March 31, 2011

Poll Watch: Fairleigh Dickinson PublicMind 2012 Presidential Survey

FDU PublicMind 2012 Presidential Survey

  • Mike Huckabee 46%
  • Barack Obama 46%
  • Barack Obama 44%
  • Mitt Romney 43%
  • Barack Obama 46%
  • Chris Christie 40%
  • Barack Obama 48%
  • Tim Pawlenty 34%
  • Barack Obama 52%
  • Newt Gingrich 37%
  • Barack Obama 54%
  • Sarah Palin 34%

Among Democrats

  • Barack Obama 77%
  • Mitt Romney 10%
  • Barack Obama 83%
  • Mike Huckabee 12%
  • Barack Obama 82%
  • Chris Christie 7%
  • Barack Obama 87%
  • Sarah Palin 6%
  • Barack Obama 92%
  • Tim Pawlenty 4%
  • Barack Obama 91%
  • Newt Gingrich 3%

Among Republicans

  • Mitt Romney 86%
  • Barack Obama 4%
  • Newt Gingrich 86%
  • Barack Obama 7%
  • Mike Huckabee 85%
  • Barack Obama 8%
  • Tim Pawlenty 75%
  • Barack Obama 5%
  • Chris Christie 78%
  • Barack Obama 9%
  • Sarah Palin 71%
  • Barack Obama 17%

Among Independents

  • Mike Huckabee 49%
  • Barack Obama 40%
  • Chris Christie 43%
  • Barack Obama 40%
  • Barack Obama 45%
  • Mitt Romney 44%
  • Barack Obama 45%
  • Newt Gingrich 40%
  • Barack Obama 41%
  • Tim Pawlenty 33%
  • Barack Obama 52%
  • Sarah Palin 34%

In 2012 there will be an election for President of the United States. To run as the Republican candidate for President, who would you prefer?

Among Republicans & GOP-Leaning Independents

  • Mike Huckabee 21%
  • Mitt Romney 19%
  • Chris Christie 11%
  • Sarah Palin 11%
  • Newt Gingrich 8%
  • Tim Pawlenty 5%
  • Unsure/Other 23%

In general, do you approve or disapprove of the way Barack Obama is handling his job as president?

  • Approve 44%
  • Disapprove 48%

Among Democrats

  • Approve 74%
  • Disapprove 17%

Among Republicans

  • Approve 13%
  • Disapprove 81%

Among Independents

  • Approve 39%
  • Disapprove 53%

Survey of 800 registered voters nationwide was conducted March 21-28, 2011. The margin of error is +/- 3.5 percentage points.  Party ID breakdown: 31% Democrat; 23% Republican; 41% Independent; 4%

Data compilation and analysis courtesy of The Argo Journal.

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220 Responses to “Poll Watch: Fairleigh Dickinson PublicMind 2012 Presidential Survey”

  1. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    And the beat goes on..

    Among Independents

    •Mike Huckabee 49% 8)
    •Barack Obama 40%

    •Chris Christie 43% ..and congrats to all our new Christie fans! ;)
    •Barack Obama 40%

  2. DAN Says:

    THESE ARE THE ONLY NUMBERS THAT MATTER,

    Mike Huckabee 46%
    Barack Obama 46%

    Barack Obama 44%
    Mitt Romney 43%

    Barack Obama 54%
    Sarah Palin 34%

    NO ONE KNOWS GINGRICH OR PAWLENTY.

  3. letmeeatmywaffle Says:

    #2, people know Gingrich; he’s toast–this shows we’re really in the game with the rest. Huckabee, our white knight?

  4. SteveT Says:

    Huck vs. Mitt … if Huck is in…

    Obama neck and neck with credible GOP candidates.

  5. Steven S. Says:

    Strange Romney performs better than Huckabee in the general election with Republicans and Democrats, but Huckabee performs better with Independents.

  6. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    3. Right.

    Almost everyone and their brother knows Newt. He’s a popular guy.

  7. SteveT Says:

    From 2008 exits … Dems 39% Reps 32%.

    This poll is more Dem then 2008.

    A more likely scenario – Dem + 2 for likely voters. With this adjustment, both Mitt and Huck are leading!

  8. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    Favorable Among Republicans

    •Mitt Romney 86% •Newt Gingrich 86% •Mike Huckabee 85%

    Congrats to Newt and Mitt!!

  9. Steven S. Says:

    Romney +5 Republicans over Huckabee
    Romney +4 Democrats over Huckabee
    Huckabee +10 Independents over Romney

    Hukcabee +1 overall over Romney

  10. Smack1968 Says:

    This is a Jersey poll so they have Christie in it. I wonder what the numbers would show with Christie out of the poll?..

    …dare I say….TPAW within 4pts of Palin???…

    Of course these polls don’t mean much other then…

    TPAW rising!!!

  11. Steven S. Says:

    Not favorables, % of party that votes for candidates. Huckabee is more liked Craig, you should already know that. :)

  12. Smack1968 Says:

    Obama is in trouble.

  13. Lucas Says:

    Go Huck Go!!!!

  14. Lucas Says:

    Smack, doesnt matter that its a jersey poll and that Christie is in it. The poll is pitting republicans against each other. Taking Christie out wouldnt change anyone’s numbers.

  15. Lucas Says:

    OHHHHHHHHHHHHH….I see. You are referring to the later poll. Gotcha.

  16. Smack1968 Says:

    Lucas,

    What???

    My take is if Christie werew not a choice among the people who were asked in this poll, that maybe more Christie voters would have picked TPAW over Palin which would then…..why in the hell am I explaining this?…of course the numbers would change!

    ….and by the way…TPAW is finally at 5% so no one can rain on my parade today.

  17. Steven S. Says:

    I’m going positive on the Florida numbers for president.

    Romney -1
    Huckabee -3
    Gingrich -5
    Palin -11

  18. Steven S. Says:

    Criag, have you noticed in the general polls that Huckabee gets a higher % than Romney, but Obama gets his lowest % against Romney.

  19. AJNolte Says:

    Interesting that Obama is below fifty against everyone but Newt and Palin.
    So, who will Sarah endorse?

  20. Matt "MWS" Says:

    So every Republican- even the unknown Pawlenty- holds Obama to the 44-48 range, which is great, except for Newt and Palin, who get beaten like rented mules.

    But…. but…… but….. I’m sure something magical will happen that will make the media treat Sarah differently, or make Sarah act differently, that will turn all of that around!

  21. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    Steven,

    Not really but I looked it up at Real Clear Politics..

    General Election: Romney vs. Obama
    Polling Data
    Poll Date Sample Obama (D) Romney (R) Spread
    RCP Average 1/3 – 3/13 — 47.7 42.6 Obama +5.1

    General Election: Huckabee vs. Obama
    Polling Data
    Poll Date Sample Obama (D) Huckabee (R) Spread
    RCP Average 1/6 – 3/13 — 47.8 42.0 Obama +5.8

    General Election: Palin vs. Obama
    Polling Data
    Poll Date Sample Obama (D) Palin (R) Spread
    RCP Average 1/6 – 3/13 — 52.3 36.7 Obama +15.6

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_palin_vs_obama-1169.html

  22. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    19.AJNolte Says:
    March 31st, 2011 at 10:26 am
    “Interesting that Obama is below fifty against everyone but Newt and Palin.
    So, who will Sarah endorse?”

    ===

    AJ,

    I’m guessing fellow Mama Grizzly, Michele!

  23. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Looking at that horserace poll, I’d say Sarah’s star is just about extinguished, as far as her POTUS status. She started with about 68%, according to Rasmussen in Nov. ’08 (post election). Now she has shed about 4 out of every 5 supporters she once had, and polls about 11%.

    That’s a truly remarkable disintegration. She’s largely down to two groups, I think:

    1. The hard core, represented here and at C4P.

    2. People are aren’t really paying attention yet.

    I think the latter group is much larger than the former, despite the noise.

  24. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    Then we could have a possible Republican ticket of Bachmann/Palin.

    And win a grand total of three states.

  25. Jonathan Says:

    Looks pretty simple to me; don’t nominate Palin or Gingrich and we have a chance to win.

    It really can’t be too difficult. If the polls continue like this until next year (with the field, minus one or two, doing pretty well against Obama), then Mr./Mrs. Primary Voter who badly wants to win in 2012, will turn to the likes of Palin and say “Governor, you just can’t win and I’m not going to vote for you.”

  26. Smack1968 Says:

    Matt,

    Yes, and I’m fully convinced that Sarah has internalized this fact as well and has already decided it’s a no for the race.

    We at RACE42012 should now embark on the discussion on whether she will endorse in this GOP Nomination race, and if yes, who she will endorse.

  27. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    Matt,

    I was such a big fan of hers as recently as last year! She should of not quit her governorship and become such a whiner.

    Now I think you’re right. At this point, her slippage is so bad that she couldn’t be elected anywhere to anything.

    Sad to say, I think she’s even in jeopardy of not having her Fox News deal renewed. I hope not.

  28. Bob Hovic Says:

    Matt (23): I was about to make a similar point — with each iteration of poll numbers like this, another small group of Palin supporters will fall away from her, until nobody but the fans are left.

    Thus far, it has been a steady erosion. At some point it will be a complete collapse, where she drops to low single digits (and/or officially withdraws in order to avoid that embarrassment).

  29. teledude Says:

    I have stated many times these polls are meaningless.

    Yet the infantile prattle about them continues. I guess it gives you hens something to chirp about, but they in no way reflect the outcomes of the upcoming primaries.

    Meanwhile, it appears the real campaign is underway…

    Barack Obama, Sarah Palin Argue Over Energy Policy
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ac/20110330/cm_ac/8180959_barack_obama_sarah_palin_argue_over_energy_policy

    Energy Policy + National Security + Economic Growth = The Palin Doctrine.

    She is the only one who has articulated a wining message, a reason to run. She lives rent free in Obama’s head.

    These polls are but wisps of smoke on a windy day once she announces.

  30. Smack1968 Says:

    tele,
    I agree with you on the polls on that they really stand on moving sand.

    However, Sarah can’t sit there and not go to Iowa….period!

    Sarah is not in position anymore to be able to snap her fingers, and whhhaaamo, she is the winner in Iowa.

    You live in Iowa and you should know this. You need to earn the victory on the ground, not in Alaska on a keyboard.

    Why is she not in Iowa?

    Why is she not in Iowa?

    Why is she not in Iowa?

    Because she is not running.

  31. letmeeatmywaffle Says:

    #28, Bob, right on, though I do think she’ll want to play kingmaker. Her endorsement will be very actively courted.

  32. AnneMarie Says:

    #30 Smack1968: The Iowa caucuses are 10 months away. While we’re on the subject, when is TPaw going to Israel and India?

  33. teledude Says:

    She has PLENTY of time to come to Iowa.

    I haven’t seen Romney around here. All we have in Iowa are the second and third tier long shots hoping to catch lightning in a bottle.

    Buddy Roemer and Tiny Tim Pawlenty are not going to do anything here.

    I think a far more coherent conversation would be who is Huckabee going to endorse, but it looks like Boss Hogg has that nailed down.

  34. Watchinitall Says:

    Unfortunately, Palin has a direct financial interest in being seen as relevant to the political discussion, and has to pose as a potential candidate to keep her fees for speaking as high as possible. Huck’s in the same boat. Oddly, this might be forcing the whole process to shift to the right on the calndar. The teasers and posers have to set their timetable for later in the cycle to maintain the facade and keep the income rolling in. The rest of the field understands that they can’t get voters to begin the process of switching loyalties until it is clearer that their favorite horse isn’t leaving the barn.

  35. Smack1968 Says:

    This comment by Florida Senate President Mike Haridopolis shows you why Romney and TPAW are at the top at INTRADE and Palin and Huck are way down.

    It’s because Palin & Huck are not running.

    The insiders kknow this is true.

    Most people on this site are beginning to figure this out

    Read below.

    “Florida Senate President Mike Haridopolis, a personal friend of Huckabee’s who endorsed his campaign in 2008, told RCP that the former governor “seems to be enjoying his private life” and has not shown signs of rebuilding a political organization in the state.

    Haridopolis is preparing to ramp up his own campaign for the right to challenge Democratic Sen. Bill Nelson in what figures to be one of the pivotal U.S. Senate races of 2012 and is being heavily courted by the likely Republican White House hopefuls.

    “We’ve received calls from all the major candidates,” Haridopolis said, later adding that former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin was an exception. “They will be making their way through Tallahassee, and they want to let us know their interest in pursuing the presidency.”

    Haridopolis said that he was unlikely to endorse this time around, in part because he wanted to unite the party behind his own candidacy. But even as he touted the strengths of Romney, Pawlenty and Barbour, he suggested that underdogs would also have a shot.

    “We want to give the lesser-knowns the same ability to compete in Florida, and we believe strongly that after those four primaries, they could have the national name identification by that point and the ability to raise resources to compete in a state like Florida,” he said. “I think our state has moved considerably to the right on financial issues, and that’s going to be the real calling card for people to find success in Florida.”

  36. AnneMarie Says:

    #30 Smack1968: I am pleased to report that TPaw will be speaking at the TEA Party rally in Boston (my area) on April 15th.

  37. teledude Says:

    34. She has already turned down 8 million for a second year of SP’s Alaska. (She’s going to be busy)

    She is NOT driven by greed or making money, that is just another bullsh*t false narrative they have used to try to denigrate her, probably stemming from envy at her success. Much PDS is envy driven.

    She loves this country and has a plan to fix the problems we face, but more than that, she has the courage to carry through with them.

    You will see.

    It sounds to me like you guys are trying to convince yourselves. I call it whistling past the graveyard.

    She is running.

    When she announces it will change everything.

    All your wishcasting will have been in vain.

  38. Smack1968 Says:

    AnnMarie,

    Are you serious?

    TPAW went all over the world as Gov of MN.

    You know, the job he had for 8 years and did not quit on.

    The voters of Iowa do not give a rip about a trip to India at this point.

    Honest to God, this race in Iowa is going to easier then I thought.

  39. marK Says:

    Sarah Palin has been steadily dropping since 2008. She is now within two points of dropping into single digits — SINGLE DIGITS!!.

    If she is going to have any chance at all of winning the nomination, she is going to have to reverse that trend sooner or later. Q1-2011 is just finishing. We will be in Q2-2011 tomorrow. She has yet to show any signs of staunching the flow, let alone reversing it.

    The clock is ticking. Time is running out.

  40. Smack1968 Says:

    AnnMarie,

    Yes, and TPAW will also be at the NH capital on April 15th.

    Busy day, working hard for the votes.

  41. AnneMarie Says:

    #38 Smack1968 – Are you serious? The ONLY state in the country that matters is Iowa? I think some of the Indian-Americans scattered throughout the 50 states might care about a trip to Inida.

  42. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Watch,

    “Unfortunately, Palin has a direct financial interest in being seen as relevant to the political discussion, and has to pose as a potential candidate to keep her fees for speaking as high as possible. Huck’s in the same boat.”

    Good point. Although I think that is more true for Palin- who is a freelance celebrity- than Huck, who has a steady day job on TV and the radio.

    Freelance celebrities- be they political or from Hollywood (think Paris Hilton)- have to find ways to stay in the news, or their income goes away.

  43. CF Says:

    This is actually great news that Romney is just behind Huckabee. Romney can appear as the underdog in Iowa, lowering his expectations and boosting his cred if he wins.

    Even if Huckabee gets in the race, he will be -expected- to win Iowa handily. He doesn’t have the benefit of being the “come-from-behind” underdog that he had in 2008. In other words, his Iowa win will mean far less in the grand scheme of the race.

  44. Smack1968 Says:

    AnnMarie

    For TPAW, at this point, the only 2 states that matter are Iowa and New Hampshire.

    Nothing against Indian-Americans but TPAW needs an Iowa victory.

    Yep…that simple.

  45. teledude Says:

    I wonder why Obama is addressing her concerns and not Pawlenty’s or Romney’s?

    All they do is praise Romney. I don’t think Obama has even heard of Pawlenty.

    This is funny.

    Part of the reason she is dropping is the constant drumbeat from her political opponents (and their supporters) that she is not running. It is early.

    By waiting she is putting major stress on the other candidates and the press. (Hilarious MSNBC and Polutico had to cancel their ‘debate.’) She is in the catbirds seat, and everything is frozen until she makes her move.

    Once she announces all these polls go bye bye.

    The race has in fact begun, with Obama and Palin trading shots. The rest of the pack? irrelevant.

    And they know.

  46. Matthew Kilburn Says:

    “This is actually great news that Romney is just behind Huckabee. Romney can appear as the underdog in Iowa”

    I don’t buy into the “underdog” BS. I’ll take a concrete win over surprising the pundits any day. Victories give you votes, expectations don’t.

    That said, the winer of this poll isn’t really clear: would you rather tie your opponent, or be one behind him, but holding him down lower?

    Not such good news for Pawlenty though – its interesting how high Christie is.

  47. bob Says:

    #45:

    And of course the entire anti-Palin world will be in denial that is the case, that somehow the Tea Party, grassroots conservatives, evangelical Christians, pro-life groups and those who want Obamacare repealed have all declared Sarah Palin persona non grata.

    And bets who gets the most people to his or her outing in Iowa?

  48. Smack1968 Says:

    tele,

    So those trading shots that Palin is doing with Obama is helping her win in Iowa? NH? SC?

    Palin’s feet don’t even have to touch the ground in Iowa do they?

    Oh thats right….it’s early yet.

    Palin.is.not.running.

    Pawlenty/Rubio 2012!

  49. Matthew Kilburn Says:

    #45 -

    You know, I am going to take great pleasure in the day Palin announces she will not run, or every day that she loses a straw poll, or Caucus, or Primary – and then finally the day she drops out, and does not get selected for VP.

    Because THEN, FINALLY, you will have to stop your incoherent and unsupported blather about how everything she touches turns to Gold.

  50. teledude Says:

    44./48. Who wants to support a long shot with no money, who needs a miracle finish in Iowa to even be relevant?

    He is a Governor from the state right next door and he has practically lived in Iowa for the past year and yet..3.5%? LOL

    People need to forget about this pitiful campaigner with zero chance.

    So many on here have said he might make a good ‘consolation’ candidate…well he ain’t going to be around long enough for that to play out.

    He doesn’t have the money.
    He has no natural constituency.
    He has no ‘reason’ to run, no message, other than he wants to be president. …it just ain’t happening.

  51. Jeff Fuller Says:

    Once again Romney keeps Obama at his lowest numbers (only 44% . . . compared to 54% vs Palin, 52% vs Newt, 48% vs TPaw, and 46% vs even Huck). This is borne out in poll after poll, both national and state levels, almost without exception.

    The reason? . . .

    IT’S HARD TO VOTE FOR OBAMA WHEN THERE IS SUCH A COMPETENT AND ACCOMPLISHED ALTERNATIVE AGAINST HIM!

    Though Mitt’s numbers aren’t extremely high, keeping Obama lower is even more important. The “no opinion” or “neither” folks who are abstaining right now are MUCH more likely to “hold their noses” and vote for the competent alternative (even if he’s from Massachusetts or a Mormon or a “flip-flopper” or whatever their objection is) than to pull the lever for 4 more years of Barry-O mess.

  52. TheRace Says:

    How are people so blind as to think Huckabee would make a decent president during economic woes? The dude is great on social issues, we get it. But I’m still not sold on his economic credentials—he doesn’t have what it takes to be a leader on economic issues.

  53. TheRace Says:

    Jeff Fuller,

    Well said.

  54. Jeff Fuller Says:

    Oh yeah, and there’s NO WAY Obama’s gonna win re-election with 44% of the vote (unless Trump or Bloomberg try to pull a Perot . . . don’t see that happening unless we put up Sarah as the alternative)

  55. Truth101 Says:

    I sorry but I have never heard of this poll but if its floats your boat so be it.

    I love polls because with Mrs. Palin the polls will do the opposite of their intent. Mrs. Palin will
    get into the race because of the low polling numbers.

    If there is one thing about Mrs. Palin that we can all agree on the woman loves a good fight.

    Stay tune.

  56. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    Jeffy,

    See #21.

    .1 difference.

  57. Watchinitall Says:

    #37 Fine. Sarah is running. I want her to run. I want Huck to run. I want the fullest spectrum of the Republican Party represented in the race as possible. I have a favorite, but it won’t kill me to see someone else nominated.

    Tha only way Sarah’s or Huck’s supporters, like you, will ever be at peace with the result of the nomination, is for your horse to get in it, and let the chips fall.

    When popular Rudy and popular Fred flamed out in ’08, their fans couldn’t say they didn’t get their chance, and that made it easier for them to move on. Sarah and Mike should definitely run. It’s best for the Party. Either that, or step away now so the process can go forward in a way that’s healthy for the Party.

    What isn’t healthy for the Party is for Fox stars with a financial interest in appearing to be candidates truncating the calendar and hogging the spotlight in an embarrassingly drawn out political strip-tease that stops short of exposing their real motives and leaves them wealthier at the expense of the Party and the process.

  58. Jeff Fuller Says:

    tele . . .

    If they BASH Palin, this increases her street cred with the conservative base and “rallies the troops” to her and gives her an advantage IN THE GOP PRIMARY!!

    They are only “praising” Romney because they know that will hurt him with the conservative base and hedge up his path to the nomination.

    Very different scenarios we have there . . .

  59. Truth101 Says:

    Craig, See #21

    I like your numbers but the truth of the matter is Obama still beats your man.

    It doesn’t matter if it is by 20 or by 1 it is still a lost and that is why Huckaberry won’t run.

  60. Smack1968 Says:

    Palin is endorsing TPAW!

    Follow logic:

    1. Palin is endorsing a GOV.
    2. That leaves TPAW-Romney-Barbor-Huck
    3. Huck not running
    4. Romney=Romneycare..Palin no like big time
    5. Barbor vs. TPAW for endorsement….

    Hockey mom (Palin)endorses Hockley player (TPAW) in the middle of a hockey rink next Winter in MN.

    It’s gonna happen.

    Oh tele,

    You won’t be able to use that 3.5% for TPAW argument much longer…hang in there bud.

  61. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    47.7 for Obama versus 47.8 for Obama

  62. teledude Says:

    52. It doesn’t matter, Huck isn’t running anyway.

    His wife told him ‘No Way José’

    He has no money.

    With Obama raising a Billion dollars for 2012, we can’t put up a guy that can’t raise any money. Period. He knows this and that’s why, despite his glowing poll numbers, he will not run.

  63. TEX Says:

    Even morons know that all of these meaningless,worthless propaganda “polls” coming from the left are not worth the paper they are written on.

    What is the purpose of these lefty “polls” when we don’t even know who is going to run?
    Who paid for it?And for what?

    The only poll that I can trust is few days before the election.That’s the only time pollsters have to defend their
    reputation.Today there is no way to verify none of this garbage.

    Is anybody going to remember this “poll” tomorrow?
    I don’t think so.

  64. Truth101 Says:

    Most Americans don’t even know that Huckabee is a Baptist minster

    The elector will never put a baptist minster in the WH.

    Why do you think the dems want Huckaberry so bad?

    Huck knows this and that is why he won’t run.

  65. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    It’s going to be tough but doable against Obama if we nominate the right candidate that can win back the Bush states needed.

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_palin_vs_obama-1169.html

  66. Jeff Fuller Says:

    C4Huck . . . appreciate the heads up there and that data.

    But did you really just quote data that has Romney being a better general election matchup vs Obama than Huck?!?!?! . . . almost a full percentage point closer? :)

    Actually Huckabee does pretty good at keeping Obama low as well. He and Romney are by far the best at this. The reasoning though is different I think. Huck’s MUCH higher favorability ratings get him more of the “funny Baptist Preacher” or “guy you’d like to have a beer with” fence-sitters. Romney does this with much lower favorability ratings because of his record and competence. I really feel that a track record of accomplishment and success is going to “wear better” through a long primary/general election process than likability/favorability. Huck’s numbers would come WAY down once he had the DNC attack machine hedging up his way. That’s the way this Romney fan sees it at least . . .

  67. teledude Says:

    60.

    Palin will NEVER endorse Pawlenty. After Iowa he’s gone (okay, maybe SC, then bye bye)

    She has already said the current field is lacking. That’s why she will be forced to run.

    She loves this country too much to watch these pitiable political midgets try to take on Obama.

    hey Smack, are you raising any money for T-Paw? LOL

  68. Dave Says:

    #37 Tele…Palin was NOT offered a second year of her reality show. She has always been about one thing money. You and the rest of her small cult at C4P can share your little stories about how wonderful she is for the rest of your life and she still will not be presidential. Even Sarah knows she doesn’t have even a slim chance of winning the GOP nomination. She will tease C4P as long as possible. She knows that her cash cow will die the minute she announces the truth (for once in her life) that she is not running.

  69. Truth101 Says:

    Craig and Jeff,

    Baptist minster is a big no-no.

    Find somebody else to back because Huck ain’t going to happen.

  70. Dave Says:

    Tele, do you actually think she could beat Obama? I do want her to run, just to see how funny her attempt to debate Obama…or anyone else will be. She’s just pathetic on so many levels.

  71. AnneMarie Says:

    I do see one possible advantage for Palin’s numbers being so lousy. NH allows registered independents to vote in either primary. Assume Obama does not face a primary challenge. What’s to stop left-leaning independents in NH for raiding the GOP primary and voting for Palin? If people think I’m nuts, then you don’t realize how desperate the liberals are for Obama to be re-elected and how much the liberal media would love an Obama vs. Palin general election. Think of the TV ratings!

  72. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    Jeff,

    Put on your glasses. Not 1 but.1

  73. Watchinitall Says:

    #42 MWS, I’ll agree, but shows can be cancelled, dependent on ratings, as they are, and my guess is that Huck stands to be in greater demand and his fees for speaking are related to demand, as long as he is seen as a potential candidate.

    If he’s running, fine, he’s playing it his way. If she’s running, fine, delaying and teasing as a strategy has some potential merit. If it’s all smoke and mirrors to leech off conservatism and “freezes everything in place” so the political celebrity money machines keep pumping away, that, I think, hurts the process.

  74. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    .1%

  75. Truth101 Says:

    Dave,

    If Sarah Palin wanted a second season there would have been a second season.
    She promise she would promote Alaska and she did. How many politicans keep their promises?

    What is Huck about?????? Money, money, money

    How many freckin books has he written?

    Who is moving into a 3 million dollar home?

  76. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    REAL CLEAR POLITICS TODAY..

    President Obama Job Approval Polling Data

    Poll Date Sample Approve Disapprove Spread
    RCP Average 3/14 – 3/30 — 47.3 46.5 +0.8

    Rasmussen Reports 3/28 – 3/30 … -11
    Gallup 3/27 – 3/29 … +5
    Quinnipiac 3/22 – 3/28 … -6
    CBS News 3/18 – 3/21 … +8
    CNN 3/18 – 3/20 1012 … +4
    FOX News 3/14 – 3/16 … +5

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_obama_job_approval-1044.html

  77. Smack1968 Says:

    tele,

    Tomorrow is the 1st day of the new quarter and TPAW will do just find with his numbers. TPAW will not raise as much as Romney but he will raise enough cash to propell the campaign to a TPAW vs. Romney.

    And when that happens… it’s all TPAW!

  78. Truth101 Says:

    AnneMarie,

    That is what we are hoping for because the independents are nothing but a bunch of liberals anyway.

  79. birch Says:

    There’s little sign Palin is running but her fast “fall” has been specific vis-a-vis Huckabee. If he doesn’t run, polls show her very close to the top. In other words, decent chance she’s only interested in running if Huckabee is out which (a) is at least a 50-50 shot if not better (b) won’t be clarified for many more months. But she has the luxury of getting in months from now and still being competitive.

  80. Dave Says:

    Palin won’t be competition for anyone…no matter how late she gets in.

  81. teledude Says:

    68./ 70. Congratulations.

    You can parrot the false media narrative almost perfectly.

    You are a sheep.

    She will destroy Obama in a debate. She is NOT the caricature she is portrayed to be, that’s her secret weapon.

    Your opinion has been formed by late night comics and a left wing press trying to destroy her.

    Usually it’s only the groupthink morons in the democrat party that fall for it, but I guess we have a few on our side as well.

    For the most part she has become a reflecting pool of liberal pathology. Those idiots are always projecting their shortcomings on to her.

    Those lacking in intelligence will scream, “She’s stupid!”
    Those lacking in sanity will scream, “She’s crazy!”
    Those lacking in achievement will scream, ‘She’s unqualified!”
    Those lacking in civility will scream, ‘She’s divisive!”

    It’s actually pretty fun to watch.

    oh, Dave, thanks for self identifying. Now all know a little more about you :-)

  82. I said it so it must be so Says:

    50. “He has no natural constituency”

    Funny… I suddenly had the image of the southern politician in “Oh Brother, where art thou”, right before he’s literally run out of town on a rail:

    “COME ON NOW! IS YOU OR IS YOU NOT MY CONSTIUNCY?!”

    What an awesome movie.

  83. Dave Says:

    Tele…you are just as much fun as the quitter. You’re equally stupid and equally crazy. You are just pathetic, as is the rest of her very small, very sick cult. Now run back to the Cee of Pee and whine, just like your leader. The only thing she has not quit doing is whining.

  84. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    Whoo hoo!

    The MLB season begins today 8)

    It appears Telly is still playing in the fantasy leagues. ;)

  85. TEX Says:

    68,70 Dave,

    You are showing pathological hate toward Sarah Palin.
    It can’t be based on politics,unless you are libtard.

    Assuming you are not libtard,why are you so hateful?
    Some guys hate beautiful women because of their manhood
    short comings and inadequacies…Of course that’s not you.
    Right?

  86. teledude Says:

    83. Who do you support Dave?

  87. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    You’re back!

    Yesterday you called Pawlenty a “fraud” and a “phony” because he used to support Cap & Trade. You didn’t know Sarah used to support this as well. When I pointed that out (with a link) and asked if that ALSO makes Sarah a fraud, you went silent.

    Do you have anything to say?

  88. Dave Says:

    Tele….Since you’ve made it your business, I support Romney. Sarah is without a doubt, the biggest con artist fraud in the history of politics. Thank God her 15 minutes are over. This has not been a good week for her. She just cannot shut her mouth. One would think she’s get tired of the taste of foot in her mouth. Whine, whine, whine.

  89. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    I have to admit, I couldn’t have set that up better if I tried. Before I saw the thread, you were calling me out and talking trash and calling TPaw names and questioning his integrity because he used to support C&T.

    It’s times like that that make we wonder if you’re just doing a parody of a crazed and ill informed Palindrone.

  90. TEX Says:

    83 Dave

    “You’re equally stupid and equally crazy. You are just pathetic, as is the rest of her very small, very sick cult”.
    ====================================
    You continue to be personally very insulting to some
    people on this site.

    STF your big sewer trap and crawl back under the rock you
    came from.

  91. Smack1968 Says:

    Matt & TEX

    Both Palin & TPAW are true Conservatives.

    Palin is a great women who loves this country.

    Palin is not running for President.

    TPAW is a great man who oves this country.

    TPAW is running hard for President.

    There is only one candidate who can unite the Conservatives, unite the GOP party and play to win in some blue states…..

    Tim Pawlenty!!!

    Pawlenty/Rubio 2012!

  92. teledude Says:

    Now, Dave, this is very interesting.

    Building on my previous theory that Palin’s opponents suffer from psychological projection, you call her…and I quote “the biggest con artist fraud in the history of politics”

    This coming from a supporter of the original plastic banana, good time rock and roll, stiff as a board, fraud himself, Mr. Nice hair! Romney. (“if you don’t like my positions on the issues, I will change them!”)

    oh man, you’re killin’ me!

    thanks again for reinforcing my hypothesis!

    You really should stop now.

    We get it. You are incapable of thinking for yourself.

    Dude, saying anything more will just make you look worse.

  93. Smack1968 Says:

    Palin can rev up some of the base…

    Huck can provide Southern Evangelic support…

    Barbor can bring on the establishment…

    Romney can help with the Moderates….

    Gingrich can be the idea man….

    ..all for the next President of The United States..

    President Timothy James Pawlenty

  94. teledude Says:

    Smack, that’s some funny stuff, but don’t quit your day job.

    Your stand up career may not last very long.

  95. unseen Says:

    I wonder what the numbers will look like when the negative ads against Mitt and Huck start. If Mitt and Huck can not beat Obama after having two years of positive press. They can’t beat Obama it’s as simple as that. Their numbers will tank once the press and the DNC go on the attack. Conversely I wonder what gov Palin’s numbers will look like after she campaigns and gets her positive record out there….

  96. Bob Hovic Says:

    Dave (88): “Sarah is without a doubt, the biggest con artist fraud in the history of politics.”

    Not even close. I’ll take Aaron Burr, off the top of my head, but I’m sure if I gave it a few moments thought I could come up with quite a few others.

  97. Dave Says:

    Sarah wishes her hair looked as good as Romney’s. I wonder how many wigs she uses to cover the bald spots? You can try to make fun of Romney all you want. The fact still remains, Sarah is not relevant. She has no plans to run for president, even she knows she doesn’t stand even a slim chance of winning the GOP nomination.

    One of the main problems is Palin believes the nonsense she reads on C4P about herself. C4P recently stated that the reason President Obama “attacked Libya” was because he was so upset about Palin stealing the spotlight while in India and Israel. That’s the kind of crazy C4P spins. When asked to read material pertinent to the campaign in 2008, they found her reading her messages from prayer warriors and talking about how great they were. She needs to be the center of attention at all times and yet she is getting nothing but people laughing at her now. Even a few months ago, they would have been talking about her FB posts on the morning shows, now there is no mention of her except in talking about how she’s slipped so far in the polls. With two books coming out and one of them is going to do some serious damage because it is quoting sources who are being named, along with the emails which may or may not be big news depending on how redacted they are, Palin is running scared. She should be, she’s yesterday’s news. Thank goodness Romney is honest and doesn’t have a dysfunctional family.

  98. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Bob,

    ” but I’m sure if I gave it a few moments thought I could come up with quite a few others.”

    JD Hayworth?

  99. TEX Says:

    “Do you have anything to say”?
    ==================================

    Plenty!Always!

    There are other things I do at nights besides having laughs
    on account of squishy milquetoasts.

    Sarah Palin has never supported Crap & Tax and you know it.
    T-Paw squish did,that’s why he’s fighting not to be Romney.

    He is just like Romney.All you need to know is my saying:
    “There is not a plug nickle of difference between all
    squishy moderates contenders,pretenders”.

    * Michael Savage Calls Palin the “Only Honorable Woman in the Political Landscape”

    Another true,real conservative with 10 million listeners
    every dayon his show,has nothing but the best to say about de facto conservative leader in America.

  100. Matt "MWS" Says:

    John Edwards?

  101. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    Clearly, you didn’t read my link. Sarah Palin wanted to cap emissions. She even said so during her debate with Biden, which tens of millions of people watched. You can even review the YouTube of when Glen Ifil asked her.

    So, according to your standard, Palin’s a “fraud.” Here’s the link again:

    http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/20/sarah-palin/palin-flips-her-support-cap-and-trade/

  102. Smack1968 Says:

    tele,

    Nothing funny about uniting people.

    Have you ever noticed that TPAW is able to speak on MSNBC-CNN-FOX without any problem.

    Have you ever noticed that TPAW won 2 elections in a blue state running as a Conservative?

    Have you ever noticed how well TPAW is doing in these cattle calls/straw polls among Evangelicals and Tea party supporters?

    Tim Pawlenty will unite us all against Obama and we will win.

    Nothing funny about that….just speaking from the heart.

    Pawlenty/Rubio 2012!

  103. Dave Says:

    Palin became more direct about cap-and-trade when she teamed up with McCain, a Republican who famously went against his party in 2003 by introducing a cap-and-trade bill with then-Democrat Joe Lieberman. McCain stuck with his pledge to to lower emissions during the campaign, writing in the March 18, 2008, edition of the Financial Times that “the risks of global warming have no borders.”

    Palin echoed McCain’s platform in the Oct. 2, 2008 vice presidential debate against Joe Biden. (It’s on YouTube . Skip to the 29-minute mark to hear her talk about climate change and cap-and-trade.)

    During the debate, Palin emphasized the importance of energy independence, of “cleaning up the planet” and of “encouraging other nations to come along with us.” She went on to say, “We’ve got to reduce emissions.”

    “We’ve got to become more energy independent for that reason also. … As we rely on other countries that don’t care as much about climate as we do, we’re allowing them to produce, and to emit, and to pollute more than America would ever stand for.”

    When debate host Gwen Ifill asked Palin whether she supported capping carbon emissions, her answer was unequivocal:

  104. Bob Hovic Says:

    Matt: I don’t think Hayworth has ever been at a high enough level to qualify. He’s certainly a con artist, but very much a small-timer.

    I certainly should have thought of Edwards.

    Teledude proposed Romney be added to the list. What do you think?

  105. Smack1968 Says:

    Can someone please post the new PPP poll for Fl that just came out?

    Thank you.

  106. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Bob,

    I wouldn’t put Romney at Edwards’ level. I’d say Romney believes about half of what he says, and seems to have integrity in his private life. It’s just certain areas where he’s “flexible.”

    Edwards, on the other hand, was a complete fraud from start to finish, in every aspect of his life. I remember watching him in ’06 thinking, “I have never seen a more obvious charlatan than this guy.”

  107. Stephen Hall Says:

    105 comments and I have come to the conclusion that the Palin folks are in complete denial. Teledude says that the poll is going Palin’s way despite that she continually recieves a beating at the polls against everybody else, and loses horribly to Obama.

    Tex mocks Pawlenty for supporting Cap&Trade until MWS proved that Palin supported the same thing. His response? Deny she ever said it, despite records showing she did.

    This is essentially the equivalent of sticking their fingers in their ears and singing “I CAN’T HEAR YOU!”

  108. Matt "MWS" Says:

    I think Newt also belongs in the Pantheon of Charlatans.

    The guy shows his Catholic Convert bona fides by pandering to Rev. Hagee- who calls the Catholic Church a “cult” and the “whore of Babylon.”

  109. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Stephen,

    “This is essentially the equivalent of sticking their fingers in their ears and singing “I CAN’T HEAR YOU!”

    Believe it or not, this is the second thread where Tex and I have done this same dance. I provided him with the same link in that thread.

  110. teledude Says:

    Some of you guys might not understand how it works, but as VP you have to support the positions of the Top of the Ticket.

    She is loyal to the party and a good soldier, but many of the things from the 2008 campaign were McCain’s positions she was more or less forced to support to show solidarity. She has since expressed her point of view.

    But that’s fine. She never did a PSA with Nancy Pelosi, or cut a commercial with Janet Napolitano. She does not have the level of a ‘problem’ with this issue as some others have.

    Pawlenty and Gingrich were just pandering. If polls came out tomorrow showing America supported Cap and Trade, they would get back on the band wagon. They have no core. No belief system, other than wanting to get elected.

    Palin is totally different. She has character and the strength of her convictions. She has a backbone. Romney doesn’t even have one of those…

  111. Smack1968 Says:

    Stephen Hall,

    Just go on C4Palin if you need to have a good laugh.

    A couple of weeks ago there was an article comparing TPAW’s book cover to that of Palin’s. Of course TPAW stoled Saracudda’s cover and made it TPAW’s.

    Bbahhhwwwwwaahhhhhaaaaaa!

    Everything Palin is God like..and worse yet..anything that is not Palin is not authentic.

    What a bunch of nuts!

  112. Stephen Hall Says:

    MWS, I was watching that thread when you had it down the first time with Tex.

    As for Hagee, he pretty much showed his true nature when he endorsed the same guy McCain who singled him and Falwell out in 2000 and called them “agents of intolerance”, I think. I could be wrong though.

    The point is, Hagee endorsed him because McCain was the favorite to win, instead of on principle. Back in 2008, I was sorta mad that Hagee didn’t endorse Huck, until I began reading up on him. After that, I praised God he didn’t endorse Huck and endorsed McCain.

  113. TEX Says:

    Matt,
    Enjoy reading this op ed from the energy and conservative leader Sarahcuda.

    Washington Post

    By Sarah Palin
    Tuesday, July 14, 2009

    There is no shortage of threats to our economy. America’s unemployment rate recently hit its highest mark in more than 25 years and is expected to continue climbing. Worries are widespread that even when the economy finally rebounds, the recovery won’t bring jobs. Our nation’s debt is unsustainable, and the federal government’s reach into the private sector is unprecedented.

    Unfortunately, many in the national media would rather focus on the personality-driven political gossip of the day than on the gravity of these challenges. So, at risk of disappointing the chattering class, let me make clear what is foremost on my mind and where my focus will be:

    I am deeply concerned about President Obama’s cap-and-trade energy plan, and I believe it is an enormous threat to our economy. It would undermine our recovery over the short term and would inflict permanent damage.
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    American prosperity has always been driven by the steady supply of abundant, affordable energy. Particularly in Alaska, we understand the inherent link between energy and prosperity, energy and opportunity, and energy and security. Consequently, many of us in this huge, energy-rich state recognize that the president’s cap-and-trade energy tax would adversely affect every aspect of the U.S. economy.

    There is no denying that as the world becomes more industrialized, we need to reform our energy policy and become less dependent on foreign energy sources. But the answer doesn’t lie in making energy scarcer and more expensive! Those who understand the issue know we can meet our energy needs and environmental challenges without destroying America’s economy.

    Job losses are so certain under this new cap-and-tax plan that it includes a provision accommodating newly unemployed workers from the resulting dried-up energy sector, to the tune of $4.2 billion over eight years. So much for creating jobs.

    In addition to immediately increasing unemployment in the energy sector, even more American jobs will be threatened by the rising cost of doing business under the cap-and-tax plan. For example, the cost of farming will certainly increase, driving down farm incomes while driving up grocery prices. The costs of manufacturing, warehousing and transportation will also increase.

    The ironic beauty in this plan? Soon, even the most ardent liberal will understand supply-side economics.

    The Americans hit hardest will be those already struggling to make ends meet. As the president eloquently puts it, their electricity bills will “necessarily skyrocket.” So much for not raising taxes on anyone making less than $250,000 a year.

    Even Warren Buffett, an ardent Obama supporter, admitted that under the cap-and-tax scheme, “poor people are going to pay a lot more for electricity.”

    We must move in a new direction. We are ripe for economic growth and energy independence if we responsibly tap the resources that God created right underfoot on American soil. Just as important, we have more desire and ability to protect the environment than any foreign nation from which we purchase energy today.

    In Alaska, we are progressing on the largest private-sector energy project in history. Our 3,000-mile natural gas pipeline will transport hundreds of trillions of cubic feet of our clean natural gas to hungry markets across America. We can safely drill for U.S. oil offshore and in a tiny, 2,000-acre corner of the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge if ever given the go-ahead by Washington bureaucrat

    Of course, Alaska is not the sole source of American energy. Many states have abundant coal, whose technology is continuously making it into a cleaner energy source. Westerners literally sit on mountains of oil and gas, and every state can consider the possibility of nuclear energy.

    We have an important choice to make. Do we want to control our energy supply and its environmental impact? Or, do we want to outsource it to China, Russia and Saudi Arabia? Make no mistake: President Obama’s plan will result in the latter.

    For so many reasons, we can’t afford to kill responsible domestic energy production or clobber every American consumer with higher prices.

    Can America produce more of its own energy through strategic investments that protect the environment, revive our economy and secure our nation?

    Yes, we can. Just not with Barack Obama’s energy cap-and-tax plan.

    The writer, a Republican, is governor of Alaska.
    ===================================

    Matt,
    Enjoy reading this op ed from the energy and conservative leader of America,the great Sarahcuda.

  114. Stephen Hall Says:

    “She has a backbone.”

    The same backbone that caused her to cut and run from the governorship of Alaska?

    “She has character and the strength of her convictions.”

    “She is loyal to the party and a good soldier, but many of the things from the 2008 campaign were McCain’s positions she was more or less forced to support to show solidarity.”

    Those two statements don’t mesh at all. If she really did have principles, she would have bucked the leadership like all the Palin Fanatics fantasize about. Instead, she went along like a meek little lamb. No wonder the wolves came after her.

  115. teledude Says:

    113. oh man, could that have been written by the same person Dave was talking about?

    something is not right here.

    I wonder who has the wrong impression, me (and the 90% of Alaskan’s who approved of her as Governor) or him?

    It’s a legitimate question.

  116. AnneMarie Says:

    Why do folks bother to read C4P if you’re so convinced Palin is not running or would get clobbered if she did? Hmmmm ….

  117. Stephen Hall Says:

    Huckabee had two and a half terms of service as a governor. Pawlenty and Romney has or will have completed their 1st terms, yet Sarah Palin can’t even be bothered to do that.

    That is what I call a coward.

  118. TEX Says:

    Matt,

    Reducing pollution is always great idea.
    That’s all energy leader and conservative leader of America
    Sarah Palin ever said.

    You’re desperately trying to equate that with Crap & Tax.

    No dice!

  119. Stephen Hall Says:

    There is no need to read C4P when you guys come here instead.

  120. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    Yes, that is the op-ed from Sarah that demonstrated the flip that first prompted the article I linked.

    Good golly, are you following any of this????

  121. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    “Reducing pollution is always great idea.
    That’s all energy leader and conservative leader of America
    Sarah Palin ever said.”

    No…… it’s not. Do you read anything that isn’t posted on C4P, such as…. the link I posted, or maybe watching Sarah’s debate with Biden?

  122. Bob Hovic Says:

    Matt: I remember watching him in ’06 thinking, “I have never seen a more obvious charlatan than this guy.”

    Almost word-for-word what I used to say about Richard Nixon when I’d watch him saying, “I am not a crook.”

    I agree that Gingrich belongs on the list. So we now have Aaron Burr, John Edwards, Richard Nixon, and Newt Gingrich.

    I also agree that Romney does not belong in the same class with folks like that (nor does Palin).

  123. Stephen Hall Says:

    Matt, you are speaking to fanatics. Anything that doesn’t involve supplication to Sarah Palin will go through one ear and out the other.

  124. Matt "MWS" Says:

    I post links and provide 3rd party evidence. In rebuttal, Tex just posts more of his own words. I suppose we could send this to the judges……

  125. asparagus Says:

    If Palin doesn’t run, I can see her endorsing Rand Paul, or Ron Paul, should either of them run.

  126. teledude Says:

    114 She did not cut and run. Her resignation was an act of selfless courage.

    By doing so, she won. The left wing haters lost. You may not be bright enough to understand it, and obviously would rather repeat democrat talking points. That doesn’t make you look good dude, but I understand it.

    Governor Palin evokes a strong emotional response from people of low character. Her natural goodness an Christian heart causes banal and vituperous evil snarks to lash out reflexively. They can’t help it, it’s Pavlovian.

    All one has to do is say her name and stand back and watch the spittle fly. This, of course, says much more about them than it does about Governor Palin.

    I suggest you try to stay calm Stephie. Relax and take some deep breaths. You’ll be okay once the image of a beautiful virtuous woman leaves your small mind.

  127. Stephen Hall Says:

    “She did not cut and run. Her resignation was an act of selfless courage.”

    She quit, and nothing says she won’t do the same if she was President. She broke an oath to the people of Alaska who elected her that she will fulfill the entire term she campaigned for. Oaths used to be sacred, now they are nothing more than talk.

    Your attempts at spinning Sarah Palin’s career-ending move are laughable at best, and downright Orwellian at worst.

  128. TEX Says:

    Libs and RINOS are all in knots.
    They can easily accept any republican squish.

    But NOT Sarahcuda.

    For them she’s like cross for Count Dracula.

  129. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    Since you’ve gone back to your cartoon storyboard in #128, I take it you now realize you didn’t know what the hell you were talking about.

    If I makes you feel any better, I don’t think Palin is a fraud just because she used to support Cap & Trade.

  130. Stephen Hall Says:

    Tex, RINO’s is an acronym for republican-in-name-only. Incidently, you fit into that category at as well, since you are recording as supporting Palin rather than the Republican party.

  131. teledude Says:

    127. Wrong, oh small minded cipher.

    The President can’t be sued for frivolous ethics complaints by the public.

    You say she quit when things got tough. Explain what was ‘tough’; why did she resign?

    People resign for a variety of reasons, some very noble. Why was it ‘tough’ in Alaska? What caused her to resign. Be specific.

    Thanks. ;-)

  132. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    ppp tweets..

    Favs in Florida: Huckabee 40/39, Romney 39/39, Bush 44/44, Gingrich 32/48, Palin 32/60:
    about 1 hour ago via web

    Florida could end up being less important next year because Obama may not need it to win:
    about 1 hour ago via web

    Romney and Huckabee are better liked by Florida voters than in other swing states like OH and VA: http://tinyurl.com/4j7vcb8
    about 1 hour ago via web

  133. Jeff Fuller Says:

    Truth 101 (comment 69) . . . did you just label me as a Huck supporter? BWWWAAAAAA HAAAAAAA! (I’m sure plenty of other people here are chucking too over that one)

  134. Jeff Fuller Says:

    http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_FL_03311023.pdf

    Did my last one post?

  135. TEX Says:

    Some guys and women have deep pathological problems
    when it comes to Sarah Palin.

    Beautiful Sarah brings and amplify their suffering
    due to their personal inadequacies.

  136. Stephen Hall Says:

    131, the democrats played chicken with her. She blanked first and resigned. No amount of spinning you can make would make that justified.

  137. Dave Says:

    Once again, and this is my FIRST comment on this thread, there is another Dave commenting as Dave. This has happened before, and if it keeps happening, I’ll have to change my nom de plume.

    In any event, while I share my alter ego’s views about Sarah’s electability, I would be more respectful in expressing that viewpoint. And I wouldn’t refer to any other commenter as stupid, even if tempted to do so.

    As for my views of this poll, I can’t account for Huckabee doing better among Independents…..something that is completely at odds with most other polling. I similarly can’t account for Mitt doing better among Republicans, although this is a pleasant conundrum.

    Mitt holding Obama to a lower total than anyone else, however, IS completely consistent with other polling, and a thing of sheer beauty in its own right.

  138. Jeff Fuller Says:

    From Florida PPP.

    Romney our best bet to get FL back. Down only 2% to Obama. Does even better than Jeb and Rudy.

    Huck down 7%. Sarah down 12%. Those dogs won’t hunt

    I love how C4H pulls out Huck’s Favorability ratings from this poll and doesn’t recognize how dismal Huck’s showing against Obama really was.

    TIME TO GET BEHIND ROMNEY FOLKS!!

  139. Dave Says:

    BTW,

    The last time another Dave came onto a post, it seems like he was for Huck…..at least this one’s for the right guy, however much of a personal problem he seems to have with Sarah.

    My own, oft expressed views of her are that I agree with her philosophically and like her personally, but emphatically deduce her to be unelectable, and not really up to the job if she WERE elected.

  140. teledude Says:

    The term RINO, ‘Republican-in-Name-Only’, originally meant they were in the party, but tended to be more liberal, more democrat-lite, than the normal conservative republican.

    Now with the establishment republican party saying things like ‘the era of Reagan is over;’ we need to be more ‘inclusive’ we need to have a ‘truce’ on social issues, it seems to me the whole party has moved into RINO territory.

    Now saying someone is a RINO is really just a way to say they have the fighting instincts of sheep. They have no spine. No core conviction, or at least not any that true conservatives can recognize. This site is full of them.

    I suggested weeks ago they should change the name here from race42012 to RINOcentral.

    It’s the establishment, Will, Krauthammer, Brooks, inside the beltway mentality that has been rejected by conservatives and the Tea Party.

    You know, the ones that always strap us with the likes of Ford, Bush, Dole, Bush, McCain, …and now…Romney? No thanks.

    We’ve only been able to buck the establishment once, with Reagan. He was as hated as Palin is now. They said he would lose in a landslide. Some said if he were the nominee the GOP was over. Yet he turned out to be the greatest president of our lifetime, because he was a real conservative. It’s the values that are important, not the little ‘R; behind the name.

    Maybe instead of RINO, we should change the name to CINO. Conservative-in-Name-Only…apparently Republicans are no longer the party of conservatism. Bush was a ‘big government’ Republican, as are most in the running now.

    They may not be RINO’s, they are certainly CINO’s.

  141. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Telly,

    Would you call someone a CINO if they support TARP, the repeal of DADT, the legalization of pot, and used to support Cap and Trade?

  142. Dave Says:

    Jeff,

    So, not only will Mitt win Florida in the Primary, he’s our best bet in the state in the General.

    By now, it’s clear that the state is going early, and will be pivotal in wrapping up the nomination for Romney. Five points better than the Huckster in the state is dispositive from an electability standpoint.

    c.f., Bush/Gore.

  143. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Dave,

    You don’t believe PPP polls, remember?

  144. Matt "MWS" Says:

    ..and you do love that word, “dispositive.”

  145. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    Jeff,

    Great to see you’ve finally come around to PPP. What a coincidence it happened when Romney finally had a decent showing.

    Now don’t whine TOO MUCH when the Florida PRIMARY numbers come out tomorrow. ;)

  146. Dave Says:

    Selfless courage….give me a break. Sarah is the most narcissistic person in the world. She has absolutely NO courage. If she did she would have severed out her term. She was too much of a coward to face up to the Alaskan bloggers. Those smart bloggers continue doing their work as we speak. They know everything about her skeletons and plan to bring all of them out of the closet if she decides to run for president. I cannot wait!

  147. Dave Says:

    Dude,

    As a matter of intellectual curiosity, who gave you the right to determine who’s a RINO or CINO??
    And, if you knew ANYTHING about Romney, you would know that he is very different from Ford, Bush, Dole, Bush, or McCain.

    Some of us on this site worked very hard to keep McCain, e.g., from getting the nomination and accurately, and graphically, predicted the end result of his getting the nomination.

  148. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    Dave has the same “selective polling” problem as Jeff. As do most Rombots. Must be contagious or something.. ;)

  149. Dave Says:

    BTW,

    #146 wasn’t me either.

    Matt, While I don’t think PPP has much of any credibility, and while I suspect them of trying to foist Huckabee on us in a deft effort to re-elect Obama, you go with what you’ve got…..and I’m not above citing their polls when they stumble onto the truth.

    My conviction is that Mitt is MORE than 5 points better than Huckabee in Florida vis a vis Obama, but I can’t prove it until the matter is resolved by more professionally competent pollsters.

  150. CF Says:

    So, the left-leaning PPP still has Romney beating Huck in a match-up against Obama. I bet if it were Rasmussen, Romney would be ahead.

  151. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    teledude Says:
    March 31st, 2011 at 1:52 pm
    “I suggested weeks ago they should change the name here from race42012 to RINOcentral.”

    ===

    Nope, that’s reserved in the blogosphere for your very own fanboy home base at the nutty C4P.

  152. teledude Says:

    It’s too bad we can’t get the level of vitriol directed at Governor Palin to be channeled toward the bastard in the White House.

    Of course, that wouldn’t be cordial. We must remain respectful.

    This is the problem today with the sheep in the republican party. In Obama we’ve got a real threat to the American way of life; freedom and a free market economy, and republicans can only muster their outrage toward a housewife from Alaska because she threatens their power structure. She doesn’t fit in with their go-along-to-get-along plans.

  153. Metro Says:

    Are you guys going to waste your time on teledude and Tex for the next half a year?

  154. Dave Says:

    BTW,

    A piece of evidence, or pieces OF evidence, is/are dispositive, if it/they conclusively decide the truth of a legal question.

  155. teledude Says:

    So far I’ve been able to keep the good Dave and the evil Dave separate.

    Let’s hope another one doesn’t appear.

  156. Dave Says:

    Metro,

    We’ll probably be forced to.

  157. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    150.CF Says:
    March 31st, 2011 at 2:05 pm
    “So, the left-leaning PPP still has Romney beating Huck in a match-up against Obama. I bet if it were Rasmussen, Romney would be ahead.”

    ====

    Actually PPP is not that nice to Huck as you think..

    General Election: Huckabee vs. Obama

    Polling Data

    PPP (D) 3/10 – 3/13 … Obama +5
    Newsweek/Daily Beast 2/12 – 2/15 Tie
    FOX News 2/7 – 2/9 911 Obama +8
    NBC News/Wall St. Jrnl 1/13 – 1/17 … Obama +10
    Rasmussen Reports 1/11 – 1/14 … Tie
    McClatchy/Marist 1/6 – 1/10 … Obama +12

    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_huckabee_vs_obama-1170.html

  158. teledude Says:

    153. All they have to do is knock off the bullsh*t about her and I got nothin’ to argue about. She is held to a different standard, and I’m going to respond.

    It’s bad enough we have to put up with this crap from the moronic liberals.

    Don’t start none
    Won’t be none

    Maybe you can get them to stop?

    You don’t have to support Governor Palin, but lies will get responded to, just as you would respond if someone were spreading lies about your candidate.

  159. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Metro,

    “Are you guys going to waste your time on teledude and Tex for the next half a year?”

    It kind of depends on my mood. Half year max, though, cause there’s no way they are still around here after the debates get cranking.

  160. Dave Says:

    Dude,

    Maybe this will help. I’m off to work, so any comments by any Dave after this one today are by the new-guy Dave.

  161. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Dave,

    “…..and I’m not above citing their polls when they stumble onto the truth.”

    LOL! And how would you know when they’ve done that, absent any *dispositive* supporting evidence? When they conform with your own desires or biases?

  162. TEX Says:

    141 Matt,

    You are so intellectually dishonest,your crap is not
    worth response.

  163. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Telly,

    “She is held to a different standard, and I’m going to respond.”

    Indeed she is. Tex said formerly supporting C&T made TPaw a fraud and a phony. He doesn’t believe Palin’s former support of C&T means anything though.

    That’s clearly a different standard. You should respond to that.

  164. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Well, speaking of intellectual dishonesty…….

    Welcome back, Tex!

    Was anything I wrote in #141 untrue about Sarah?

  165. Watchinitall Says:

    Bob and MWS I was going to nominate a governor from Illinois for the fraud pols pile you are gathering, and then I had to ask myself, “which one?”.

  166. TEX Says:

    140 Teledude,

    Well said,much better than I could.
    Look,RINOs and CINOs are the same conservative phonies,
    fakes and frauds.

  167. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Watch,

    They stand as one collective whole. In fact, we’ve had the same governor for decades, he just possesses different bodies.

  168. Still Hurting Says:

    Before we write Sarah off completely, remember that IA and NV are caucuses. Remember what Sharon Angle did in NV, or many of the other TPs, in small turnout caucuses. Remember Mike Lee in UT.

    What does it do for the race if Sarah fares well in those small early races? Kind of messes up TPaw, Newt, and Barbour.

  169. teledude Says:

    You know, you can always tell which candidate is the ‘front runner’ because they take all the heat. Everyone gangs up on the one perceived to be winning.

    Notice how everyone on here is attacking Romney and ..oh, wait

    LOL

    Yeah, you guys have proved it. Thanks for the confirmation.

    Your actions belie your words.

  170. Dave Says:

    Teledude…you crack me up. You actually believe your dribble. Whine, whine, everybody picks on the quitter because she’s the “front runner”. OMG, you are just as delusional as the quitter. Hahahahah LOL..you’re a hoot.

  171. Stephen Hall Says:

    MWS, maybe the governor is actually a spirit possessing whichever body wins the election in Illinois…

  172. Stephen Hall Says:

    Hey teledude, maybe its because she is the weakest, and we smell blood in the water. That, and “picking” on her as you like to say just amuses us.

  173. TEX Says:

    “Was anything I wrote in #141 untrue about Sarah”?
    =========================

    Everything!

    Sarah Palin said that cops have better things to do than
    waste hours and hours of arresting,taking to jail,processing
    people for finding small amount of pot.

    The jails are overwhelmed with people like that.

    When did Sarah Palin advocate legalization of pot?
    You know she never did!At least in my eyes you lost any
    integrity you had.

    If we need to engage in outright lies to degrade and malign
    somebody,it’s more reflection on us than anyone else.

    I like to make jokes and fun about liberal-moderates who pretend to be conservatives(that’s the only way to hope
    for nomination),but I would never lie about them.

    First of all it would make me as phony as them and secondly
    it’s all on the open,I can prove easily who is fake,phony
    and a fraud.

  174. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    teledude Says:
    March 31st, 2011 at 2:29 pm
    “You know, you can always tell which candidate is the ‘front runner’ because they take all the heat. Everyone gangs up on the one perceived to be winning.”

    ===

    Telly,

    I don’t think she would be the ‘front runner’ for Wasilla Dog catcher today.

  175. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    Now if she would have remained the Governor of Alaska..

    That would be a different story, imho.

  176. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    New poll thread up top.

  177. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Telly,

    “You know, you can always tell which candidate is the ‘front runner’ because they take all the heat. Everyone gangs up on the one perceived to be winning.”

    Like when Christine O’Donnell was winning her election going away?

    oh, wait……

  178. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    #173

    You didn’t quite get to the “everything” part. Keep going…..

  179. TEX Says:

    I never got the answer from “moderates” on this site:

    When Sarah Palin gets the nomination what are the twisted,
    spineless RINOS going to do?

    Vote for comrade Obama,sit home in fetal position,or jump
    off the cliff?

  180. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    LOL! You are absolutely shameless and completely intellectually bankrupt. I spent 2 or 3 threads answering that questino in #179 and trying to get you to acknowledge the answer, figuring you’d be whining again about how nobody will answer your silly question.

    So, I guess you didn’t really mean “everything” when you wrote “everything”…..

    When are you going to call Palin a fraud for supporting caps on carbon emissions?

  181. TEX Says:

    “You didn’t quite get to the “everything” part. Keep going…..”
    ==============================

    It’s plenty,more than enough to expose you,to show that you
    have no intellectual honesty.

  182. TEX Says:

    Craig,

    Telly,

    I don’t think she would be the ‘front runner’ for Wasilla Dog catcher today.
    ==================================

    Do you really want me to talk about liberal baptist
    preacher from possum infested hills of Arkansas?
    Do you?

    And screams from the graves that bleeding heart liberal preacher caused,directly or indirectly!

    Are you sure you want to be nasty?

  183. Jeff Fuller Says:

    C4Huck . . . I think you’re incorrect in assuming that I’m one that beats the “PPP is garbage/liberal” drum (like others have). I’ve maybe hinted that I wasn’t a huge fan once or twice several months ago, but hardly what you’re implying of all us RomBots.

  184. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    You know what’s really twisted?

    The way you repeatedly (often several times in one thread) falsely accuse others of the precise things you do. I’ve debated a lot of pathological people over the years, but I’ve never seen anyone do it with the sort of bald faced bravado and consistency with which you do it.

  185. TEX Says:

    Matt,

    What makes you think you are included in cabal of twisted,
    spineless RINOS?

    Getting touchy?Overly defensive?Why?
    You are not one of them.

  186. TEX Says:

    Matt,

    Before I go,I exposed your bold lies about Sarah Palin
    and you are huffing and puffing.

    You see,all the lies and nastiness on this site toward
    Palin doesn’t mean diddly squat.I respond because I happen
    be on the thread,not to defend her.

    Defend her against who?Few RINOS?
    Hell no,their crap means nothing to anybody.I’m not sure you
    understand this simple fact.No matter.

  187. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    “What makes you think you are included in cabal of twisted,
    spineless RINOS?”

    Ummmm… because you’ve said I was. About a thousand times.

  188. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    But I am looking forward to the thread where you start calling me out and laughing and calling Pawlenty names because he quit halfway through his first term.

  189. Stephen Hall Says:

    “Tex,

    You know what’s really twisted?

    The way you repeatedly (often several times in one thread) falsely accuse others of the precise things you do. I’ve debated a lot of pathological people over the years, but I’ve never seen anyone do it with the sort of bald faced bravado and consistency with which you do it.”

    It’s called projection, with a tad bit of A-grade lunacy involved.

  190. Stephen Hall Says:

    I would not be surprised if he (or she) was a punk middle-or-high schooler on a computer talking out of his behind not knowing he/she is just digging a deeper hole for themselves.

    For God’s sakes, even the insults he/she spews rank of being school-grade instead of the sophisticated insults an adult often uses.

  191. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Stephen,

    Tex is actually French, so he’s insulting people in his second (or third) language.

    So I cut him some slack there……..

  192. Stephen Hall Says:

    French, huh? Aren’t they good for waving the white flag and calling it quits when the going gets tough? No wonder he likes Palin.

  193. Matt "MWS" Says:

    …that’s the reputation, anyway…..

    Good wine though.

  194. Stephen Hall Says:

    Nice women too.

  195. TEX Says:

    Stephie,

    I told you to lay off personal insults,to avoid being nasty
    and uncivil,I won’t let you slide.

    When you see I’m not around you open your big sewer trap and
    talk crap.

    So,you think French raise white flag,where did you learn that Stephie?

    Let’s see,if French raise white flag,what would a little sissy coward do in the same situation?

    A)Wave his white panties or

    B)If his panties are not white,to make sure that he doesn’t
    get shot “he” will wave and flesh something else to show full
    and complete surrender.

    What would you do Stephie,A or B?

  196. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    That was just bizarre.

    But to be fair, everyone talks a lot of crap to you when you’re around too.

  197. TEX Says:

    187-Matt

    “Ummmm… because you’ve said I was. About a thousand times”.
    ========================================

    Again,you twist my words.

    Not that I care,I don’t,but I never called you RINO.
    Moderate yes,but not RINO.I even told you why you are moderate in my book,because you asked me.

    In grand scheme of things what’s the difference anyway?

  198. TEX Says:

    That was just bizarre.

    But to be fair, everyone talks a lot of crap to you when you’re around too.
    ====================================

    What’s bizarre?
    And who is talking crap when I’m around?

    Stephie and you?

  199. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    “In grand scheme of things what’s the difference anyway?”

    I don’t know Tex, you tell me. You’re the one who always throws around terms RINO, moderate, squish, milquetoast, etc…. and to my eye, use them all interchangeably. If you would like to host a seminar to explain the subtle nuances in those terms, be my guest.

  200. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    “What’s bizarre?”

    If I have to explain it, it’s probably not worth it. Chalk it up to an impenetrable cultural barrier.

  201. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    Don’t you find the slightest bit of irony in the fact that you’re Palin’s most rabid drone here, despite the fact that:

    1. You’re French. Nothing wrong with that per se (unless there’s a war to be won, but if you ask your fellow Palindrones what they think of the French, you’re likely to hear a lot about “cheese eating surrender monkeys”).

    2. You judge people by where they’re from and what college you think they went to, even though Sarah has been the victim of many such judgements.

    3. You promote socialist healthcare, despite your constant professed disdain for anyone more moderate than Palin.

  202. TEX Says:

    1. You’re French.
    =========================

    How do you know?Who told you that?
    I’m not saying one thing or the other,but I know I never
    said anything about my nationality,that’s irrelevant.

    What’s the difference anyway?
    You have problem with some nationalities.

    You see,you are shifting political discourse,good,bad or ugly,but political interchange to what my nationality is.

    WTF is the difference to you what nationality I am?
    What that has to do with me telling you that T-Paw is
    squishy milquetoast?!

  203. TEX Says:

    3. You promote socialist healthcare,
    ========================================

    You’re lying again,man you have no integrity worth
    a worm spit.

    I don’t promote anything,I told you what I know:
    French health care cost is less than half what’s here.
    And service and hospitals are excellent.

    You don’t like to hear the truth,do you?Just like in political discussion.If you don’t like what you hear
    you talk crap,nonsense.
    dicusion

  204. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    I don’t have a problem with the fact that you’re French. I just think it’s….. ironic.

    You’re the one who goes off on people based on where they’re from, calling them ignorant hicks or some such name.

  205. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    I didn’t say your stats are wrong about France. I said it’s socialist health care. You defend it, you think it’s awesome. That’s your right. Once again, I just find it…… ironic.

    Have you ever praised your country’s health care system over at C4P?

  206. TEX Says:

    2. You judge people by where they’re from and what college you think they went to,
    =====================================

    Wrong,nonsense again.
    I judge people by what they say and what they do!

    You’ve been on this site for years,right?
    You became expert in twisting people words.

    That’s bad thing to do,but there is good news.
    I don’t care how twisted your comments are,it’s just part
    of visiting this site.

  207. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    “I judge people by what they say and what they do!”

    No you don’t, or you would call Palin a “fraud” for previously supporting a cap on carbon emissions just like you called TPaw a “fraud” for the exact same thing.

  208. Matt "MWS" Says:

    …..either that, or retract what you said about Pawlenty.

  209. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    So have you ever shared your thoughts on French health care over at C4P?

  210. TEX Says:

    Sarah Palin was never for Crap&Tax,T-Paw was.
    Nobody can change that,period.

    Saying that it’s good idea to reduce pollution and making
    commercials with Nancy Pelosi and Napolitano promoting C&T
    are things that can not be compared.

    When I say fraud it’s not because of C&T,no.I didn’t even know about T-Paw’s commercial with Napolitano.
    I didn’t research,I didn’t care.No matter what I find he can
    never be my candidate.In my book he’s notconservative,period.

    It’s the whole cabal of pretending to be conservative and
    T-Paw is moderate at best,not conservative.
    He’s still a nice,good,decent man,but not conservative.

    Conservative CAN NOT become governor in Massachusetts,N.J
    or liberal Minnesota.Get it?

  211. TEX Says:

    209

    No,it never came up.When it does I will not discuss it,
    I know very little about the subject,but I will tell
    anybody,Sarah Palin too if she would ask me,what I know
    from personal experience about French,Italian,Swiss…..
    health care.

    The cost for each country can be found easily,nobody needs
    my input.

  212. Matt "MWS" Says:

    Tex,

    “Sarah Palin was never for Crap&Tax”

    Well, it’s your word against Sarah’s.

  213. TEX Says:

    Matt,

    I watched again the part of VP debate.Sarah Palin never
    used the word Cap & Trade,moderator never asked her about
    C&T or is she for or against it.

    She was for reduction of emissions,but who isn’t?

    The only thing she was saying is that some climate change is real,especially in Alaska,which is true.

    She never said”I absolutely reject idea that man has anything to do with climate change”,but she never said that
    man does either,as Biden firmly stated.

    80% of that segment was Sarah Palin pushing for energy
    independence,which she always does.

    Also,she was under the gun from John McRINO’s well known
    position,he and his best friend flaming liberal(neocon)
    Joe Lieberman in 2003 tried to push C&T through Congress
    and Senate.

    I was always surprised how much and how well she avoided McCain’s C&T swamp.

    T-Paw made commercial with Napolitano(Newt with Pelosi)
    out of his own will,there was no Presidential candidate
    McCain to push him to do that.

    OK,he says he’s sorry,he was stupid about that.
    Fine.This episode never changed my opinion about him in
    any way,good or bad.It just gave me reason for few good laughs.

  214. Stephen Hall Says:

    “So,you think French raise white flag,where did you learn that Stephie?”

    World War II. That and if surrender isn’t an option, they join the enemy.

  215. Stephen Hall Says:

    “So have you ever shared your thoughts on French health care over at C4P?”

    No he hasn’t, he doesn’t have the balls to. After all, he is French.

    “…..either that, or retract what you said about Pawlenty.”

    C’est la vie, MWS. Within a year or so when it comes time for the reaper to meet Palin, Tex and his kind will obviously be stewing in their tears of agaony. It would be wrong for us to kick them while they are down, wouldn’t it?

  216. Stephen Hall Says:

    Considering that Tex is sitting here defending socialized french healthcare, I daresay he is a moderate himself.

  217. TEX Says:

    Stephie

    “No he hasn’t, he doesn’t have the balls to. After all, he is French”.
    ======================================
    How do you know I’m French?

    Since you talk about surrendering a lot,is it true that you use your white panties to surrender?
    Or you dance like ballerina?

    Just curious.

  218. TEX Says:

    Stephie

    “when it comes time for the reaper to meet Palin”
    ====================================

    There were only two reapers connected with only one candidate,and they killed in cold blood 4 police officers and one young,beautiful TV anchor.

    Both REAPERS were connected with liberal,bleeding heart,
    baptist preacher from Arkansas.

    So you hope that reaper meets Sarah Palin and kill her?

    I always knew you’re a sick,psychopathic MF.

  219. Craig for Huck in 2012 Says:

    TEX,

    Using the families deepest hurts and feelings to win partisan political points is even beneath Sarah Palin.

    Question: Is it beneath you?

    If so, stop it now.

  220. TEX Says:

    Craig,

    You don’t get it ,do you?

    I flushed out the sick,psychopathic weirdo who wishes
    Sarah Palin killed.Looks like you don’t concern yourself
    with little things like that.

    The sicko should get official visit from Secret Service or FBI,soon,like right now.

    Oh,almost forgot,you don’t care about Sarah Palin’s well being.What’s your problem,then?

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