PPP (D) South Dakota 2012 Presidential Survey
- John Thune 57%
- Barack Obama 37%
- Mike Huckabee 47%
- Barack Obama 41%
- Mitt Romney 46%
- Barack Obama 40%
- Barack Obama 44%
- Newt Gingrich 42%
- Barack Obama 48%
- Sarah Palin 40%
Among Independents
- John Thune 50%
- Barack Obama 43%
- Barack Obama 50%
- Mike Huckabee 37%
- Barack Obama 49%
- Mitt Romney 32%
- Barack Obama 56%
- Newt Gingrich 31%
- Barack Obama 57%
- Sarah Palin 31%
Among Republicans
- John Thune 85%
- Barack Obama 10%
- Mitt Romney 76%
- Barack Obama 9%
- Mike Huckabee 76%
- Barack Obama 11%
- Newt Gingrich 72%
- Barack Obama 13%
- Sarah Palin 67%
- Barack Obama 18%
Among Democrats
- Barack Obama 70%
- John Thune 23%
- Barack Obama 77%
- Mike Huckabee 13%
- Barack Obama 77%
- Mitt Romney 12%
- Barack Obama 79%
- Newt Gingrich 9%
- Barack Obama 83%
- Sarah Palin 10%
Among Conservatives
- John Thune 85%
- Barack Obama 10%
- Mike Huckabee 77%
- Barack Obama 13%
- Mitt Romney 74%
- Barack Obama 11%
- Newt Gingrich 71%
- Barack Obama 14%
- Sarah Palin 69%
- Barack Obama 17%
Among Moderates
- Barack Obama 52%
- John Thune 40%
- Barack Obama 57%
- Mike Huckabee 27%
- Barack Obama 57%
- Mitt Romney 27%
- Barack Obama 62%
- Newt Gingrich 23%
- Barack Obama 69%
- Sarah Palin 21%
Among Men
- John Thune 59%
- Barack Obama 35%
- Mike Huckabee 50%
- Barack Obama 39%
- Mitt Romney 48%
- Barack Obama 39%
- Newt Gingrich 47%
- Barack Obama 43%
- Sarah Palin 46%
- Barack Obama 44%
Among Women
- John Thune 54%
- Barack Obama 39%
- Mitt Romney 43%
- Barack Obama 42%
- Barack Obama 43%
- Mike Huckabee 43%
- Barack Obama 45%
- Newt Gingrich 38%
- Barack Obama 52%
- Sarah Palin 35%
Favorable / Unfavorable {Net}
- Mike Huckabee 40% / 30% {+10%}
- Mitt Romney 35% / 34% {+1%}
- Newt Gingrich 31% / 43% {-12%}
- Sarah Palin 37% / 55% {-18%}
Among Democrats
- Mike Huckabee 21% / 43% {-22%}
- Mitt Romney 16% / 47% {-31%}
- Newt Gingrich 9% / 66% {-57%}
- Sarah Palin 10% / 84% {-74%}
Among Republicans
- Mike Huckabee 57% / 19% {+38%}
- Sarah Palin 60% / 30% {+30%}
- Mitt Romney 50% / 22% {+28%}
- Newt Gingrich 50% / 24% {+26%}
Among Independents
- Mike Huckabee 35% / 38% {-3%}
- Mitt Romney 31% / 39% {-8%}
- Newt Gingrich 21% / 51% {-30%}
- Sarah Palin 30% / 62% {-32%}
Among Conservatives
- Mike Huckabee 60% / 19% {+41%}
- Sarah Palin 63% / 28% {+35%}
- Newt Gingrich 53% / 24% {+29%}
- Mitt Romney 47% / 24% {+23%}
Among Moderates
- Mike Huckabee 29% / 35% {-6%}
- Mitt Romney 28% / 36% {-8%}
- Newt Gingrich 16% / 54% {-38%}
- Sarah Palin 18% / 73% {-55%}
Among Men
- Mike Huckabee 44% / 34% {+10%}
- Mitt Romney 38% / 38% {0%}
- Newt Gingrich 40% / 43% {-3%}
- Sarah Palin 44% / 50% {-6%}
Among Women
- Mike Huckabee 37% / 27% {+10%}
- Mitt Romney 31% / 30% {+1%}
- Newt Gingrich 22% / 44% {-22%}
- Sarah Palin 30% / 59% {-29%}
Do you approve or disapprove of President Barack Obama’s job performance?
- Approve 42%
- Disapprove 49%
Survey of 1,045 South Dakota voters was conducted January 28-30, 2011. The margin of error is +/- 3.0 percentage points. Party ID breakdown: 48% Republican; 38% Democrat; 14% Independent/Other. Political ideology: 44% Moderate; 43% Conservative; 13% Liberal.
-Data compilation and analysis courtesy of The Argo Journal.
February 1st, 2011 at 6:35 pm
I’m sorry but Palinistas cannot rationally explain how their woman can win the Presidency against Obama if she is losing a place like South Dakota. The last 3 times SD went Democrat were in 1964 (LBJ v. Goldwater) 1936 (FDR v. Landon) and 1932 (FDR v. Hoover). Not even with South Dakotan George McGovern won his home state in 1972.
1932, 1936, 1964. That kind of landslide defeat would be the GOP’s fate if we nominated Palin.
February 1st, 2011 at 6:43 pm
I will make no remarks on this one way or the other – my views are well known – but I will be very interested in seeing what happens to Huck’s numbers once he leaves his show and starts running. if he runs.
February 1st, 2011 at 6:47 pm
ppppolls tweet:
Tomorrow: California Senate, Arizona President, South Carolina President, South Dakota House
11 minutes ago via web
February 1st, 2011 at 6:48 pm
Just shows what a RINO you are, Jonathan.
Real Conservatives(c) support the Sarahcuda. (While thus channeling Tex I will conveniently ignore the fact that she runs 11-12 points behind Huck/Romney among conservatives).
February 1st, 2011 at 6:51 pm
Matthew,
Huck has been “running” for two years in every form of media that exists today.
Hence his great numbers on the rise.
February 1st, 2011 at 6:53 pm
Bob, what’s point in nominating someone who will clearly give us 4 more years Obama? It’s idiotic. Real smart conservatives run away from Palin (at least with the idea of nominating her) because we know she will be a disaster and embarrassment of a candidate.
Get over the cult of personality! Palin is a person, not a goddess!
February 1st, 2011 at 6:55 pm
And will Huck’s numbers drop after August when he announces? I wouldn’t bet on it.
They look pretty solid almost everywhere and within every group where it needs to be solid.
February 1st, 2011 at 6:57 pm
Bob:
It’s true. A real conservative would just ignore history, knowing full well that Sarah Palin is the next Ronald Reagan. Even when we nominate her and the Party goes down in flames, we all know that she’s still the most electable real Republican in the race. 270 electoral votes? Don’t need them, we have twitter. A majority of the American electorate? Who cares, they are all elitist, liberals, or RINO’s.
February 1st, 2011 at 7:00 pm
Fredrick:
Bob was being facetious. He’s certainly no Palinista.
February 1st, 2011 at 7:01 pm
Palin’s supporters will flow to Huck in more numbers than to any other candidate as the polling has shown.
Plus it’s only common sense that they would. Huck has put in a heck of a lot of work wooing grassroots conservatives 24/7 by way of radio, tv, and print.
February 1st, 2011 at 7:02 pm
10. (If she doesn’t run, that is.)
February 1st, 2011 at 7:02 pm
Why didn’t they do a ‘without Thune’ like they did for Demint in SC?
February 1st, 2011 at 7:04 pm
6.
Wow, I thought Bob went full-Sarahcuda on us for a second. A half a second.
February 1st, 2011 at 7:11 pm
Still looking for some new numbers from FL and OH, I’m guessing that they’d send one Mr. Twain into another kos kids induced delirium.
February 1st, 2011 at 7:12 pm
Among Conservatives
•Mike Huckabee 60% / 19% {+41%}
•Sarah Palin 63% / 28% {+35%}
Among Moderates
•Mike Huckabee 29% / 35% {-6%}
•Sarah Palin 18% / 73% {-55%}
Among Independents
•Mike Huckabee 35% / 38% {-3%}
•Sarah Palin 30% / 62% {-32%}
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Speechless.
February 1st, 2011 at 7:15 pm
McCain beat Obama in SD by 8.5 pts. That means that Palin underperforms McCain by 16.5 pts in the state. If she underperformed him in such a manner nationwide, we’re talking a Nixon/McGovern style blowout for Obama. The only states she would win, i.e., the states that went safely for McCain by more than 15 pts or so, would include ID, WY, UT, AK, OK, AR, LA, and AL. Too close to call would be WV, KY, TN, MS, NE, and KS.
But that’s okay, because anything’s better than having a McCain-Grahamnesty-Gay-Agenda-RINO heading the ticket! YEARGH!
February 1st, 2011 at 7:19 pm
Mac,
Not to give Huck’s somewhat obsessed opponents too much credit but I think I, too, might shoot the messenger if the numbers were reversed against my preferred candidate.
February 1st, 2011 at 7:22 pm
How does it go again? “Don’t compete. Just reload!” ???
February 1st, 2011 at 7:29 pm
#16, she wouldn’t even carry AK anymore. Looks like Thune or Daniels are it for GOPers who could maybe win, unless Ryan/Christie/Zombie Reagan get into the game.
February 1st, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Jonathan Says:
February 1st, 2011 at 6:35 pm
“I’m sorry but Palinistas cannot rationally explain how their woman can win the Presidency against Obama if she is losing a place like South Dakota”.
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Johnny,Johnny,
Thanks for informing us that GE is today
or is it tomorrow?
And it is conducted by Daily Kooks polls,
not by election.Right?
I never pay attention to polls until one
or two weeks before election.
What I always do is analyze politicos,
their characters,who they are and what they
represent based on past and present.
Numbers matter few days before election,
even then many times they are wrong.
February 1st, 2011 at 8:20 pm
People, we need to invade hillbuzz.org and tell the Palinistas there about her horrible numbers. They don’t see it, or just don’t know about it. There’s strength in numbers. Time for an invasion to wake up the Palin worshippers.
February 1st, 2011 at 8:27 pm
“But that’s okay, because anything’s better than having a McCain-Grahamnesty-Gay-Agenda-RINO heading the ticket! YEARGH!”
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All I can tell you is NO RINO this time.
After Reagan we had nothing but RINOs,
Boushies,Dole and McCain.
Obama has been President for two years only.
Clinton was President for eight and had
budget surplus when he left office.
We have over 14 trillions national debt.
Who did the most destruction?
RINOs!Bushies!
Refudiate if you can!
So,you can take it to the bank,
thanks to Sarah Palin,TEA Party and real
conservatives,
NO RINO THIS TIME!!!
February 1st, 2011 at 8:33 pm
Tex:
Serious question: do you consider Palin the only non-RINO in the race? Would you support, say, Ryan, Daniels, Thune, if they ran, for example?
February 1st, 2011 at 8:45 pm
Most of you on this site resent
the power Sarah Palin wields.
She can get the nomination,no
matter what the Libs and RINOs do,
and how much they scream their
hateful crap.
She can also split GOP and destroy it,
if it comes to that.
She warned it will happen if GOP
establishment doesn’t see the light.
So,have your cheap fun on this site,
on any conservative site you would be
laughed out.
February 1st, 2011 at 8:48 pm
Tex, do you even believe a third of what you write ?
February 1st, 2011 at 9:12 pm
Dave,
Ryan and DeMint are guys
I have nothing but great
respect.
They are honest,strong character,
they care and do what’s right
for the country,not what’s good
for their political career.
Correct me if I’m wrong,but to this
day not one member of Congress and
Senate ever endorsed,supported openly
and publicly push for Ryan’s “Roadmap”.
Sarah Palin did,because his plan is
excellent,the best there is.
She doesn’t care it’s not her blueprint.
I always liked Jim DeMint,he hellped
TEA Party a lot.
Plus he said:
“Sarah Palin did more for Republican
Party than anybody else since Ronald Reagan
I would like him just the same,if he said it
or not.
February 1st, 2011 at 9:26 pm
Dave,
I don’t know about Daniels,
but Thune has never worked
one honest day in his life.
He lived on public dime
forever,one way or another.
Thune and all establishment types,
if they lived in Soviet Union at any
time they would be “gray” apparatchiks,
living off people’s backs.
You think I’m too harsh on politicians
who milk the system all their lives?
Think what you will,it’s true.
February 1st, 2011 at 9:37 pm
Even though I know it exists, I am always surprised how delusional Sarah Palin supporters are.
I can tell you I would have absolutely no problem if this “group” decided to leave the GOP. They are giving the rest of us a bad name…It’s like none of them have a grasp on reality AT ALL.
February 1st, 2011 at 9:45 pm
“I can tell you I would have absolutely no problem if this “group” decided to leave the GOP.”
Fifty years or so ago, when I was shouting about throwing Rockefeller, et alii out of the party, my father said, “Politics is about addition, not subtraction.”
Throwing out the Palin crowd makes no more sense than Tex’s tiresome rants about RINOs.
February 1st, 2011 at 9:52 pm
#21…..Save your time….they are hopeless…
February 1st, 2011 at 10:34 pm
It’s Palin’s responsibility to channel whatever energy she can generate for the good of the Party, which will outlast her brief moment in the spotlight. That’s what the mature folks do.
February 1st, 2011 at 11:06 pm
Dec.29,2010
Jim DeMint:
“Sarah Palin Has ‘Done More For The Republican Party Than Anyone Since Ronald Reagan”.
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This great CONSERVATIVE American
must be delusional or just stupid?
Right?
February 1st, 2011 at 11:15 pm
Sarah wins Townhall straw poll
Sarah Palin – 22.27%
Mitt Romney – 14.48%
Ron Paul – 11.52%
Mike Huckabee – 10.76%
Newt Gingrich – 10.03%
Herman Cain – 7.14%
Chris Christie – 5.55%
Tim Pawlenty – 3.02%
Jim DeMint – 2.97%
Mitch Daniels – 2.90%
John Bolton – 2.57%
Undecided – 2.55%
John Thune – 1.55%
Haley Barbour – 1.03%
Rick Santorum – <1%
Gary Johnson – <1%
http://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=180028828699307&id=114013445328868#!/pages/The-Townhallcom-Presidential-Straw-Poll/114013445328868
February 1st, 2011 at 11:17 pm
Bob
“Throwing out the Palin crowd makes no more sense than Tex’s tiresome rants about RINOs”.
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Nobody can throw Sarah Palin
and millions and millions of
real conservatives anywhere.
But she can split GOP and put
knife in its corrupt heart,
if it comes to that.
Did you notice Bob that GOP
apparatchiks are going out of
their way not offend Sarah Palin?
Of course the cowards stab her
in the back anonymously.
February 1st, 2011 at 11:23 pm
ppp is way off this time. all republicans will win this state by 10 to 18 points.
February 1st, 2011 at 11:26 pm
ppp is way off this time. all republicans will win this state by 10 to 18 points.
2008 President
South Dakota
McCain: 53.2
Obama: 44.7
Margin: McCain +8.5
February 1st, 2011 at 11:30 pm
Christy,
That Townhall poll is absolutely worthless. All it means is that more Sarah Palin fans voted or cheated by figuring out how to vote more than once, than any other candidate. That poll has nothing to do with Sarah Palin and how she would fare as a candidate. That’s where the real voters are who only vote once. These polls from many different polling companies have all said the same thing….Sarah Palin does the worst against Pres. Obama of any of the four top tier candidates. How can all of you Palin supporters close your eyes to that? Don’t you care about beating Obama?
I haven’t said this before, but I want to remind the Palin supporters of what it was like in 2008 when Obama ran for office. There was information posted about his past pastor, Jeremiah Wright, and the church he was part of for 20 years. Obama just said, I didn’t hear him say those things, and the Obama followers believed him. He was worshiped by them like a pied piper who could give a good speech. No matter what anybody said, they ignored it, because he was for “Change”!
That’s exactly what you Palin supporters do…worship her no matter what she says or does. You also choose to not believe the information in front of your nose…she is not electable against Obama. You don’t mind losing to Obama so he has four more years to destroy America just so your IDOL gets to run against him. Don’t you see the similarity to the two stories…Obama and Palin? You worship her like the supporters of Obama worshiped him. We made that mistake once, now it’s time to get the best candidate to beat Obama, and it isn’t Sarah Palin!
February 1st, 2011 at 11:30 pm
“Margin: McCain +8.5″
that was when obama had higher approval.
2012 will have Palin by +10 over Obama in SD.
February 1st, 2011 at 11:32 pm
“That Townhall poll is absolutely worthless”
It’s only “worthless” because it’s not a Kos poll.
February 1st, 2011 at 11:38 pm
EASY FIX
Palin / Thune 2012
February 1st, 2011 at 11:45 pm
VFT
“Sarah Palin does the worst against Pres. Obama of any of the four top tier candidates”.
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Is it today or almost two years from
today on General Election day?
Is it according to liberal Daily Kooks
poll today,or is it according to Nostradamus,
or some genius with crystal ball?
You seam to be very smart,tell me,which is it?
February 1st, 2011 at 11:52 pm
Christy thanks for your post.
Sarahcuda rules with polls or
no polls.
I pay no attention to polls until
just before election,but Town Hall
poll is many times more reliable
than liberal Daily Kooks poll.
February 2nd, 2011 at 12:13 am
39, It’s worthless because it is not a scientific poll. Almost all internet polls are worthless because of that.
February 2nd, 2011 at 12:16 am
Vote For Truth, the squealing about the poll numbers reminds me of 2008, when a lot of the Republicans said that the polls which showed Obama ahead of McCain were stacked and not to pay attention to them. Lo and behold, McCain lost.
Palinistas live in their own fantasyland. Perhaps it is best to ignore their rantings and ravings, and hope reality wakes them up in time.
I highly doubt that though.
February 2nd, 2011 at 12:43 am
Oh wow! Palin supporters are posting internet polls now?
No one can be THAT desperate.
Internet polls are rigged since you can vote a hundred plus times if you want.
February 2nd, 2011 at 12:54 am
There is no way in hell Palin loses to Obama by 8 points in South Dakota. C’mon guys, I know you don’t like her but you are seriously looking like fools on this one. The comment section, on this post, is one of the most embarrassing on the entire rightosphere(no pun intended) Something is definitely afoul with this poll. How about a little intellectual honesty?! I expect this from the likes of Jonathon and Jerald but seriously Bob Hovic? Wow…
February 2nd, 2011 at 1:08 am
I thought the person responsible for all of the bannings at ROS was not a part of this site any longer? Isn’t that what we were told? Now, it seems you’re linking to his site instead of PPP…interesting.
February 2nd, 2011 at 1:22 am
There’s little or no point in showing Obama and Palin head-to-head because you can take it to the bank that she will be beaten badly in the primaries, early and often. Just not going to happen. This being said, there’s no way Obama beats even Palin in SD. I think some of these polls we’ve been seeing are jokes.
February 2nd, 2011 at 1:36 am
RACE42012 2012 NEWSWIRE:
“Virginia Senate Bill to Move Primary to March Passes”
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Hmmm…
Possible 2012 Republican Primary Calender:
Feb. 5th
Iowa Caucuses
(Feb. 7th
Texas…..has a bill introduced to move primary to first Tuesday in Feb. and in violation of party rules)
Feb. 14th
New Hamshire Primary
Feb. 18th
Nevada Caucuses
Late Feb
South Carolina Primary
March 6th
Virgina….. pending approval of VA HB 1667 and 1843
February 2nd, 2011 at 1:43 am
FRONTLOADING HQ:
Tuesday, February 1, 2011
“SB 1246, the Virginia Senate bill to move the commonwealth’s 2012 presidential primary from the second Tuesday in February to the first Tuesday in March, overwhelmingly passed the chamber today. Senator Vogel’s (R) bill made it through the Senate with only one dissenting vote (39Y, 1N). As FHQ pointed out this morning, this clears the way for consideration of the one bill that is now before the House of Delegates. HB 1667, which would have changed the date of the presidential primary as well as reduced the petition signature requirement was incorporated into HB 1843 (the same bill as SB 1246) by voice vote in the subcommittee of the House Privileges and Elections Committee. HB 1843 subsequently emerged from that subcommittee with a unanimous (6Y, 0N) recommendation for reporting to the full committee with amendments.
As Virginia’s state legislature is only in session until February 26, this bill, if it is going to be passed, is likely to move quickly.”
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I obviously love Virginia going early!
!
February 2nd, 2011 at 1:44 am
Now, c’mon Texas – y’all do the same thing. Go early!
Btw, Arizona’s bill to go early failed.
February 2nd, 2011 at 2:00 am
Christy #39: “It’s only “worthless” because it’s not a Kos poll.”
No, Christy, it’s worthless because it’s a straw poll.
It’s double worthless because it’s an online straw poll.
It’s triple worthless because it’s an online straw poll with no controls over multiple voting.
The only (very limited) value a straw poll might sometimes have is that when it’s conducted among a like-minded group (e.g., Value Voters), it can give a sense of how the activists within that group are leaning.
In that regard, if I were a Palin supporter, I would not be bragging much about this poll. It’s sponsored by Hot Air, which is a strongly pro-Palin site, and yet she got only 22%. That’s pretty poor — it’s like Huckabee getting less than a majority in a poll at Huck’s Army.
February 2nd, 2011 at 2:11 am
49. I should have typed *Feb. 6th Iowa Caucuses*
February 2nd, 2011 at 2:13 am
Hey Bob,
Don’t you think that any and all
polls this early are double and
triple worthless?
Yes,Hot Air and all CONSERVATIVE
sites are very pro-Palin.
Why do you think is that?
February 2nd, 2011 at 2:22 am
“Yes,Hot Air and all CONSERVATIVE
sites are very pro-Palin. Why do you think is that?”
I think it’s because you’re defining ‘conservative site’ as ‘a site that supports Palin’.
February 2nd, 2011 at 2:29 am
Hey Bob,
Except their official single sites
(Romney and Huckabee)I can’t find
any sites at all,let alone conservative
sites that are pro-Mitt,pro-Huckabee,
pro-Daniels,pro-Thune,pro-Barbour,
pro Newt Scozzafava,pro-anybody……
CONSERVATIVE pro-Palin sites are all over
the syber-space.
Why do you think is that?
It is rehthorical question,you won’t answer
because you don’t like the answer.
February 2nd, 2011 at 2:34 am
No Bob,
Conservative site is any site
that support conservative principals,
not because they support Sarah Palin.
You name one site that is pro-Palin
and is not conservative!
I don’t think you can find one.
February 2nd, 2011 at 2:46 am
Bob
“it’s like Huckabee getting less than a majority in a poll at Huck’s Army”.
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No Bob,wrong again.
Equivalent to “huck’s Army” would
be C4P,and there is no comparison
between the two on any level,none
whatsoever.
HotAir has nothing to do with Sarah
Palin,but it’s Sarah’s stronghold,
because conservatives love her.
February 2nd, 2011 at 3:33 am
Everyone laughed at Heath when I said months ago that Palin would win about 5 states.
Now that is looking optimistic!
ps Romney basically confirmed on Piers that he is running
.
February 2nd, 2011 at 8:53 am
#58–I bet you’re gary/unseen/or one of those other palin trolls on hotair who has destroyed that forum.
—And this PPP Poll is probably correct because it has fair numbers for Huck and Romney.
February 2nd, 2011 at 10:07 am
60 – No way it is right…do you really think Palin would lose SD by 8 points? Honestly?
February 2nd, 2011 at 11:00 am
Jersey–PPP leans left, but they’re somewhat honest. They even had Rossi up in their final poll in WA, as they did Reid and showed a tied race in CO. They have Ben Nelson losing by a lot in NE. The case is that Obama will be very hard to take out. He almost won MT; he lost it by just three points. Dave has written a number of posts on how though the election will be. None of the current front runners are any good, not even Romney. There are a couple of people who are maybe electable and give us a shot (Thune, Daniels); Palin doesn’t. If she gets the nomination, she might just cost us the House.
February 2nd, 2011 at 11:01 am
sorry–they had Angle up in NV….
February 2nd, 2011 at 11:29 am
Their accuracy in the past has zero bearing on any poll thereafter. Sure one could assume that they should be accurate but that doesn’t mean that they are. They even have her only beating Obama by 1 in Texas…equally ridiculous. My guess is that they are sampling their voters from heavier Democrat districts. In Texas they could be heavy in the Austin area. You may be right and Sarah Palin may have no chance but to honestly say this poll is an accurate assessment of how Palin will do today or even 22 months from now is ridiculous. She would beat Obama by easily 10 points in South Dakota today.
February 2nd, 2011 at 12:32 pm
I hear you; we’ll need other pollsters to weigh in. SUSA and Rasmussen should start polling during the second part of the year.