March 31, 2011

Poll Watch: Strategic National 2012 Ohio Poll

Strategic National 2012 Ohio Poll

If the 2012 Presidential Primary were held today, and the only candidates running were Michelle Bachmann, Haley Barbour, Newt Gingrich, Mike Huckabee, Jon Huntsman, Sarah Palin, Tim Pawlenty, Mitt Romney, and Rick Santorum, for whom would you vote?

  • Mike Huckabee 24.49%
  • Newt Gingrich 21.94%
  • Sarah Palin 16.33%
  • Mitt Romney 13.78%
  • Michele Bachmann 5.61%
  • Tim Pawlenty 3.57%
  • Rick Santorum 2.04%
  • Haley Barbour 1.53%
  • Jon Huntsman 1.53%
  • Undecided 9.18%

If the 2012 Republican U.S. Senate primary was held today, and the only candidates running were Ken Blackwell, Josh Mandel, and Pat Tiberi, for whom would you vote?

  • Ken Blackwell 34.18%
  • Josh Mandel 17.35%
  • Pat Tiberi 16.33%
  • Undecided 32.14%

If the 2012 Republican U.S. Senate primary was held today…for whom would you vote?

  • Sherrod Brown 45.00%
  • Ken Blackwell 32.20%
  • Undecided 22.80%
  • Sherrod Brown 46.00%
  • Pat Tiberi 20.80%
  • Undecided 33.20%
  • Sherrod Brown 44.20%
  • Josh Mandel 21.40%
  • Undecided 34.40%

The poll consists of a sample of 500 registered voters. The survey has a margin of error of +/-4.4%.

Inside the numbers:

Senator Sherrod Brown heads into the 2012 election cycle as one of the most vulnerable Senate Democrats in the country. This poll shows him in the mid 40s, often the kiss of death for an incumbent at this point in a cycle.

The data confirms previously released public polling showing that Ken Blackwell is the preferred choice of Ohio Republicans. It also shows that he is by far the strongest candidate in the General Election.

It is important to view these findings in proper context. Josh Mandel recently ran statewide and spent considerable resources in his successful 2010 statewide election. Ken Blackwell on the other hand has not run statewide since 2006. The results may be surprising when taking that into consideration.

This poll is probably a snapshot of the ‘floor’ for Blackwell because he has not been in the public eye in Ohio in recent years. He has had no recent visibility, and this general electorate is slightly Democrat in profile. He also shows little residual damage from his bid for Governor with a positive favorable vs. unfavorable rating.

Josh Mandel recently won election for statewide office with a significant victory last fall. In many ways, he should be at the height of his popularity right now, and yet, he garners an anemic 21% of the vote against Sherrod Brown. Mandel also badly trails Blackwell nearly 2-1 in a primary. The weakness of Mandel’s numbers in both this poll and other public polling are noteworthy.

Brown leads the General Election against either potential Republican nominee, but he is in the ‘danger zone’ in the mid 40’s. Blackwell performs 10 points better than Mandel in the General Election, despite not being on the ballot in five years. Mandel’s weakness in both the Primary and General Election could be attributed to only serving on the job a few months, and concern that it would be inappropriate to run for another office so soon. The survey also included Rep. Pat Tiberi. He performed approximately the same as Mandel. This was somewhat surprising given that Mandel was recently elected statewide.

It is clear Ken Blackwell is in a tremendously strong position to win the Republican Primary for US Senate and performs better than any other Republican candidate against Senator Brown.

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69 Responses to “Poll Watch: Strategic National 2012 Ohio Poll”

  1. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    HUCKABOOM!

    (Sorry, folks. I get excited.)

  2. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    •Mitt Romney 13.78%

    ..oh my goodness. ;)

  3. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    •Mike Huckabee 24.49%
    •Haley Barbour 1.53%

    Noooooooooo. A thousand times no! Huck will not endorse you, Haley. 8)

  4. RegularJoe Says:

    Good for Gov. Huckabee!

    Very impressive and somewhat surprising for Newt.

    Isn’t this the state Palin was leading a month back???

    Romney fails to impress.

  5. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    •Sherrod Brown 45.00%
    •Ken Blackwell 32.20%

    Not as bad as we think.

  6. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    http://www.lifenews.com/2011/03/24/ohio-pro-life-republican-ken-blackwell-mulls-senate-bid/

  7. CF Says:

    Not really surprising to see Romney down here. Ohio is a heavy, heavy Evangelical state. I knew a guy who went there on an LDS mission and was told all the bigoted horror stories from the people he met there.

  8. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    CF,

    Lose the religion card. The whining gets boring.

  9. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    We need Ohio to beat Obama.

  10. Max Twain Says:

    And Ohio will be in late March or April, long after Huckabee is eliminated.

  11. Max Twain Says:

    Polling outside of the 5 early states is illogical. To assume that Ohio numbers will be unchanged after the early states is the same as assuming Florida would be Giuliani’s after losing the early states.

  12. CF Says:

    Ohio does not matter in the Primary. The race will be essentially over after New Hampshire.

  13. Max Twain Says:

    12

    No later then Super Tuesday, unless of course Huck decides to linger pathetically again like last time after the nomination is sewn up by a real candidate.

  14. Steven S. Says:

    Florida:
    Mitt Romney -2
    Jeb Bush -3
    Rudy Giuliani -6
    Mike Huckabee -7
    Newt Gingrich -8
    Sarah Palin -13

    Favorables:
    Jeb Bush 44/44
    Huckabee 40/39
    Romney 39/39
    Rudy 37/46
    Newt 32/48
    Palin 32/60

  15. Steven S. Says:

    Romney stays the same, Huckabee drops 2, Gingrich 3, Palin gains 1 point.

  16. CF Says:

    13

    That wouldn’t surprise me. Huckabee would probably rather see Obama as President for 4 more years over a Mormon.

    To Huckabee, four more years of the Obama Misery Index is better than an Eternity knowing that he let a member of “Satan’s Church” take over the Oval Office.

  17. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    I think Huck wins the Florida primary poll, Steven.

    We should know tomorrow about Huck’s home Sunshine State. 8)

  18. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Can’t right this one off as some kooky PPP conspiracy.

    Mitt has a major problem in the Midwest.

  19. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    CF,

    With the pathetic poor me religion card again.

  20. Matt "MWS" Says:

    CF,

    So are you going to denigrate and impugn every state where Mitt doesn’t do well?

  21. Steven S. Says:

    Another mixed message day in the polls.

  22. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    18.Matt “MWS” Says:
    March 31st, 2011 at 2:50 pm
    “Mitt has a major problem in the Midwest.”

    HUGE, Matt..

    http://monarch.tamu.edu/~smrs/12022930.gif

  23. Vote for Truth Says:

    CF,

    Huckabee would support any Republican over Obama…so stop with your lies. BTW, Huckabee hasn’t anything against the Mormon religion, just pandering, untrustworthy, no principles he stands by, Romney.

  24. Vote for Truth Says:

    CF,

    Being a Mormon, CF, you should be ashamed of calling your church, Satan’s Church!

  25. Steven S. Says:

    Florida will change colors this week. Go Mitt!

  26. Adam X Says:

    If we don’t win Ohio in the general election then Obama is returning to the White House.

    I don’t feel comfortable going with any primary candidate who has such tepid appeal among Ohio Republicans…

  27. Steven S. Says:

    I still believe Utah poll would show Huckabee at least in a dead heat vs. Obama with the lowest favorables in the country. Mormons don’t like to be ripped in the media or by Evangelicals. ROSS PEROT finished 2nd in Utah in 1992. An Arkansasan can be beaten in Utah by a third party, its been proven before.

  28. Adam X Says:

    27,

    Maybe. Except that Utah is only six electoral votes and Ohio is going to be 18.

  29. Steven S. Says:

    We still have not started the election yet. I’m not concerned or going to celebrate with these polls. It will be the nastiest GOP primary in our lifetimes, I am sure of that.

  30. Steven S. Says:

    Where’s the general election poll from Ohio? Last time I checked Romney was losing by 6, Huckabee by 7.

  31. Jason Says:

    Why do we need to have a thread for every meaningless poll that comes out saying the exact same thing?

  32. Thunder Says:

    # Vote for Truth Says:
    March 31st, 2011 at 2:54 pm

    CF,

    BTW, Huckabee hasn’t anything against the Mormon religion, just pandering, untrustworthy, no principles he stands by, Romney.
    =========================================
    There appears no truth in you, Huckabee has always been anti-Mormon, his Mormon slur proofs it. It is one of the reasons I don’t think he will run. He will be shown for the Religious bigot he is. If Huckabee wins the nomination, I will probably vote liberterian rather than for the Huckanut.

  33. Adam X Says:

    30,

    Assuming that’s true – then it’s margin of error and essentially the same outcome for both.

    Then you take into account intensity and energy of the base. That’s how Bush beat Kerry in 2004. He energized the Evangelical vote.

    Romney won’t be able to do that so well.

  34. Adam X Says:

    For all the carping about Huckabee being a religious bigot it’s amazing to me a) how much of the conversation centers around Mormonism from the Romney supporters and b) how often these Romney supporters claim that their enthusiasm for their man has nothing to do with religion.

    Just a few observations…

  35. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    29.Steven S. Says:
    March 31st, 2011 at 3:01 pm
    “We still have not started the election yet. I’m not concerned or going to celebrate with these polls. It will be the nastiest GOP primary in our lifetimes, I am sure of that.”

    ===

    It won’t if you Rombots stop all your incessant whining about religion and just stick to the issues of the day.

  36. Adam X Says:

    And before anyone whines about me pointing out the obvious remember that it was the Mormon Rombot CF who started the whole thing with the persecution complex.

  37. Steven S. Says:

    Florida favorables:
    Independents
    Romney 43/32 (Dec: 36/51)
    Huckabee 38/45 (Dec: 25/62)

    General Election
    Independents
    Obama 41, Romney 39 (Dec: Obama 52, Romney 28)
    Obama 50, Huckabee 35 (Dec: Obama 60, Huckabee 24)

  38. CF Says:

    “Mitt Romney PACs net another $1.9M”
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0311/52324.html

    Impressive. If he can do this well for his PAC before the Primary even begins, I wonder what he can for the American people.

  39. Steven S. Says:

    Craig, your man is doing 5 points worse than Romney in your precious new home state of Florida. I thought the people were going to be moving to him in droves. I’m not worried about my religion in this election cycle. Romney can be disliked by Evangelicals in the most Southernest states (Mississippi) in the country and still beat Obama. I guess black prejudice overpowers anti-Mormon bigotry in the South.

  40. Jeff Fuller Says:

    Adam X: If we don’t win Ohio in the general election then Obama is returning to the White House. I don’t feel comfortable going with any primary candidate who has such tepid appeal among Ohio Republicans…

    OK, then please expound on today’s Florida PPP numbers where Romney’s only down 2% to Obama and Huck is down 7% . . .

    Or is Ohio more important that FL to you?!?!

    And you’re drawing your conclusion from this PRIMARY nomination poll as opposed to a general election match-up poll like the FL one.

    How you like them apples?

  41. Jeff Fuller Says:

    And I agree that the Mormon victimization does get old quick (from a Romney Supporter here). We don’t need that to win political debates and it turns people off.

  42. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    Among FLORIDA Republicans

    •Mike Huckabee 63% / (22%) {+38%}
    •Mitt Romney 59% / 26% ) {+33%}

    Among OHIO Republicans

    •Mike Huckabee 69% / 16% {+53%}
    •Mitt Romney 55% / 26% ( {+29%}

  43. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    Thanks, Jeff.

  44. Adam X Says:

    Or is Ohio more important that FL to you?!?!

    Ohio IS more important. Bush won Florida by 5 and Ohio by only 2 in 2004.

    If we win Ohio, we’ve probably already won Florida.

  45. Jeff Fuller Says:

    Was Kavon going to post the FL PPP numbers too? Those are very important because it’s a swing state and an early state (plus, my guy looks the best hands down)

  46. Jeff Fuller Says:

    Wow Adam X . . . a lot has changed since 2004. That will be 8 years at the time of the election. And demographic trends have altered the make-up of the state. They’ve also been really hit with unemployment as well and so there will be different motivations for voters than in 2004. That’s a pretty big jump in logic to use a 3% difference in 2004 and say what you said . . .

    just sayin . . .

  47. Steven S. Says:

    42 million African Americans in this country, 36 million Baptists, 29 million Mainline Christians. 5.8 million Mormons.

  48. Steven S. Says:

    March 10-13, 2011
    Mike Huckabee 19%, Mitt Romney 18%, Newt Gingrich 16%, Sarah Palin 15%, Ron Paul 7%, Tim Pawlenty 5%,

  49. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    39.Steven S. Says:
    March 31st, 2011 at 3:15 pm
    “I guess black prejudice overpowers anti-Mormon bigotry in the South.”

    Wow, Steve..

    The religion card and the race card in the same sentence. Are you Al Sharpton?

    I’m going to stop reading and start ignoring your posts if you don’t knock it off.

  50. Adam X Says:

    46,

    Fine. Use 2008. Obama won FL by 2.8 and FL by 4.5. FL was closer to our column.

    The electoral map has been pretty static since 2000 as polarization has increased. It’s not to say that it can’t change – but since it’s clear that FL is a bit more Republican than OH, it’s not that much of a stretch to point out that Ohio is the ball game.

  51. Steven S. Says:

    Proof is in the Mississippi numbers.

    Whites:
    Obama Approval 16% Approve, 81% Disapprove
    Romney Favorables: 44/37

  52. Adam X Says:

    Damnit – no edit feature.

    Obama won FL by 2.8 and OH by 4.5.

    The point still remains.

  53. Liz Says:

    boycott rolling stone

    Soon as Huckster balances a checkbook he merits a look at.

  54. Smack1968 Says:

    tele,

    You see tele,

    according to Ohio, TPAW is no longer the 3.5% candidate. He is now the…

    3.57% candidate.

    Another example of..

    TPAW RISING!!

  55. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    Steven S. Says:
    March 31st, 2011 at 3:26 pm
    March 10-13, 2011
    “Mike Huckabee 19%, Mitt Romney 18%, Newt Gingrich 16%, Sarah Palin 15%, Ron Paul 7%, Tim Pawlenty 5%

    ====

    Ok.

    •Mike Huckabee 24.49% ..up 5 1/2
    •Newt Gingrich 21.94% ..up 6!
    •Sarah Palin 16.33% ..up 1 1/3
    •Mitt Romney 13.78% ..DOWN 4 PLUS
    •Tim Pawlenty 3.57% ..down 1 1/2

    1. Where’s Smack for 3-Paw? ;)

    2. Is Ron Paul drawing that much from from Willard?

  56. Adam X Says:

    51,

    That’s not proof of anything. Obama’s “favorables” are definitely higher in MS than his “approvals” are.

    Lots of people claim (for reasons I don’t understand or agree with) to like Obama the man but not his current policies.

  57. Steven S. Says:

    Palin’s favorables in Mississippi with whites: 60/32
    Gingrich: 53/32

  58. zeek Says:

    congrats to huck on his poll numbers. I am axious for all candidates to announce and get on the same playing field nation wide.

  59. Steven S. Says:

    Ohio white voters:

    Palin favorables: 33/57
    Romney 38/40
    Gingrich 27/52

    Mississippi white voters:
    Palin favorables: 60/32
    Gingrich 53/32
    Romney 44/37

    Explain to me how whites view in these two states are totally opposite of each other.

  60. Vote for Truth Says:

    Thunder,

    I’m sorry you feel that way. I know Huckabee was Pres. of the Baptist Convention when they went to Utah, and because of that you feel Huckabee doesn’t like Mormons. Remeber, as President of that Convention, he had a role to play as far as what Baptists in general thought of the Mormon religion. I personally have heard him say many, many times that he has nothing against other religions and that includes the Mormons. He had something against Romney, not his religion.

    He has apologized for the question to the press, and BTW, many Mormons said that what Huckabee asked in his question is true, so why would you hide from the truth of your own religion? If you are a Christian, God says we must forgive. Can you or do you live by your own rules, not God’s?

  61. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    58.zeek Says:
    March 31st, 2011 at 3:40 pm
    “congrats to huck on his poll numbers. I am axious for all candidates to announce and get on the same playing field nation wide.”

    ===

    Thanks, Zeke.

    Me, too

    Around August to Labor Day.

  62. Adam X Says:

    Explain to me how whites view in these two states are totally opposite of each other.

    I’m not sure what you’re getting at.

    Romney’s tepid approval in Ohio is not much different than his tepid approval in Mississippi.

    Palin and Gingrich have always run stronger in crimson red states.

  63. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    Here’s the last PPP polling in comparison to Strategic Polling’s number

    24.49% •Mike Huckabee 19% [19%] (17%)
    13.78% •Mitt Romney 18% [15%] (14%)
    21.94% •Newt Gingrich 16% [18%] (19%)
    16.33% •Sarah Palin 15% [21%] (20%)
    NA •Ron Paul 7% [6%]
    3.57% •Tim Pawlenty 5% [3%] (6%)
    NA •Mitch Daniels 4% [5%] (3%)
    1.52% •Haley Barbour 2%
    •Someone else/Undecided 13% [11%] (18%)

  64. pea-jay Says:

    “Explain to me how whites view in these two states are totally opposite of each other.”

    The white vote in OH is a lot more diverse (containing more demographics that are skeptical or hostile of republican views). Examples…
    -Union households (smaller than historically but far larger than MS)
    -certain white ethnic groups
    -well educated and government workers (again more in OH)
    -religious adherence and participation rates (lower in OH)
    -more urban

  65. Dave Says:

    It’s not surprising that Huckabee wins in Ohio, and it’s not surprising that Romney does better in Florida.

    I’d rather do better in Florida.

  66. Tiger B Says:

    I didn’t know Mormon is Satan’s Church. I thought Mormon was the same as the Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints. I guess you learn something new everyday.

  67. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    Dave,

    Huck beats Romney in the latest Florida 2012 primary polling as well.

    Romney has dropped in Florida in the last FOUR PPP’s from 52 to 31 to 28 to 21!!!

    Next stop, the teens….

  68. Craig for Teflon Huck™ in '12 Says:

    Maybe Romney will drop out before Super Tuesday if Huckabee beats him by a combined 30+ points in IA/SC/FL.

    Forget about Super Tuesday as no amount of money can unbury that.

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