, senator, and a big majority of congressmen and state officials on board. His GOTV operation with such support will be overwhelming. He’ll be able to rack up delegates even in states he loses, just like Obama did versus Hillary.
On top of that, she is almost guaranteed to lose any open primary that permits independents to vote, as she has the worst numbers among them by far.
The delegate math becomes simply too much for her, even though she doesn’t believe in math, it still adds up.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Max Twain,
Mitt is not beating TPAW in Minnesota among GOP voters…nor among GOP voters and INDIES combined. You didn’t read the crosstabs of the poll did ya?
The DEMS in MN hate TPAW with passion that you wouldn’t believe….in that Poll Mitt defeats TPAW with the DEMS by 4:1….congrats.
You misread a poll..that’s great on your part…….congrats.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:01 am
The proportional allocation is the reason Huckabee sat out. He knew even if he won Iowa and SC, he’d likely lose a long-term delegate fight with Mitt. Romney will have teams on the ground organizing states that Palin and others can’t even afford to visit. It becomes a mismatch.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Smack,
Massachusetts political makeup isn’t all that different from Minnesota, yet Pawlenty would never get anywhere as close to Mitt as Romney has in Minnesota. It’s a terrible sign, on top of all of the other horrible news in Pawlenty world lately, from awful debates to sagging funds to staffers going without pay. Tough times..
June 28th, 2011 at 11:04 am
Steven S,
Big deal…so what?
Romney’s UNFAVS in Montana are horrible.
BTW, they are horrible in the Iowa DMR poll as well.
TPAW 6% – 58/13
Romney 23% – 52/38
….honestly..I rather be TPAW then Mitt in this poll.
Now the Romney camp says Mitt is not going back to Iowa until the August debate.
Yep….Mitt has nothing to worry about in Iowa..or anywhere else.
hehhehhheeeeehhehee
June 28th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Max, the only buffoon is you.
Palin is nothing she has been portrayed to be.
Many are starting to realize this fact.
Only the truly ignorant morons still project their mental deficiencies on her.
Don’t do that.
It just makes you look bad.
I’m only here to help.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:06 am
Max
“It doesn’t matter if Mitt leans left or right, flips or flops,”
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Oh yes it does!
Willard is lefty leaning phony,fake and a fraud.
He’s endorsed by none other than AlGore.
By,by nomination…
Sarahcuda will clobber Willard like a big dumb halibut in Alaska and
dispatch him to a well deserved retirement.
Good riddance lefty!
June 28th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Smack,
You’re so worried about Mitt’s unfavs in poll where your guy was being crushed by Michele Bachmann and Herman freakin Cain! Let that sink in. You can’t beat the Hermanator! LMAO
June 28th, 2011 at 11:07 am
The DEMS like Mitt in MASS more then the DEMS like Tpaw in MINN (Romneycare)
Congrats!!
But people here actually believed Romney was ahead of TPAW among the MINN GOP voters….and that wasn’t the case.
Plus..there are two MINN candidates…that also has an effect.
But whatever,
TPAW will not lose to Bachmann or Romney in Minnesota in the GOP MN contest…and I think you know that.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Smack, if dreaming up delusions about Mitt Romney’s favorability ratings in a Democratic poll make you feel better about your guy coming in 6th and 7th place in the two states they polled, go for it. Heh.
News flash: PPP doesn’t matter. I won’t even post them front page here (and haven’t for quite some time now). They are ridiculous KosKid / SEIU propaganda and always out of line with regards to reputable polling organizations. If they are where your hope for this election lie, you are in for a huge disappointment my friend.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:09 am
I enjoy seeing the Romney, Palin, Tpaw, Bachmann, etc supporters continue to duke it out. I hope that Palin, Perry, and Rudy all enter the race and muddy the waters even more. Coke the middle of September the polls will be so crazy that republicans will still be crying for someone to unite behind.
HUCKABEE, HUCKABEE, HUCKABEE!
June 28th, 2011 at 11:11 am
Max Twain,
Will see who is laughing on Iowa Caucus Night.
Michele Bachmann said this morning on ABC that John Quincy Adams was a forefather……..hehhehhhheheeeeeeeeee.
Bachmann has always underperformed in the 6th district in MN..and she will lose in Iowa at the end of the this process.
..and I think you know this.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Matt C,
I understand that PPP does push the narrative that they want to push…..now it’s Bachmann..before it was Cain…before that it was Trump.
But you are a smart man.
You know the DMR Iowa Poll showing Mitt Romney at 52/38 FAV/UNFAV is devastating…..
There is a weakness in Mitt’s candidacy and I think you know it.
When TPAW posts a 6% in Iowa it easy for people to make comments about TPAW…however..Mitt’s FAV/UNFAVS are the true story coming out of that poll.
DMR poll…not a PPP poll.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:15 am
Poor Palin fans, at least the Huckaloons had some real polls to hang their hats on, but the Palinnuts have nothing.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:15 am
“I see another ROMBOT making fun of “fly over country”…not surprising.” Yup that is their specialty.
Yep, that’s exactly why we talk up Romney’s strength in states like Colorado and Nevada… sheesh.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:17 am
184, i prefer Huckanut
June 28th, 2011 at 11:17 am
Smack,
Caucus night? That falsely implies that Pawlenty will even have the money to make it to the caucuses. As of now, he’s busy setting himself up for a huge Ames disappointment.
C’mon T-Paw, you show Godfather’s Pizza what you’re made of!
June 28th, 2011 at 11:18 am
http://gop12.thehill.com/
It’s long been known that Ron Carey, a former chief of staff to Michele Bachmann, has been critical of the congresswoman.
But today, he penned an absolutely brutal missive against her.
The Bachmann campaign and congressional offices I inherited were wildly out of control.
Stacks upon stacks of unopened contributions filled the campaign office while thousands of communications from citizens waited for an answer. If she is unable, or unwilling, to handle the basic duties of a campaign or congressional office, how could she possibly manage the magnitude of the presidency?
That’s especially noteworthy, considering that it seems to fit the idea that she’s a little out-of-control and undisciplined.
Carey also gives Tim Pawlenty a significant pat on the back.
I find myself agreeing with Tim Pawlenty and Michele Bachmann on 99 percent of the issues, but the similarities end there.
…. I know Tim Pawlenty very well. He is a family man filled with faith and conservative convictions proven in action. He will make a great president.
Carey was her chief of staff for just 5 months (Feb 2010-July 2010), but has declined to give any reason for his abrupt resignation.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:20 am
Smack, the difference being twofold: one, even with Romney’s fav/unfav split in Iowa he is in first place in the polls, and two, Romney doesn’t need a first place in Iowa. If he takes a silver or a bronze in Iowa, he’ll be just fine. Nationally, his fav/unfav numbers are through the roof (better than Pawlenty’s).
Don’t worry, Romney will be just fine. You really need to focus on figuring out why everybody thinks T-Paw is a likable guy but nobody wants to vote for him to be President.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:21 am
Max Twain,
I gave TPAW another $100.00 last Thursday…so we are set to go.
2007-8 – Romney’s 113 million dollar campaign matched the success of Huckabee’s 16 million dollar campaign.
Congrats.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:26 am
Max, I would hope Romney would be beating Palin in the polls…since she isn’t running. It’s amazing how she still manages to come close or within the moe in some polls…even when she isn’t running. She still managed to ruin Romney’s(the front-runner) announcement day…with a clambake…it’s so funny, I’ll write it twice…with a clambake. She’s hosting a bbq tonight…hopefully Romney won’t have a big policy speech…
June 28th, 2011 at 11:29 am
Matt C,
“Nationally, his fav/unfav numbers are through the roof (better than Pawlenty’s).”
hhhuuuummmmm…….
http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx
Pawlenty 56/13
Romney 53/15
Santroum 50/17
Paul 48/25
Cain 47/14
Bachmann 46/14
Gingrich 45/31
Huntsman 44/24
And this was after TPAW’s New Hampshire Debate debacle.
Yes, TPAW’s top line numbesr need to improve…steeply.
But TPAW’s FAV/UNFAVS are in very good condition…even with his bad week.
TPAW staggered…but did not fall down.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:31 am
JR
Ha,ha,ha,…..
It’s so true and so funny.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:32 am
171 – I noticed that when you make fun of candidates and their supporters you tend to leave out little facts that might ruin your argument. For instance, without McCain, do you really think Giuliani won’t pick up more steam? Giuliani will force Romney to spend money where he otherwise wouldn’t need to…like in NH or NY or California, or NJ or Conn.
Also you fail to mention that Palin(if she runs) could raise a ton of money…easily enough to last until the convention.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:35 am
What will happen to Romney when his opponent has access to lots of money and has bonafide conservative credentials…hmm…I wonder?
June 28th, 2011 at 11:38 am
I wonder if, from now on, Romney will plan his schedule around Palin’s summer activities…I hear she is planning on playing some horse shoes on July 10th…I guess that’s why Romney bowed of the debate.
CLAMBAKE
June 28th, 2011 at 11:47 am
“Your bold and brave swipe at this prediction is also juvenile.” Oh please, don’t give me lectures about being juvenile, you were one of the Romneyites who used to go crying to Pollman whenever you did not get your way.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:49 am
I know I have given you a hard time with Palin, in saying that I will take her seriously only when she hires …someone,…and that is still true…
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Used to be in the dark ages that you didn’t have highly paid consultants that tell you how to think and what you say. That is what Palin will try to replicate. Her campaign will be along the lines of what tea party candidates have done. A heavy emphasis on grassroots rather than highly paid consultants.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:56 am
So the values of putting Planned Parenthood members on the court and imposing windfall taxes are the founding values of Reagan? Huhhh?
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Maybe you need to go back to school and learn the difference between a tax and royalties. The state of Alaska is entitled to royalties for minerals taken from state land. She did not have the option of selecting any judge and they were all liberal.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:57 am
Smack,
Romney Leads Field in Favorability
And really, a 53/15 split, within the MoE of Pawlenty’s, is more proof that Romney doesn’t have a favorability issue. Here we have two national polls showing people like Romney. Just as much as, or more than, Pawlenty.
The major difference being that they see Mitt as Presidential and do not see Pawlenty that way. (Yet.) That’s the question your campaign has to wrestle with if you want to get anywhere. Name ID isn’t an excuse anymore.
June 28th, 2011 at 11:59 am
News flash: PPP doesn’t matter. I won’t even post them front page here (and haven’t for quite some time now). They are ridiculous KosKid / SEIU propaganda and always out of line with regards to reputable polling organizations.
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Because you perceive them as anti-Romney then we won’t post them anymore. Or is it that they still poll Palin and it shows that Palin and maybe Bachmann are a threat to Romney.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:08 pm
Clambake.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
TCR its not a rash generalization. I have gay male friends and they All
June 28th, 2011 at 12:14 pm
oops,,, they ALL have this psychotic, ignorant, unreasonable hatred towards her.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
No, Franklin, because they are consistently ridiculously off from every other reputable pollster out there. They are a low budget hack organization run by an openly-admitted Democratic activist who cheerleads for Democrats in political races that he is polling. They are supported by DailyKos and the SEIU, two absurdly nutty liberal organizations.
I will not post them because they are a mockery of the polling process and industry, regardless of whether or not Romney is leading in them or not. Other FPP’s can (and most likely will) post the PPP polls here at Race. This is a personal decision, not an official website decision.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:29 pm
OJ, Since you’re making stuff up about me, here’s some stuff I made up about you.
You wear overalls and wipe your nose on your sleeves. Your fingernails are unwashed and your rusty truck is unregistered. You think of Denny’s as gourmet. Your tv is constantly on. There are dishes in the sink from last year. There are no books in your home. You last used toothpaste when Reagan was president.
I have carefully reviewed your posts and find sa much evidence for each of these statements in what you’ve written thus far, as you have evidence that I’ve ever complained to anybody about someone else’s posts to have somebody who does . . . what? Ban them? I have no idea.
Too bad. There was a chance we could be best friends, but now . . .
June 28th, 2011 at 12:36 pm
Matt, I think what Franklin was referring to is the fact that many Romney supporters and Race regulars have used the results of past PPP polls to ridicule, both, Palin and her supporters…to many, they were legitimate back then…but when Palin does well in PPP polls, they are conveniently left-tilting Soros lovers…talk to your camp and make up your minds.
Oh Yeah…I forgot to mention…
CLAMBAKE
June 28th, 2011 at 12:41 pm
The proprtionality rule does not apply to SC. If there is a primary then they will likely make it winner take all at the CD and statewide level.
In a way Palin-Romney could resemble Reagan-Ford in 1976. Ford had all the institutional support and the organization as well. Yet Reagan came up 60 votes short.
The proportionality rule could very well apply only to the 10 delegates each state gets statewide. Also the rules state that if a candidate gets 50% statewide then they can be given on a winner take all basis. That is a real possibility in the rural southern states that are scheduled for March.
Romney did very poorly in these states in 2008.
Also a number of Romney states are moving from WTA to more conservative friendly delegate allocations. Washington state has done away with their primary and will go to a caucus. The difference in that in 2008, McCain won the primary 2-1 yet beat Huckabee in the caucus 25-24. Massachusetts is in March and may be forced into a caucus because the money is supposedly not there for a primary. NY has done away with their WTA primary and will have proprtional representation at the district level.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
jersey – well, I obviously cannot speak for every Romney supporter, but I think I have been overly clear here that even when PPP had good results for Romney, I did not trust them at all. That’s my personal opinion. Others are free to think what they want.
June 28th, 2011 at 12:57 pm
“Too bad. There was a chance we could be best friends, but now . . .” To be blunt, it is an honor not to be your friend. For the record, let’s just say I do not say that about everybody.
June 28th, 2011 at 1:05 pm
I don’t see PPP as being any better or worse than ABC/Washington Post, CBS/NY Times or NBC/WSJ. These college polls tend to be the worse. PPP does
two things that are interesting. They provide crosstabs and they do poll both Bachmann and Palin. It does gie some insights as long as you are aware of the limitations. For example, the Oregon poll shows that Palin is pretty much even with Bachmann and Romney could potentially have issues once the conservative side of the field is whittled down.
June 28th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
Ohio Joe
There is no reason for anyone to care that you don’t like them. You are the most closed-minded jerk on this site besides Adam.
June 28th, 2011 at 1:42 pm
I agree with Matt C. PPP is the worst polling organization out there. the other that comes to mind it arg.
June 28th, 2011 at 1:48 pm
171. Are we back to Rudy again this week? Last week it was Perry. Who’s the flavor of the week next week?
June 28th, 2011 at 1:58 pm
MassCon,
“(Ohio Joe) You are the most closed-minded jerk on this site besides Adam.”
That’s only because I’ve been a little off my game lately. Everyone goes through slumps. It’ll come back.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:07 pm
Thanks for the compliment Massachesetts Con. It is especially nice to here that kind of stuff from new people like you.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:11 pm
Hmmm, after his announcement, and her clambake that supposedly ruined it (according to the media that is terrified of Romney’s electability) Romney opened up a massive 30+ point lead in New Hampshire.
So how exactly did the quitter with the dreadful numbers ruin his day???
June 28th, 2011 at 2:14 pm
Palinistas require a certain level of detachment from reality.
Team Romney is so giddy that Palin/Bachmann might both end up in this field that they can hardly contain themselves.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
Then why were all the Romneyites Whining about the clambake? You guys are just too funny.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Who’s whining, Palin can have all the clambakes and movies and reality shows her simple little heart desires. Not of that will amount to jack squat, and it certainly won’t stop Romney.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:34 pm
OJ Educational experience: The word all means everybody. It is inclusive. That means laadeedaadee everybody. In order to use the word “all” properly and honestly, in order to use that word without being dishonest, yes, to avoid lying, absolutely everyone who is for Romney on this site has to have complained in some fashion or other about the clambake incident.
I didn’t. There you go.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:36 pm
“OJ generalizes all the time.”
See? There’s an example of what I’m talking about.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
What the hell have you been drinking or smoking now Watchinitall? What you just said is a bunch of mumbo jumbo. Try again when you are not as high as a kite.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:43 pm
Are all kites high?
June 28th, 2011 at 2:44 pm
You made the statement that all the Romneyites whined about the clambake. I didn’t, and I’m a Rombot, so your statement is untrue. In fact, most of us didn’t say anything about it because we couldn’t care less.
Palin’s poll before the bus tour/clambake in NH 5%
Palin’s poll after the bus tour/clambake in NH 5%
No matter how many clambakes she holds, it’s fine with me. Romney announced the same day in NH, so what? It’s a free country. I don’t know of any rule that it’s rude or out of line to campaign in the same state on the same day. I don’t think Romney minded either.
You’re looking to be offended, how can anyone stop you from being offended? If I sneezed it would offend you. That’s how some people are. Did three or four people make an issue of this? Then say, “Three or four of you folks made an issue of this!” How hard is that?
June 28th, 2011 at 2:46 pm
224. No. And if I’m high right now, then being high has been way overhyped all these years and I never knew! Dang. One less thing to anticipate.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:48 pm
scratch that off your bucket list…..
June 28th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
I think all generalizations are wrong.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:50 pm
…..except that one.
June 28th, 2011 at 2:53 pm
Next on the list, Nebraska!
June 28th, 2011 at 3:01 pm
I’ve always wanted to ski Nebraska.
June 28th, 2011 at 3:05 pm
Always?
June 28th, 2011 at 3:08 pm
Almost always.
Well,most of the time.
Okay, only 3-4 fleeting moments when I was flying a kite.
June 28th, 2011 at 5:20 pm
CLAMBAKE showed how powerful Sarah Palin is and how insignificant and weak
boring stiff Willard Rockefeller Romney is.
She was huge headline on 1st page and Mitt was at the bottom of 3rd page,
and that was his biggest day,announcement day.
June 28th, 2011 at 6:52 pm
144
who was going to turn on their set to watch Pawlenty debate Cain and Huntsman. It was no show.
but they’d tune in to watch romney debate perry.
June 28th, 2011 at 7:57 pm
TEX,
So the LSM determines who is powerful and who is weak based on where they put the headline?
I guess I just don’t have as much faith in the media’s judgment as you do……