Fox News 2012 Presidential Survey
Republican Nomination
- Mitt Romney 19% (14%)
- Mike Huckabee 17% (15%)
- Sarah Palin 9% (12%)
- Donald Trump 8% (11%)
- Newt Gingrich 7% (7%)
- Ron Paul 7% (3%)
- Herman Cain 4% (2%)
- Tim Pawlenty 3% (4%)
- Michele Bachmann 3% (2%)
- Rick Santorum 3% (2%)
- Mitch Daniels 2% (3%)
- Jon Huntsman 1% (1%)
- Gary Johnson 1% (1%)
- Fred Karger 1%
- Roy Moore 1%
- Buddy Roemer 0%
- Someone else 1% (1%)
- Too soon to say 9% (5%)
- Don’t know 4% (8%)
Note: Rudy Giuliani was included in the April 3-5 poll, and received 9 percent of the vote.
Favorable / Unfavorable {Net}
- Barack Obama 53% / 44% {+9%}
- Donald Trump 33% / 57% {-24%}
How proud are you to have Barack Obama as president?
- Extremely 22%
- Very 19%
- Somewhat 24%
- Not at all 33%
How proud would you be to have Mike Huckabee as president?
- Extremely 5%
- Very 13%
- Somewhat 29%
- Not at all 38%
Among Republicans
- Extremely 8%
- Very 26%
- Somewhat 42%
- Not at all 15%
How proud would you be to have Mitt Romney as president?
- Extremely 4%
- Very 11%
- Somewhat 31%
- Not at all 39%
Among Republicans
- Extremely 9%
- Very 20%
- Somewhat 42%
- Not at all 16%
How proud would you be to have Donald Trump as president?
- Extremely 3%
- Very 7%
- Somewhat 23%
- Not at all 62%
Among Republicans
- Extremely 5%
- Very 10%
- Somewhat 35%
- Not at all 46%
Regardless of whether you would vote for Donald Trump or not, do you like his straight talk and the message he sends to the world, or not?
- Yes, trying to hide something 33%
- No, not trying to hide something 61%
Among Democrats
- Yes, trying to hide something 12%
- No, not trying to hide something 85%
Among Republicans
- Yes, trying to hide something 58%
- No, not trying to hide something 35%
Among Independents
- Yes, trying to hide something 36%
- No, not trying to hide something 56%
Among Moderates
- Yes, trying to hide something 17%
- No, not trying to hide something 70%
Among Tea Party Supporters
- Yes, trying to hide something 66%
- No, not trying to hide something 26%
Survey of 911 registered voters, including a subsample of 322 Republicans, was conducted by Anderson Robbins Research (D)/Shaw & Company Research (R) April 25-27, 2011. The margin of error is +/- 3 percentage points; +/- 6 percentage points among Republican voters. Results from the poll conducted April 3-5, 2011 are in parentheses.
–Data compilation and analysis courtesy of The Argo Journal.
April 29th, 2011 at 12:49 am
Nice . . .
Hope the “Trump bump” is really over.
April 29th, 2011 at 12:50 am
Two man race . . . and I LOVE my guy’s chances in such a race. Hope Huck decides to run
April 29th, 2011 at 1:30 am
Sarah Palin has dropped three points in less than a month and is now in single digits in a major poll — the FOX poll, no less.
Can she recover? Anything is possible, but I am afraid that I just don’t see it.
April 29th, 2011 at 4:51 am
I’m with you, Jeff. Even if we dispense with talk of “front-runner,” we can look at the growing consistency of support for Romney, especially in key early contests, and be VERY enthusiastic. He has done a great job of building that support in the past 2 years especially, laying low, picking his spots to offer his opinion.
I like that Mitt is showing staying power in IA and SC. I like that he is showing strength in NH, NV, and FL. Obviously, we are about to escalate the campaign. We are but 2 1/2 weeks away from the Vegas telethon, followed by major fund-raisers in major cities across the country. What we see in the Q2 FEC report will tell us a great deal about the kind of resources Romney may have going into Super Tuesday. I betting that he will report a lot more than $25 million raised.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:23 am
I’m going to say this once – but this poll confirms my theory that Fred Karger should be included in the SC debates, especially since Roemer’s in and doesn’t poll as well as Karger when they are both actually included in a poll. 1% was the cut off.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:27 am
I also find it fascinating that Cain, T-Paw, Bachmann, and Santorum are effectively tied in this national poll. That’s kind of a big deal for Cain supporters.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:37 am
Is Soros’ pick Huckabee still polling this well? Let’s hear it for the progressive republican movement!
April 29th, 2011 at 7:38 am
Matthew . . . I think it has to be an average of 1% in national polls. Roemer and Karger still don’t qualify I don’t think. And I really hope NOT for Karger since he’s just in there to muddy the water.
Your point in #6 is well taken though. Cain has more going for him than most “fringe” candidates.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:43 am
Is the rumor true that Huck has released his Iowa and SC peeps so they can move on to other campaigns?
April 29th, 2011 at 7:49 am
#8 – I see your point, but this is also one of the first polls to include Roemer and Karger as candidates. It’s difficult to have an average of 1% when you’re not included. If Karger continues to be included in other people’s polls, I think we’ll continue to see him polling at 1%. Again, I’m not a Karger supporter – but I think that plus him filing as a candidate specifically in SC (for $25,000) is enough of a reason to allow him into that debate. Okay…threadjack over.
And yes, I think Cain is picking up some momentum – he could turn into a Steve Forbes style candidate and shock others if he’s able to fundraise.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:08 am
So today is the Fox news SC debate deadline to sign up By 5 pm for next Thursday debate which candidates go to it that is the question!?
April 29th, 2011 at 8:10 am
Ahhh… between the Iowa poll yesterday, the New Hampshire poll this morning, and now this poll, it’s a good time to be a Romney guy.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:16 am
greg,
I think they moved the deadline until May 3rd, I could be wrong on tha tbut that is what I thought I heard. I believe they are trying to give Newt more time to file so he can show up at the debate.
Yesterday was a great day for TPAW inthe polls. Nevada, with all candidates included had TPAW at 8%, his highest mark yet. In Iowa there was a poll that had TPAW at 8% among GOP voters, his highest mark as of yet.
This Fox News poll is a bit disappointing but the National polls are going to always lag behind the (First 4)state polls when it comes to TPAW.
Trump is done.
If Huckabee doesn’t run…..Palin is going to have to take a second look.
Newt has to run…don’t he?
Daniels……please……please….I beg you…..stay out….!
April 29th, 2011 at 8:33 am
Still Hurting,
“we can look at the growing consistency of support for Romney, especially in key early contests”
I think that consistency just means he’s found a (temporary?) bottom. Or as they say in the markets, “a support level”. But he, like Huck and (especially) Palin, is well off his all time highs. But yes, he has been stable the past couple months, unlike Palin, who continue to plumb new lows.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:36 am
Romney’s floor is more stable then that of Huck & Palin….congrats.
If Romney is the true front runner…..what a weak front runner he is.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:43 am
Republican gun show, 2012 edition
4/29/11 8:03 AM
• The National Rifle Association is holding its annual convention this weekend in Pittsburgh. POLITICO’s James Hohmann is on the scene.
• Newt Gingrich, Rick Santorum, Herman Cain and John Bolton are all speaking Friday afternoon. Mike Huckabee is speaking at the group’s Saturday night dinner.
• The NRA expects 70,000 activists to be on the scene.
• “The truth is this election is going to be decided in all the big gun and hunting states,” NRA chief Wayne LaPierre told POLITICO.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:47 am
So Romney is now:
*Tied for first in Iowa in two polls
*Leading New Hampshire by 15+
*Leading Nevada by double digits (depending on the scenario)
*Within 1% of first place in South Carolina in two polls
*Leading Florida by nearly 20 points
Additionally, he is the only GOP candidate who flips Nevada and New Hampshire and he has now led nationally in two polls as well.
I’ll think we Romney folks are okay with this weak standing of his…
April 29th, 2011 at 8:47 am
Romney continues to rise, leading nationally, now co-leading Iowa and SC, and holding landslide leads in NH, NV, and FL. Those who say we don’t have a frontrunner are deliberately misleading the public. Romney is in a stronger position than McCain or Giuliani were in 2008, and barring the entry of Daniels/Christie/Ryan, will likely run away with the nomination.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:48 am
And then there were two..
April 29th, 2011 at 8:54 am
Max,
“Romney continues to rise”
I wouldn’t say that. He’s just stopped sinking. Huck has slid the last couple weeks, while Palin’s slid the last couple years. So I guess relatively speaking (if we discount Trump), it’s sort of like a rise.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:54 am
Another beautiful morning with a brand new leader among the ALSO-RANS
•Herman Cain 4% (2%)
•Michele Bachmann 3% (2%)
•Rick Santorum 3% (2%)
•Tim Pawlenty 3% (4%)
•Mitch Daniels 2% (3%)
•Jon Huntsman 1% (1%)
•Gary Johnson 1% (1%)
•Fred Karger 1%
•Roy Moore 1%
•Buddy Roemer 0%
April 29th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Max,
“Those who say we don’t have a frontrunner are deliberately misleading the public.”
We have a candidate who is a little more likely to win than others, but I don’t know if that qualifies for what most people think of when one says “frontrunner,” when that candidate is still only a 1 in 4 chance.
April 29th, 2011 at 8:56 am
Who thinks Huck will get a very nice bump up in the polls WHEN he officially announces and Palin officially drops out?
Show of hands, please
April 29th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Besides the Palin lion’s share moving over to the Huck side, of course.. I’ve also got my eyes on that Roy Moore sweet 1% as well.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:01 am
Craig, I expect Huckabee will get about as much of a bump as Fred Thompson did back in 2007… roughly, say, 0 points. Heh.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:03 am
Max Twain,
“Romney is in a stronger position than McCain or Giuliani were in 2008….”
In what universe?
In May of 2007 McCain & Giuliani were polling in the high 20′s and low 30′s. In Gallup Romney was at 7% & Huck was at 2%.
I got to tell you something that may shock you…but here it is………Romney’s 19%..17%…21%…does not impress me or any other supporter of a candidate who is in single numbers.
PPP poll in Nevada—-again….over 60% of the GOP voters would not support a candidate who implemented a state level mandated health insurance.
Do you know what the ROMBOTS answer to this is?…..it’s, see, see, see, this issue isn’t hurting Mitt..see…see..
What you all fail to notice is most people do not know what Romney did…but believe me they will learn, and when they do they will go heavily against Romney.
Romney is a weak kitten who will be TPAWED at a date that is coming soon.
Hey Mitt, why don’t you show up in SC on May 5th?
What, you afraid to talk about MASSCARE?
Weak kitten…weak kitten indeed.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:03 am
coming from Fox, I’d say Mitt’s percentage in real time is a bit higher than they are reporting. Gotta keep hucks ratings from dumping out.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:05 am
And you’ve gotta think Trump’s bunch of fans are comin’ over to the good side when The Donald releases his minions to his “favorite” Republican candidate, Huckabee!!
•Sarah Palin 9% (12%)
•Donald Trump 8% (11%)
April 29th, 2011 at 9:07 am
Well, Craig. You had better hope that he gets a nice bump, a very nice bump. Otherwise…
April 29th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Matt.20,
While I will be the first to admit that the spattering of good news for Romney is hardly time to proclaim him the all powerful ‘Frontrunner’, I would not characterize what is occurring to Mitt as merely “ceasing to sink”. Nearly all his movement in the polls has been up, as Max alluded to — not sideways.
However, it could well be statistical noise. We will know better in a month or two.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:13 am
Craig,
You can’t see me, but I’m raising my hand. If Huck announces that he is running (which he won’t) and Palin drops out, Huck will rise in the polls. It won’t be anything shocking, but we will see a ripple. Once people start dropping out of the race they will galvanize to the last candidate standing vs. Romney….
…and that candidate will win..be it….TPAW,HUCK,Daniles or Newt.
AMERICA, The Land Of P(aw)LENTY
April 29th, 2011 at 9:15 am
Another great week in Huckland as the doubters continue their silly mission to beg everyone to believe he’s not even running HOPEFULLY lowering Mike’s support in the polls. Yet he rises in this new Fox poll by 12%.
Uh-oh…wait till he officialy anounces in June perhaps????? What then?
He’s not telling except to say to us all, once again, “My race, my pace.”
April 29th, 2011 at 9:17 am
26.
Perfect, my friend.
You’ve gotta love our Smacks for his relentless crusade against Romney. It’s a thing of beauty.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:18 am
marK,
“Nearly all his movement in the polls has been up”
Really? I don’t know the last time I’ve seen him breach 20% in a natonal poll, or Midwest or Southern state (excepting Florida- barely).
April 29th, 2011 at 9:24 am
Matt,
I don’t follow your point. Since when does stating that Romney’s general movement in the polls have something to do with breaching 20%? If he did that, I would be more inclined to call him the frontrunner (though I would prefer the 30% barrier for that), but I’ve already said it is too early for that.
So what is your point?
April 29th, 2011 at 9:25 am
RCP doesn’t have a graph up, but these numbers for Mitt look like they’ve been flopping around in a range since last Fall. In fact, he hasn’t broken 20 in any national poll since 4/4.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html
April 29th, 2011 at 9:25 am
#35 “…general movement in the poll being up…“
April 29th, 2011 at 9:26 am
marK,
My point is that he’s not really “rising”. He’s simply stopped falling. Palin continues to fall, and Huck has slid lately. That’s why Romney is showing (relatively) better in polls.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Folks, REAL CLEAR POLITICS says we don’t have one front runner any more…
We Have Two:
April 29th, 2011 at 9:26 am
So, you are saying it could be statistical noise? Didn’t I already say that in #30?
April 29th, 2011 at 9:27 am
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_presidential_nomination-1452.html
April 29th, 2011 at 9:29 am
Oops, Matt beat me to it in his #36.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:30 am
marK,
BTW, regarding Mitt’s strategy, do you think he should employ a more “Damn the torpedos” message- like Daniels at CPAC? Or do you think he should stick to a more boilerplate script, like his own CPAC speech? Something in between?
April 29th, 2011 at 9:32 am
marK,
“So, you are saying it could be statistical noise?”
19 seems to be a “resistence level” Mitt has bounced against for a while now. Almost all his national polls have been in the 13-19 range for some time now. So I don’t see hitting his resistence level (again) as evidence that he is “rising.”
Once he starts consistently hitting mid-20s again, I’ll say he’s rising.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:32 am
Craig,
Do you know that there is a poll that shows MASSCARE at approval of 84%?…did ya…did ya…
How many times did we hear that from our Romney Supporter friends?
That ‘truth” went poooooooooooooffffffffff in midair
The same thing will happen with Romney’s poll numbers when he has to answer direct questions on why Romneycare is hated by the GOP voters in MASS.
Romney,
I see you are avoiding TPAW in South Carolina come next Thursday. I guess you can do that now because you are sooooo strong at 19% and TPAW is 3PAW…
Will see you buddy…will see you soon.
I know what your campaign manager is telling you…..longer you avoid TPAW in the debates the better you will be.
Run away Mitt, run away.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:33 am
But like Telly and Tex who will soon be here to tell us…
“Hey, We don’t need no stinkin’ numbers!!”
April 29th, 2011 at 9:33 am
Well, low to mid 20s.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Craig,
TPAW at 4% now??…YEAH!
A little better then what Huck was doing in”08″ and a little worse then Mitt was doing.
But Romney doesn’t need to worry about TPAW..
…I mean TPAW went from 1% to 8% in the PPP Nevada Poll from January to April…
I mean there is no way TPAW will ever hit double digits…..
HOGWASH!
TPAW SURGE CONTINUES.
South Carolina, May 5th Debate.
MUST SEE TV!!!
TPAW goes after Obama!
April 29th, 2011 at 9:39 am
Like Franklin says..
What would Mitt’s numbers be if about everyone was buying the notion that he wasn’t running but intead re-upping with Bain?
Same as Palin’s at 9%? I guess.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:42 am
I have to agree with 31 which makes me sick cause normally Smack doesnt make any sense to me at all….but really whoever comes out of the pack to duke it out with Romney will end up being the nominee. Romney has too much liberal baggage to win it, but right name name recognition is high enough to look good in the polls. Same could be said about my guy (Huck) I suppose. We have a strong field. I hope that in the end we can all support the nominee and not see anyone branching off and running as an independent or something stupid.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:44 am
Smacks,
You raise another excellent point as usual.
While Huck is stuck at Fox through June due to his contract not ending till then…
Why, oh why is Romney so scared to debate T-Paw and the rest of ‘em next week?????
Look, Mitt: The bad RomneyCare numbers are now out there! Face. The. Music. Quit hiding.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:47 am
Whether you’re in the teens or in the 30s its kind of hard to claim front-runner status when you’re lead isn’t beyond the MOE. Anyway Polls at this point may be useful in telling us who won’t win (Palin), but they’ve proved entirely useless in proving who will win.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:49 am
If Palin announces a run…her numbers will rise.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:50 am
I’d be willing to bet…a large sum of money…that if Palin runs…Palin wins the nomination.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:53 am
And I’m sure you won’t have a hard time finding takers for that bet either.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:53 am
52, Palin is still polling in 3rd or 4th…there are plenty of people lower than her in the polls. If Huckabee decides not to run…where do you think his support will go if Palin’s in? If Huckabee does run…he still does not have the money to run a successful campaign against Romney or Palin. In fact, with her grassroot support…it’s quite possible that Romney will have to dig deep into his personal bank account this time around…just to place second or third.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:54 am
There is a New Iowa Poll out
http://iowans4palin.blogspot.com/2011/04/poll-no-bachmann-momentum-in-iowa.html
I find this one interesting.
April 29th, 2011 at 9:55 am
If only I had a large sum of money…
April 29th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Craig,
I would love to see Mitt up there on the debate stage going….
..well..
..well..
“There was a poll out there just the other day that had MASSCARE at 84% approval”
Bbbaaaawwaaahhhhaaaaa!
The day is coming fast where Mitt will have to be on the same stage as the other candidates.
Santorum
Gingrich
Paul………crushing Romney on his state level mandate health insurance policy…hehhhheeeeeeehheeee
April 29th, 2011 at 9:56 am
Matt.43:“BTW, regarding Mitt’s strategy, do you think he should employ a more “Damn the torpedos” message- like Daniels at CPAC? Or do you think he should stick to a more boilerplate script, like his own CPAC speech? Something in between?”
Because it’s been a while since I have been invited to his strategy meetings, I cannot say for certain what his strategy is or will be. My gut feeling is that he will continue hammer on the broad issues and make occasion stabs into the specifics.generally work.
Mitt has stated a number of times that one of his biggest mistakes in 2008 is that he answered every question put to him. He discovered that it allowed other people to control his message.
Mitt is not the sort of person who makes the same mistake twice. So he will continue to put out the message he wants to put out.
An executive’s main job is to set the big goals. If they ride herd on all the details, they will quickly bog down, and their valuable time will be wasted on items that could easily be delegated. On the other hand, if they don’t keep a close eye on things, loose cannons can cause problems ala Iran-Contra during the Reagan administration.
Since Mitt Romney is an extremely effective executive, and he found that answering every little thing hurt him in 2008, and since he seldom makes the same mistake twice, I think it safe to say that his rhetorical strategy will likely match my guess.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:00 am
57.
Yesterday’s news.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:01 am
Grrrrr,
I will be so glad when we get an ‘edit’ feature.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:01 am
56, People being lower than Palin in the Polls is not an accomplishment for her. One needs to consider the percent of people who are familiar with the canidate name who support them. A lot more people are alot more familiar with Palin than Pawlenty or Daniels.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:05 am
Tele,
Thank you for posting that again.
Among GOP voters (those who actually vote in the Iowa GOP caucus)
Romney 24%
Huckabee* 23%
Palin 15%
Gingrich 9%
Pawlenty 8%
Paul 2%
Barbour* 1%
Daniels 0%
Bachmann 0%
Romney numbers look very good in this poll.
Huck needs to decide fast.
Palin, her best numbers yet in Iowa when comparing rest of field…Palin needs to get up here as well if running.
Pawlenty, best numbers for him in Iowa which matches his 8% in Nevada. Creeping toward double digits in early state polls.
Bachmann, this is no doubt an outlier poll for her. Bachmann does have some support in the state. Bachmann has made no hires in the last 3 weeks. Not running.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:08 am
# jerseyrepublican Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 9:50 am
I’d be willing to bet…a large sum of money…that if Palin runs…Palin wins the nomination.
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I would take that bet and give you odds, (except I don’t gamble).
April 29th, 2011 at 10:09 am
Mark,
I’m not sure America would ever elect a Forbes 500 executive anyway.
Hey, just who is the better CEO, Billionaire Trump or millionaire Romney? That’s too easy.
I gotta say Donald is absolutely right when he said earlier this week, “I’m big business, Rove’s guy, Romney is small business.”
April 29th, 2011 at 10:10 am
jersey,
“Palin is still polling in 3rd or 4th…there are plenty of people lower than her in the polls”
Trouble is….
1. All those people lower than her have significantly lower name ID. For instance, a recent poll showed something like 80% of respondents didn’t know enough about TPaw to form a judgement.
2. Palin polled upper 60s from Ras in Nov. 08 after the election. So her descent has been long, steep, and unarrested. Sometimes it’s not just where you are, but also where you were.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:11 am
64.
My son graduated from The U of Iowa with a political science degree.
He was always involved in this Iowa poll while in school. It’s a pretty scientific poll. Kind of interesting to hear how they do it.
I give it a lot of credence, as far as being a snapshot of the electorate in Iowa right now.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:13 am
67.
BINGO X2!
April 29th, 2011 at 10:14 am
Romney had been at 60% in Florida and now his numbers there are barely 20%.
Everyone has dropped, the campaign hasn’t even started yet.
Yes, Palin has to change people’s perception.
It’s easily done.
It sounds to me like some of you guys are trying to convince yourselves about her chances.
Because, deep down, you know.
Everyone knows.
She is inevitable.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:14 am
marK,
I’m still invited to those sessions. Are you still checking your e-mail?
I’m not suggesting Mitt answer every question or get bogged down in detail. Mitch wasn’t super detailed in his CPAC speech, but he did speak in bold terms and lay it out there, staking his brand on a single idea.
Let me rephrase, should Mitt’s stump speech look more like Mitch’s CPAC speech or his own?
April 29th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Telly,
“It’s easily done.”
No, it’s not. Ask W. Or Newt. Or Cheney. Or Jesse Jackson. Or Jerry Brown. Or any number of politicos who got negatively branded.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:16 am
Smacks,
You have to wait seven more weeks. So sorry.
Huck said 15 times now on Fox News to please do the early debates without him..
And quit postponing them!
April 29th, 2011 at 10:16 am
tele,
I graduated from St. Cloud State with a Political Science degree many..many…many years ago..and we did polls..and St.Cloud State still does polls for Minnesota races, Their polls are much more accurate then the Minneapolis Star&Tribune polls.
College polls can be very accurate….and not very accurate.
Iowa is a state that Palin can do well in…but she needs to get in Iowa. We have talked about this before and I know you are on the same page with me on this..
If Palin is running…if she is truly runnning… she needs to be physically in Iowa..not by facebook.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:19 am
Just for fun..read below,
Rasmussen Report, April 29th
Chris Christie and Mitt Romney are nearly dead-even in the 2012 Republican presidential race if top contenders Mike Huckabee, Sarah Palin and Donald Trump end up not running as many consider likely or stumble in the early going.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely GOP Primary Voters shows ex-Massachusetts governor Romney earning 27% support, while Christie, the current governor of New Jersey, picks up 26% of the vote. Paul Ryan, the Wisconsin congressman whose controversial long-term budget plan shook up the spending debate in Washington, runs a distant third with 12%.
Another former governor, Tim Pawlenty of Minnesota, earns eight percent (8%) of the primary vote, followed by Indiana Governor Mitch Daniels (4%), Texas Governor Rick Perry (3%), and Jon Huntsman, ex-governor of Utah and just retired U.S. ambassador to China, with two percent (2%). Six percent (6%) prefer some other candidate than the ones on this list, and 12% are undecided. “
April 29th, 2011 at 10:20 am
Smack,
Exactly. I think Facebook has done Palin more harm than good. Yes, it’s put her in the spotlight, but often in a negative way, and she has the ability to be in the spotlight without Facebook.
But I think she’s a good retail politician who can still draw a crowd. If she has any hope of resurrecting her reputation and image, it ain’t gonna be on Facebook.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:22 am
jerseyrepublican Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 9:50 am
I’d be willing to bet…a large sum of money…that if Palin runs…Palin wins the nomination.
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Jersey, Im definitely in on that one. What do you consider “a large sum”?? How about $2500. That would help fund some Packers season tickets for me:)
April 29th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Palin is running, imho…………
In the YEAR 2020 against Vice President Marco Rubio.
Ummm… good luck with that, Sarah
April 29th, 2011 at 10:24 am
Matt, it’s way too early to for anyone to honestly say that Palin cannot win the nomination…especially when a majority of the reporting states that she probably isn”t running. If she announces a run, her numbers will instantly approve. The problem with someone like Pawlenty is that the base already knows who he is…at least the hardcore base that lend the hardcore support and he doesn’t have any of it. Unless he plans on pulling a McCain which would be near impossible due to his lack of name recognition…he is pretty much a non-starter. As for Daniels…who knows?
April 29th, 2011 at 10:25 am
$2500…why not a million?
April 29th, 2011 at 10:25 am
Craig –
Can I find humor in your statement the Mitt is hiding from the field when your candidate can’t/won’t make a choice at this time???
If Mitt is hiding what is Huck doing?
April 29th, 2011 at 10:27 am
Huckarubio,
The Packers are also his favorite team!
(Of course, we are waaaaaaaay too small of a city out here in Cali to support NFL football. That city being Los Angeles.)
April 29th, 2011 at 10:28 am
Facebook is just a medium. The MSM actually has to quote Facebook now because Palin decided to take her message around the reporters and right to the people. I’m not sure how it has hurt her?
April 29th, 2011 at 10:30 am
Hey, just who is the better CEO, Billionaire Trump or millionaire Romney? That’s too easy.
Really Craig?? Are you basing your judgement of “who is the better CEO” on the amount of $ each one has??
The paltry swipes at Romney are lowering in standard.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:30 am
A week ago TPAW called on the Obama administration to recall the ambassador of Syria. Now Rubio is doing the same today.
On every single issue the two communicate the same message.
Budget deal compromise – vote no
Debt ceiling – do not raise..sequence spending.
Mediacare/cade reform…change system of payment
Lybia – no fly zone early on…Military mission must have regime change in it…limited use of U.S special forces if needed..NEOCON
Defense Spending – do not cut at this time.
I know these guys have a relationship..everybody knows this but I think its getting quite clear whats going on here.
Don’t be surprised if the TEA PARTY Senator from Florida endorses the TPAWTY candidate in this race.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:32 am
Palin is the runningest running runner of all running history.
I imagine when she wins Iowa, everyone on here will be saying, of course we always knew she was a strong campaigner, etc, etc.
You guys are making a mistake of comparing her to ordinary politicians. She is not. You will see.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:33 am
Ben,
Huck is fullfilling his contract at Fox News. (Ends this June.) He works for a living unlike some other candidates.
What’s Romney’s problem with attending the debate? Is it the FCC? Is it his mortgage? Is it the other guys up on the stage?
Look Mitt, don’t be soooooo afraid!! Perhaps RomneyCare won’t even come up or be mentioned at all in the debates.
As The Donald always says, “forgetaboutit!”
April 29th, 2011 at 10:37 am
Ben,
Smile
April 29th, 2011 at 10:39 am
I’m not upset – I find it humorous.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:39 am
80.jerseyrepublican Says:
April 29th, 2011 at 10:25 am
$2500…why not a million?
Ummm, if I had a million dollars I wouldnt be wasting my time posting on this site….sorry, but its the truth. $2500 and I am in.
Craig, is your son still close to CM? LOL. A Packer win in 2011 and a Huck win in 2012?? Sounds good to me!
April 29th, 2011 at 10:40 am
jersey,
“I’m not sure how (Facebook) has hurt her?”
It feeds the image- fairly or not- that she is shallow, substanceless, and self-aborbed, just like Facebook.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:41 am
91. Or, at least that is the narrative that is spoon fed to sheep.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Image the reaction, when she demonstrates she is not shallow, substanceless, and self-absorbed.
Boom
There it is.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:43 am
Ben,
If you think Romney is a better CEO than Trump, just say so. It will just be your opinion. No big deal.
I think Gates and Buffet were/are better than both of them combined. And I’m not voting for them EITHER.
Seriously, I want at least an an eight year governor like Huck, Pawlenty, or Daniels, etc…
No half or one term quitters this time, PLEASE! And no Congressmen or Congresswomen either need apply.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:45 am
Anyone that thinks Trump is a better executive than Romney has no idea what they are talking about, and should just be ignored.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:46 am
Trump is a fraud.
He is no “CEO”, he’s a carnival barker who knows how to manipulate the system.
He is a symptom of the problem (crony capitalism) and has no clue about what this country needs.
I’m not a Romney fan, but he is 1000% better than Trump.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:47 am
95. I agree Rombot.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:48 am
Has Mitt even tried to earn money in the past decade? A wealth comparison to Trump is silly.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:49 am
#86 – You risk becoming delusional, better watch it. No offense intended, just some advice. I’m a Romney fan, but I never want to be a delusional fanatic. Just saying. In the end, whatever keeps rocks your boat and keeps you happy. I like Sarah Palin too… I just think that Romney is better.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:50 am
59
You think Ron Paul will bash Romney on his state-level health care plan? HAHAHA!!! Ron Paul is more in favor of states’ rights than anyone else! This is what he would say:
“Well, I would be more apt to support a plan that gets government out of health care entirely. Medicare is unconstitutional, so is Social Security. But Governor Romney’s plan is a state plan, and if Massachusetts wanted it, they could have it. It wouldn’t be my approach, and I think The Governor is not a Conservative, nor is anyone else her but myself.”
Also, Newt has defended Romney on health care very strongly. Youtube please.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:52 am
Huckarubio,
Still great friends. My son also played against Nick Barnett in the CIF playoffs. (Btw, Edison beat his AB Miller that year on our way to the CIF finals in Angels Stadium.)
Hey, what ever happened to Nick? He was a star for the Packers, too for awhile.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:54 am
I guess my understanding of your judgment ability and connecting it to your choice in candidate make sense now then.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Ben,
Rombots be Rombots.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:56 am
Well, rand paul just b slapped romney. No ? the term mandates will be very harmful for romney in the primary. He can hope trump/palin etc create a sideshow or the field is too broken…which i think could be very helpful for romney, nobody gains traction and romney’s base wins out. Or he could do the teamup with huck, which is pretty much toxic for romney + huck supporters to contemplate but otherwise it will be difficult to escape the mandate problem. I’m sure rudy is loving the idea to jump into the race just to bash romney which helps open the door for tpaw or daniels.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:57 am
Matt, sorry but I do not agree…I’m not a fan of Facebook but millions upon millions, of Americans, are. Elections will no longer be won or lost by the antiquated pavement stomping and baby kissing ways of the past. If Palin runs, what you’ll witness is an unconventional route…which will soon be the mainstream. Palin can get more bang for her buck(which she’ll have a lot of) by using 21st Century technologies to her benefit. Sure she will need people on the ground in the key states and beyond(since I don’t see this race ending before or even right after Super Tuesday) and due to social networking, Palin will be free to have her operatives on the ground while she goes from rally to rally.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:58 am
My only disappointment was that I saw you as a more level headed thinker than that Craig. But the last few days’ comments from you have made me start to wonder.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:58 am
No other candidate ever makes sense when your coming at it with a true authentic hardcore Rombot/Palinite attitude.
Bless your hearts.
April 29th, 2011 at 10:58 am
I understand that many on this site have little faith in Palin and some just outright despise her but I think you’re all going to end up being very surprised.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Craig, you’re still here? Who will you support when Huck doesn’t run…or will you finally just leave?
April 29th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Barnett’s injuries along with the fact that the Packers have found some studs in recent drafts really dropped Nicks value to the team based on what we were paying him. He’s still got quite a bit of talent.
If your son wants to get a pair of tickets from CM and needs a good conservative to go to the game with (and you arent available) I’m free
April 29th, 2011 at 11:00 am
Palin should become the Republican Oprah!
I’d watch her!
C’mon ABC! Offer her a deal.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:01 am
108
Come on, now. Palin hasn’t been a candidate since 2008, and has not proven beyond a reasonable doubt that she has any intent to run for office again.
Come on.
Seriously.
Give it up. Palin’s cool, but come on. She’s not running. Smell the coffee.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:02 am
jersey,
I’m not saying a politician shouldn’t use social networking. I’m just saying it shouldn’t define the way they communicate. I get lots of “updates” from Paul Ryan, but noone would associate him with any negative connotations of Facebook. So Facebook can certainly suppliment the traditional stuff.
But if Sarah runs, and thinks Facebook/Twitter is a substitute for Sunday morning shows, county fairs, debates, town halls, Rotary meetings, letters to the editor, etc….. she is sorely mistaken.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:02 am
109
Craig will support anyone who he thinks can beat Romney. That was Huck last time, and if Huck doesn’t run, it’ll be TPaw or Daniels.
Remember, people like Craig support candidates because they hate someone else in the race.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:02 am
Jersey,
Welcome back!
Oh you’been gone for a while and haven’t heard.
We think he’s running and Palin is not. Period.
Next question?
April 29th, 2011 at 11:05 am
Craig -
“No other candidate ever makes sense when your coming at it with a true authentic hardcore Rombot/Palinite attitude.
Bless your hearts.”
Hi Pot, meet kettle.
I have said told you the specific reasons I have issue w/ Huckabee, but I have also agreed that he did some good things in Arkansas.
But when a candidate’s fan spouts comments such as “who is the better CEO – Trump the billionaire or Romney the millionare?” it makes me doubt the validity of that fan’s concept of reality/subjectivity. And in turn the validity of their comments about their favorite candidate.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:05 am
114.
Spoken like a true bigot for Fred Karger
This is too easy.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:06 am
117
You are aware that my alias is a joke, right?
April 29th, 2011 at 11:07 am
Hey bigot, the problem with your reasoning is that Palin might have no other choice. If she doesn’t run, she instantaneously becomes irrelevant, the MSM stops reporting on her and her supporters move on to greener pastures. She has spent the past two years headlining the charge against Obama…she has really set up no other course of action except a run for the Presidency. If she does run and loses…either the primary or the general, her hardcore fans will still support her and she will have plenty of time for another run later on…or at least a continued opportunity to earn money as a political pundit.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:08 am
#119 -
That is the first comment about “why Palin might run” that I have yeard yet that makes any sense. I can run with that. I’m not sure it would stick – but it actually has some merrit.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:10 am
119
But I think Palin doesn’t want the negative press attached to being in the spotlight.
I think she once did desire to run in 2012. But that desire has faded along with her poll numbers and her personal circumstances such as her next-door-neighbor stalker, the Trig Truthers, the negative press, etc.
Palin genuinely wants to help. But that help is best carried out from the sidelines, and I think she’s beginning to realize that, starting with the 2010 elections.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:11 am
113 – Matt, you’re thinking too conventionally. Of course she will appear on all of the shows and hit the ground but due to her prowess in social networking, she will be able to reach a greater audience…and get more bang for her buck. Sure you can say that any candidate has that option but will the press cover their tweets or fb posts? As far as your example, Ryan is a congressman…he has an outlet…he doesn’t need social network sites to get his message out clearly. If Palin didn’t use social networking as she did, with the press coverage she received, she would be polling lower than Pawlenty now…or maybe not even at all.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:18 am
“Negative connotations of facebook’
What a bullsh*t line of spin.
Obama revolutionized grassroots activity last time with his social network operation.
Palin has taken it to another level. There is nothing “negative” about easily being in contact with millions of your supporters. Quite the opposite.
This is spin from politicians who haven’t got her reach or popularity, again, readily gobbled up by sheep and other groupthink morons, like liberals.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:24 am
My biggest problem with non-Palin supporters and detractors is that a lot of them do not take the time to even research her record or watch her speeches or read her Facebook posts, yet they easily discredit and disqualify her without doing any research other than reading the headlines on Politico or GOP12.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:31 am
Mitt is well positioned in the early states, and in the general. The fact that he now begins to show strength against Obama in flippable states is huge. Last cycle there was no sitting President. This time, if you want to win, you do focus more on the winnability factor. T-Paw can rise, so can Huck, Daniels keeps using the cold water bucket on his fans too liberally,(the rests are clowns or positioning for 2016).
By the day there will be two reactions in the Republican Party to the developing dynamic:
1. Anti-clown movement
2. Who beats Obama?
As Romney rises there will also be an anti-Romney reaction, but as he picks up endorsements and steam it is going to be tough to turn that around.
T-Paw seem the very best positioned to make a strong run. I respect his full-spectrum approach thus far.
Huck’s “My race, my pace.” seems immature to me at best. Bravado without fundraising sounds like this: (cue the crickets chirping)
April 29th, 2011 at 11:32 am
Jersey,
I read C4P everyday. Therefore, I know EVERTHING about her.
1. She’s really smart.
2. She ain’t running.
3. She’s really smart.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:32 am
121 – I cannot predict the future…your guess is as good as mine…what I’ve seen lately is her gearing up for a run. About a month ago, I might have agreed with you but after her India speech and her Madison speech…and subsequent new PAC website…I think there are enough crackers left on the trail to suggest that she is closer to a yes than she is to a no. If I’m correct, the question is…when will she announce? I was thinking that she would have to announce before the end of June but I am now thinking that she might wait until 4th of July(which I actually find kind of cheesy but I’m sure a lot of her other supporters would appreciate the symbolism…not to mention that she would own the holiday weekend with that kind of announcement.)
April 29th, 2011 at 11:33 am
124
And most voters do that, and that’s why Palin could never win.
And that’s how Obama won. Many did not know how inexperienced he was.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:35 am
“My race, my pace” sums up each STRONG candidate’s thinking.
Or it better!
Remember, Reagan entered in December. Even Clinton waited till November.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:36 am
126 – you read C4P everyday? Why? I think it’s so funny how obsessed with C4P Palin detractors are…it’s a fan site…they provide a forum for Sarah Palin fans…that’s it.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:40 am
130.
Jersey,
So you really can’t accuse us non Palin-nuts from not knowing her record and views.
We know all about her, her fans, and where they will come after she quits.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:40 am
128 – You’re right, voters do look at the headlines. In fact I would agree that that’s why Palin will have the biggest uphill battle, but a lot of voters do watch the debates, and if Palin is in the race, she will receive the lion’s share of the questions and if she actually only does kinda good…her numbers will dramatically improve due to the low expectations the MSM have set up for her. If she does extraordinarily well…she wins the nomination.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:42 am
Craig, did you watch her India speech or her Madison speech?
April 29th, 2011 at 11:45 am
BTW, I think you will be surprised to see how few Palin supporters go to Huckabee. If you did go to C4P everyday…you would know that. Your type…trolls…always claim and pretend to know, yet when the questions are asked and the answers given…eventually your true colors come out. For the record I was never a fan of yours…even when you pretended to like Palin to piss off the Romney supporters. I think it’s pretty obvious who will end up with your vote come election day 2012…
April 29th, 2011 at 11:49 am
Trump is finished.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/04/29/donald-trump-calls-leaders-stupid-vegas-stop/
April 29th, 2011 at 11:50 am
134 – comment of the day
April 29th, 2011 at 11:52 am
Rombots, just remember that these polls that show a bump for Romney is because he has come out with an exploratory committee and all the pundits, MSM, and, of course, we can’t forget the Republican Establishment are trying to run Huckabee out of the race by saying he isn’t running. Do you suppose that just maybe these are part of the factors in these polls? Of course they are, so just enjoy while you can because when Huckabee makes his announcement, we will see an adjustment based on who is REALLY running. If Sarah Palin jumps in, there will be another adjustment in the polls….so this is just a short bump for Romney!
April 29th, 2011 at 11:54 am
Jersey –
Did you just nominate and crown yourself posting king for the day?
April 29th, 2011 at 11:56 am
137
But don’t forget that voters still know Romney only by his attack ads from 2007. People will get to know Romney’s positives as the campaign begins. They will also get to know Romneycare, but it will not sink him.
April 29th, 2011 at 11:59 am
For all the Rombots saying Palin won’t get in, I think that just makes it more probable she will get in. I agree with Jersey Republican that she has made some moves that looks like she might get in. One of the most enlightening moves was that of Michelle Bachmann. Did anybody notice that after Palin did one of her speeches to the Tea Party, Michelle decided she wouldn’t be getting into the first debate which surprised me. I was wondering if Palin and Bachmann had this agreement that if Palin got in Bachmann wouldn’t run….we shall see.
Jersey Republican, I hope the Palin supporters would turn to Huckabee if she doesn’t get in the race. Huckabee supporters are a lot better than Rombots any day of the week.
April 29th, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Have I offended you in some way VFT?
Or are you just saying – in general – that Rombots are worse?
April 29th, 2011 at 12:06 pm
Ben, Craig used to scour the posts and when someone busted on Romney, Craig would crown it the comment of the day…so I was just poking fun at him.
April 29th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
VFT, Huckabee is not one of my favorites but to be honest…I didn’t follow his record as Governor of Arkansas…I base some of my distaste for him due to his cheesy talk show. I have a problem taking a person seriously who has a talk show and headlines his own band…I thought Clinton was a cheeseball for going on Arsenio Hall to play his sax…but then again sometimes I can be to cool for school. Right now I support Palin…if she doesn’t run or if she gets out early…I will give all the remainder contenders a fair shot…I’m sure many of her supporters feel the same way.
April 29th, 2011 at 12:10 pm
Social media is a great tool to rally your base and in Palin’s case, to allow people and the Media to get her message unfiltered. (The Media changes it or screws it up later of course.) However, retail politics in Iowa and NH is a lot more than rallies and postings. She is very personable, so she would be an effective campaigner. However the voters in those states also like to pick people who can WIN in the general.
Prmaries and caucuses take a lot of time, effort, organization, etc. Things which need to addressed NOW. This “swoop in” idea peopl are romanticizing, is the stuff of Hollywood movies and a bored, over anxious punditry. It seldom occurs with any success in real life. It would be even more difficult for a candidate with Palin’s negative ratings to pull off.
I also don’t see Palin’s numbers jumping up to prohibitive or frontrunner status among the GOP, when she announces. If that theory were valid, she would be in a lot stonger position NOW in the GOP only polling. Why would Republicans suddenly do a 180, change their minds and flock to her, simply because she’s in? Wishful thinking.
April 29th, 2011 at 12:12 pm
The Atlantic Wire via Yahoo News has a piece that essentially says the same thing. People do not think she is running. The piece conveys that she’s not running. When people look at her electoral history, she has never followed the book. Any campaign is likely to look like Ross Perot’s. A lot of volunteers and a sprinkling of professionals. There have been some clues that she is running yet they seem to be ignored because the media seems to have their own narrative.
Romney’s 24% in Iowa is essentially what he got in 2008. SC is in play only because the leader is at 20%. Wnning is going to take much more than that.
24% in Nevada is not good considering he got 50% in 2008.
Bachmann did talk about setting up a exploratory committee in June. Why so late for a committee do decide if you are running? She may very well want to see what Palin will do. I don’t see how Bachmann gets to first base if Palin runs.
April 29th, 2011 at 12:15 pm
140 – I hadn’t even noticed that…I think Bachmann has Presidential aspirations, or at the very least, is looking for a career after politics and she understands that you have to run, or at least appear to, and strive for bigger things to remain relevant in this modern political climate…look at Ron Paul…he has no shot of winning, yet he stays relevant way beyond his worth. AND in the process he is spreading a worthy message that needs to be picked apart and considered for some of its validity. Do I think Bachmann will run this time around…maybe but I think she more than likely is pulling a Gingrich(who appears ready to announce that he has too man conflicts of interest to legally run for the President…yet again…)
April 29th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
Ah…..thanks for the clarification jersey -
That makes COMPLETE sense.
April 29th, 2011 at 12:18 pm
Hey, only I’m allowed to crown the OFFICIAL commenter of the day! Jersey has thereby broken the rules again
Actually, it’s Kavon only who decides
April 29th, 2011 at 12:20 pm
144 – Doug, I always enjoy your comments…they begin well reasoned, thoughtful even, and then they end with a punch to the gut with a closed thumb punch. I’m sorry but your last paragraph is just flat out wrong. If people are believing the punditry, when they state that she most likely will not run, those same people, who are just beginning to pay attention, will not even look her way. Those are the same people who might’ve picked her a month or two ago in the polls but now, they’re serious and they need to back a candidate that is definitely running. If she runs…her numbers will go back to being within the MOE of the frontrunner…if not the front runner in a few, select polls.
April 29th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
For Jersey, our prodigal son who has finally returned this year.. I got these links from your beloved ConservativesForPalin.com site..
32% of Palin voters list Huckabee as their second choice to 25% for Gingrich and only 10% for Romney.
– from PPP’s March 15, 2011
Yahoo Daily News 2011-01-20:
WASHINGTON, DC – “Mike Huckabee leads the trio of top-tier Republican contenders for 2012, a Washington Post/ABC poll finds, with 21 percent of the vote. Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney trail him with 19 percent and 17 percent of the vote, respectively. Everyone else is back in the single digits. Palin and Huckabee are fighting for the same base of supporters, The Washington Post’s note. They each take about a quarter whites without college degrees and people with family incomes of less than $50,000. Romney performs well with the more affluent and educated. Huckabee nets 29 percent of white evangelicals. He also wins among…”
And in THE HILL:
WASHINGTON, DC – “But voters second choices, should their favorites opt not to run, offers an interesting glimpse of which pockets of the GOP the candidates must compete for.
-If Gingrich opts not to run Huckabee would pick up 31 percent of his supporters, while 27 percent said they would gravitate to Romney and only 19 percent to Palin.
-If Huckabee stays on the sidelines it helps Palin’s chances. She’s the second choice of 34 percent of his supporters, while Gingrich and Romney take 19 percent and 17 percent respectively.
-Inversely, if Palin doesn’t run, Huckabee benefits. Almost a quarter of Palin supporters said the former Arkansas governor is their second choice, followed by 20 percent who named Gingrich and 12 percent who picked Romney.
http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/polls/131227-poll-palin-is-plan-b-for-romney-backers
April 29th, 2011 at 12:26 pm
COMMENT OF THE DAY!
Way to go, Doug!!! A Rombot has won “Comment of the Day” TODAY
April 29th, 2011 at 12:28 pm
I understand what the polls said but I also know what the comments at C4P say…and it does not look good for Huckabee…since you judge Palin based upon the people who post at C4P…her most hardcore of fans…I would think you would have known that.
April 29th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
151 – Craig, you’re such a silly, silly man…but at least you seem to be enjoying yourself in the process…so God bless…
April 29th, 2011 at 12:30 pm
Oh man! If I can’t win comment of the day because it is already won for the day I guess I’ll pack up and leave and try again another day.
April 29th, 2011 at 12:33 pm
Ben, it’s like being picked last on a winning team in grade school gym class…your part in it is dubious at best.
April 29th, 2011 at 12:35 pm
I think I referred to ROS as RomneySphere once and received the accolades, from Craig, as comment of the day…it really wasn’t all that witty and I felt kind of dirty after being awarded it.
April 29th, 2011 at 12:40 pm
A huckabee fan w/ questionable antics? Say it aint so jersey.
April 29th, 2011 at 12:45 pm
I think all, possible, candidate’s have both good and bad supporters. Huckabee has some devious ones and so does Romney…some Palin’s supporters are far from perfect as well…the others do not have enough supporters to be measured one way or the other.
April 29th, 2011 at 12:48 pm
I can tell we’ll get a long nicely jersey. I hereby (non-dubiously) nominate that last post as “Post of the Day”.
April 29th, 2011 at 12:51 pm
I was banned from ROS, so I’m not sure how long I’ll be around…but thanks for the nomination.
April 29th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
You were banned with such a level headed view point? What in the world did you do/say?
April 29th, 2011 at 12:54 pm
If you want to see some questionable Romney supporters go over to rs and announce you are a Huck fan or a Palin fan and you will be barraged with attacks…if you claim to support Huck you might be called a far right loon or a neanderthal…if you claim to support Palin, you will be talked down to, treated as if you’re a moron and continuously told that you only support Palin because you like her legs. It’s good times.
April 29th, 2011 at 12:59 pm
It was in the past but myself and one of the “editors” didn’t see eye to eye…my comments were deleted…as were my blog posts…I called him a fascist and he banned me. When ROS was abolished I received an apology from kavon and I have no hard feelings…after you spend so much of your time trying to be thoughtful, writing posts and comments, and they get deleted…let’s just say I was probably asking for it…sometimes I tend to fall into martyrdom. One thing is for certain…I never hold grudges…sometimes after an argument with my gf…I will forget what we were even fighting about…that tends to piss her off even more…winning.
BTW, I’m not always level-headed either.
April 29th, 2011 at 1:01 pm
LOL – nor am I – but I don’t get degrading. I just get feisty.
April 29th, 2011 at 1:08 pm
Ben, you seem to be a Romney supporter…no offense but I’m not one of his biggest fans either…but I do like him better than Huck…but then again I do know more about Romney’s career than I do of Huck’s, but I am actually open-minded to all of the candidates…especially if Palin doesn’t get in.
April 29th, 2011 at 1:18 pm
no offense taken. I like him better than huck as well. I like Palin but just don’t see her as a viable general election candidate but something could change my mind on that – but it would take quite a lot to alter my view there.
April 29th, 2011 at 1:34 pm
162.
Jersey,
You’re right but I can’t go to that site. I think Huck fans are blocked, deleted, or something but at least Palin’s site lets me post.
I like a lot of the her fans over at Conservatives for Palin and will be welcoming them aboard the Huck Train.
I even proposed just yesterday at C4P that Palin would make an excellent Secretary of Interior in the new Huck/Rubio administration and was “liked” by her hardcore fans for it.
April 29th, 2011 at 1:36 pm
Sometimes I even question myself about Palin but in the end I believe she has the best shot against Obama…I know, I know…I’ve heard it all before…I just believe that Palin will run a better campaign against Obama…she understands his game and will beat him at it. I also believe that the general public has a very specific viewpoint of Palin that was force fed to them by the media…it won’t be easy but it is a false narrative and a Presidential election might be the only way for her to change that narrative, if she has control over the campaign…unlike in 2008. In all honesty though…I’m not sure if anybody can beat Obama. They understand the American people and they could make Allen West look like a racist by the time the campaign is over.
April 29th, 2011 at 1:40 pm
167 – there are some good people over at RS…I like the owner and hamaca and Getreal and DanL, and a few others, are stand up dudes…but there is a lot of condescension and crazy conspiracy theories. I really didn’t mean to talk bad about the site I just think there are a few Rombots out there that are just as bad as liberals…of course there are Huck supporters and Palin supporters that are just as bad as well.
April 29th, 2011 at 1:45 pm
If she does announce that she is running then her numbers will likely rise to the levels they were in Jan 2011. Her niumbers started dropping in Feb 2011. Feb 2011 was when the potential candidates started moving towards a run while Palin dropped out of sight. I can see some signs that she is running but most people are not that politically sophisticated and do not follow it that closely.
If she does get into this then her numbers will likely gravitate back towards where they originally were. What gives her a edge is that she has more upside potential than any of the other candidates. She can tap into social conservatives and economic conservatives even though she is primarily identified with social conseratives.
She spoke in Hong Kong to a group of banker and inestment fund managers. Hardly a group she is associated with. Yet she did very well. The NY Times wrote “she was articulate, well-prepared and even compelling.”
“The speech was wide-ranging, very balanced, and she beat all expectations,” said Doug A. Coulter, head of private equity in the Asia-Pacific region for LGT Capital Partners.
“She’s definitely a serious future presidential candidate, and I understand why she plays so well in middle America,” said Mr. Coulter, a Canadian.
Mr. Goodé, a New Yorker who said he would never vote for Mrs. Palin, said she acquitted herself well.
“They really prepared her well,” he said. “She was articulate and she held her own. I give her credit. They’ve tried to categorize her as not being bright. She’s bright.”
In her Long Island question and answer session , again it was a group that she is not normally associated with. The only question that came close to social issues was 1 question on gun control. The subjects were taxes, energy, inflation and monetary policy.
“Palin received a warm reception from the pro-business crowd. “I think she did an excellent job, very clear, you understand what she’s all about,” one man said.”
“When you see her in person, you realize she’s not the idiot they make her out to be on TV,” said Michael Raab, 39, chief operating officer of CMS LLC, an insurance wholesaler based in Massapequa, New York. “She’ll change more minds if she does more interactions like this.”
These people are not social conservatives. They might be considered more Romney Republicans than Palin Republicans.. Yet she was able to connect with
them.
If she does run then she will need to educate people on her record as governor and mayor. She will need to find ways to talk with people unfiltered. That includes face to face meetings, town hall type meetings, and local media that tends to be more diverse than the national media. She
has already said that if she runs she be going to the states and meeting people face to face.
April 29th, 2011 at 1:50 pm
What I don’t get is the lack of correlation between Palin and Huckabee’s numbers. Both of them are at about the same level of “possible to run” but yet her numbers have tanked while Huckabee’s numbers have stayed level (to a certain extent). So which makes more sense?
April 29th, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Craig for Huck – Thanks for the award – but you shouldn’t kill a good thread like that
I’ll pull a George C. Scott/Marlon Brando and refuse to accept.
If yo were refering to Right Speak in your comment at #167 – there is no blocking or deleting of anyone, Huck fans, Palin fans, Trump fans etc.
What you will find is spirited debate and support by people for their candidate of choice. Opinions run the gamut from mainstream to obscure to absurd – all without banning. Now some folks are too hyper sensitive for that sort of thing. Others are not.
April 29th, 2011 at 3:32 pm
[...] yesterday’s Fox Poll is any indication, people are already starting to tire of the Trump sideshow. I sincerely hope so. [...]
April 29th, 2011 at 3:55 pm
The only value I derive from polls such as this at this point in time is that it discredits certain Romnot comments over the past few months that Mitt is in fourth place and sinking further, i.e. mostly entertainment value.
April 29th, 2011 at 7:37 pm
172.
Doug,
I’ve had many comments in support of Huck deleted there.
Not saying they were by you.