There’ve been a flurry of Public Policy Presidential polling as well as the latest CNN poll. What does it all mean?
The PPP state polls have been all over in the place in regards to the 2012 Presidential campaign with wild shifts occurring without explanation.
There are two possible reason for this. First, Public Policy Polling may just have some lousy sampling method. I could buy that as being part of the problem, but the consistent inconsitency of the polls makes me doubt that as the full answer. The second solution is that most 2 years before the election, most normal voters haven’t focused enough on a potential Presidential primary race to make an actual decision as to who to support. I think there are probably quite a few people who win pressed by a pollster for a Presidential choice, may give different answers at different times. A reminder of how different the average voter is from the average political junkie.
What about the CNN poll? CNN didn’t measure who voters would prefer but who the party members would be likely to support. It’s worth noting that CNN ran an almost identical poll two years ago. The difference in results is remarkable:
| Candidate | 2008% | 2010% | Difference |
| Huckabee | 65% | 67% | +2% |
| Romney | 61% | 59% | -2% |
| Gingrich | 52% | 54% | +2% |
| Palin | 67% | 49% | -18% |
Huckabee, Romney, and Gingrich all saw their numbers move, but the movement was within the margin of error. Sarah Palin has had a precipitous and dramatic fall in the number of Republicans who’ll commit to supporting her if she’s the party nominee. This poll is another sign that Palin would be ill-advised to run for President. I’m more than happy to entertain the idea that a single poll is biased. However, poll after poll shows the same thing, it begins to look a lot like evidence.
Palin has huge unfavorables in nearly every recent poll. While we can argue all day about what caused the damage. It has been done and it’s not going to be reversed easily and certainly not in time for Palin to win in 2012.
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December 28th, 2010 at 9:36 pm
Bingo!
December 28th, 2010 at 9:56 pm
The question will be, who does Palin listen to for advise on an upcoming presidential run?
Does she listen to say, Bill Kristol, who was one of the first to toot her horn, but who has recently said she did not go back to Alaska and bone up on policy? Or does she listen to say, C4P, who just designed a new website especially for a presidential run?
December 28th, 2010 at 9:59 pm
Adam may very well be right that Palin is hopeless as far as turning her numbers around are concerned, but I agree that Bill Kristol is not her friend. She should run as more of a Ron Paul type, especially since that’s what she seems to actually be.
December 28th, 2010 at 10:14 pm
Could she get Ron Paul to endorse her early on? And would that move her extremely poor favorables up or down further? Or she pretty much on her own now as a fringe national candidate? Like Paul.
December 28th, 2010 at 10:18 pm
At this point, Palin really can’t run for President . Like you’ve said Adam, her numbers are just atrocious, and an poor run for President would ruin what influence Palin has within the Party.
Dave, Kristol was a very early Palinista, but I think by acting more reality-star than would-be President, she alienated him.
December 28th, 2010 at 10:34 pm
Adam,
Your whole premise is faulty to begin with.
You are talking about national polls two
years before national election.
Ask Presidents Giuliani and Hillary how important
those polls are.
In the last month and a half PPP conducted
29 state polls.
Sarah Palin won 12 and came 2nd 9 times,
go at hucksarmy.com and check for yourself.
21 out of 29 polls.
If you’re not impressed by these numbers,
than IMO you are trying very hard not to
be impressed.
And these are polls that matter,state polls.
She beats Huckabee,Romney is distant third
and Newt is left in the dust.
Adam,first things FIRST! THE NOMINATION!
Once Sarah is our nominee than the stand for
nothing RINOS will have a choice:
Palin or Obama.
December 28th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Bill Kristol dismisses Sarah Palin in 2012, but encourages Chris Christie
December 28th, 2010 at 10:45 pm
Kristol is a Lib on most issues,
but because he’s a neocon,he pretends
to be conservative.
No,there are plenty of RINOS for him
to choose from.
He hoped that neocons would be able to
make Palin a neocon.Stupid idea.
Sarah is American patriot and nationalist,
but not a loony neocon like Kristol,Frump…..
December 28th, 2010 at 10:57 pm
#6:
Tex, I understand national polls this far out have a lot of limitations, but that doesn’t mean they can’t be suggestive and what the polls suggest is that Sarah Palin has a personal popularity crisis.
While you’re right with President Giuliani and President Hillary is kind of an apples to oranges situation. In the case of Giuliani and Hillary, their problem was the “X” factor. Most Republicans didn’t know a heck of a lot about Rudy Giuliani. They knew him as the Mayor from 9/11, but didn’t know his views on abortion, or the downsides of Rudy.
With Hillary, there was always a sense of Clinton fatigue, however Obama was simply not known and hadn’t been introduced. So, as voters learned more about Guiliani on the GOP side, he fell. And as voters got introduced to Obamamania, Hillary fell.
Palin’s problem is that she is a known factor that voters have opinions about.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
Adam
“Palin’s problem is that she is a known factor that voters have opinions about”.
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Yes,conservatives,true conservatives,admire and
love her.
They,and not finger in the wind moderates,will
decide who is our next nominee.
Why do you think Romney look better in national
polls than Sarah but is doing very poorly in state
polls,the only polls that matter before the nomination.
At the same time she’s beating Huck,killing Romney and
Newt is far,far behind.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:22 pm
“In the last month and a half PPP conducted
29 state polls.
Sarah Palin won 12 and came 2nd 9 times,
go at hucksarmy.com and check for yourself.
21 out of 29 polls.
And these are polls that matter,state polls.
She beats Huckabee,Romney is distant third
and Newt is left in the dust.” – TEX
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TEX,
In your crazy counting system that does not take into account MOE, I recounted twice and came up with..
Huck in 1st or 2nd in 19 of last 29 separate polls listed at HA. Same as you claim for Palin.
Plus FL & NC from yesterday are not included in the HA chart that you’re using, but is in the brand new one HERE: http://forum.hucksarmy.com/download/file.php?id=1393 to bring Huck to 20 of 31 (of either 1st & 2nd).
But back to Adam’s national polling topic where the “Wonderful Invincible Sarahcuda” gets slaughtered repeatedly in head to head versus President Obama. And that matters.
Also the fact that she loses to Huck in all three Iowa polls this year:
27 to 17
21 to 12
22 to 11
She cannot rebound from about a 10 point loss in Iowa, imo. Ask Romney.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:27 pm
I counted 20 of 29 for Palin and checked it twice so she wins!!!
December 28th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
Adam,
You think I’m making it up,if I tell you
that there is concerted efforts by many,
Libs,LSM,GOP establishment, an army of Bushie
hacks and lap-dogs etc. to slow down and stop
Sarah Palin from getting the nomination?
At the same time,Romney,Huck,Newt and all of
the rest are getting free ride.
Well,once the primaries start and all of them
get under scrutiny,then Adam I will come back
and ask you:”What do you think now?”
December 28th, 2010 at 11:32 pm
I think Huck will get the backing from the powers that be in the Republican Party to take Palin out decisively in Iowa ’08 should she choose to run with these dismal versus Obama numbers.
But I have no prove yet. Just a feeling. A good feeling.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:33 pm
I mean Iowa ’12.
December 28th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Craig,
“Huck in 1st or 2nd in 19 of last 29 separate polls listed at HA. Same as you claim for Palin”.
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Nope!Go back and count,it’s right there,
not at Con.4Palin,NO SIR,it’s at your beloved
hucksarmy.com:
In 29 polls,since 11/9
Sarahcuda won 12 times,and came 2nd 9 times!
21 times out of 29 polls!
December 28th, 2010 at 11:42 pm
Romney = 12 of last 29 PPP’s 1st or 2nd
Gingrich = 7 of last 29 PPP’s 1st or 2nd
December 28th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
Palin = 20 of last 29 PPP’s 1st or 2nd
Huck = 19 of last 29 PPP’s 1st or 2nd
Go back and count, TEX
December 28th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
No comment on Iowa’s THREE polls, TEX???
December 28th, 2010 at 11:48 pm
Or what will happen if Palin is still down by about 12-15 points or more to Obama come Summer?
Will you switch candidates then or wait till after Iowa’s caucus?
December 29th, 2010 at 12:00 am
“No comment on Iowa’s THREE polls, TEX???”
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No comment yet.I do have a question.
The only poll in Iowa that I know of was
on May 31,which is very long ago.Up to
those days Romney and Huck were very dominant.
When were those two polls?I really never seen
them.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:41 am
“Go back and count, TEX
”
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I did,I made mistake.
In 29 polls Palin had 12 wins and 10 2nd place,
not 9!
It is 22 times out of 29 polls !!!
The winner, # 1
1)N Carolina…….12/27
2)Wisconsin……..12/16
3)Ohio………….12/16
4)Minnesota……..12/10
5)Montana……….11/18
6)Ohio………….11/15
7)Washington…….11/15
8)Main………….11/11
9)Minnesota……..11/11
10)Texas…………11/11
11)W. Virginia……11/11
12)Wisconsin……..11/11
2nd place #2
1)Michigan……….12/10
2)Massachusetts…..12/6
3)Missouri……….12/6
4)N. Carolina…….11/30
5)Kentucky……….11/15
6)N. Carolina…….11/15
7)Florida………..11/11
8)Pennsylvania……11/9
9)Colorado……….11/9
10)California……..11/9
December 29th, 2010 at 1:57 am
Palin can’t win. I think at least that much we can all agree on. The interesting thing now is that her numbers are so bad that she’s very unlikely to even run. Which means say hello to a Huck run after all!
December 29th, 2010 at 1:59 am
Well all except Tex who seems to be another planet. No offence mate
.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:38 am
Tex, you PalinNut.; )
Here’s all the polls including the three you want in Iowa. Enjoy…
http://forum.hucksarmy.com/download/file.php?id=1393
(Click to enlarge)
December 29th, 2010 at 3:42 am
Tex, you PalinNut.;)
Here’s all the polls including the three you want in Iowa. Enjoy…
http://forum.hucksarmy.com/download/file.php?id=1393
(Click to enlarge)
December 29th, 2010 at 3:44 am
Oops, there was a four minute delay before my #25 post posted. Sorry for the double (#26).
December 29th, 2010 at 3:51 am
Tex,
So you agree it’s 22 to 20? And counting yesterday, 23 to 21?
Let’s keep a tally in 2011 and watch Huck catch up (those measly two behind) and pass Sarah easily by early 2011. Ok?
Meanwhile, we all agree that Palin is LAST and unelectable versus Obama for now.
You think that fact will completely change, I (and all who are sane) don’t.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:59 am
Or 20 for Huck, I meant to type which includes Huck’s 1st Florida yesterday. AND 22 for your gal, since you’re counting NC from yesterday.
Sarah 22
Huck 20
Are we up to date?
Let the PPP race (phase two) begin through 2011 to early 2012…
And then we’lll caucus in IOWA for the real thing!
!
December 29th, 2010 at 4:37 am
Looking more at the internals of Tuesday’s new CNN Survey…
TEA PARTY SUPPORTERS:
Likely Support/Unlikely Support
Huckabee 72/26
Romney 66/33
Palin 62/37
December 29th, 2010 at 5:20 am
Support Likely/Support Unlikely
MIKE HUCKABEE
Among Republicans } 69/32 ..+37!
Among Independents } 66/30 …+36!
Among Conservatives } 74/25 …+49!
Among Tea Partiers } 72/26 ….+46!
Among Moderates } 61/35 ….+26!
SARAH PALIN
Among Republicans } 60/40 ..+20
Among Independents } 38/62 ..-24!
Among Conservatives } 58/41 ..+17
Among Tea Partiers } 62/37 ….+25
Among Moderates } 29/72 ….-43!
- CNN/Opinion Research 2012 (12/28/10)
December 29th, 2010 at 7:43 am
“Or she pretty much on her own now as a fringe national candidate? Like Paul.” Craig, this time you have jumped the Dinosaurs and gone mad. In fact you make some of the old Romneyites sound sane. A finge candidate? Your guy might be slightly ahead right now, but frankly my candidate is within the margin of error with both M & M. She is no fringe candidate. In fact she is doing a lot better than your guy did the last time around.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:47 am
OJ, don’t eve waste your time with Craig, he would bad mouth his own mother if she were running against Huckabee. In fact, I’m beginning to think one of three things about The Craigs… which one could be true?
1. He is not a Republican at all and he just comes to this site to cause trouble amongst the grassroot supporters of the Republican candidates?
2. He is one of the site administrators trying to drum up discussion to get more hits on their flailing website?
3. He is Mike Huckabee?
December 29th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Haha Jersey, I do not actually think he is Mr. Huckabee himself, but your first two options sound reasonable. Lately, he (or she) has gone crazier than bed-bugs.
December 29th, 2010 at 10:50 am
Craig,
You stopped posting 19 state polls,cherry picked,
because I forced you to admit that Sarahcudas has
the best results in the last month and a half.
in 29 PPP polls Sarah Palin won 12 times and came
2nd 10 times.22 out of 29!Yahoooooooo!!!!!!
I didn’t let you get away with your deceitful crap!
December 29th, 2010 at 10:58 am
JR and OHIO Joe,
Craig is exuberant supporter of Huckasmuck,
nothing wrong with that.
What’s wrong and deceitful is garbage and
phony numbers he’s pushing on this site.
I really don’t care that much,I’m probably
the only one reading his (most of the time)
nonesense.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:23 am
I don’t like to see all the bickering going on among the GOP supporters. How can we expect to win the war if we fire so much ammunition against our own soldiers? It seems that no matter who wins a poll that supporters of a different candidate starts firing off negative ammo against the poll winner. Why can’t we point out the best qualities of each candidate instead of pointing out the worst qualities of the opposing candidates? Is it because there aren’t enough good qualities to point out?
I will point out something good I’ve seen in the recent polls. They show that Huckabee has overcome the “unelectable” and “regional candidate” labels that were put on him last time. He has won polls (or come within the MOE) in states in the midwest (including tying with Mitt in his “home” state of Michigan). He also beat Palin in her northwestern home state (although within MOE) and won a northeastern state (Pennsylvania) by 7 points over tied for 2nd place, Romney and Palin.
If all four of the top tier candidates get into the race – it will not be an easy race for any of them.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:30 am
Ian Lazaran:
Senator Jim DeMint from South Carolina tells Politico the following:
“I believe [Palin has] done more for the Republican Party than anyone since Ronald Reagan”.-Jim DeMint
True conservatives from both parties love
and admire The de facto conservative leader
of America Sarahcuda Palin.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:43 am
Good morning…
Do any of you believe that there is a relationship between media visibility and political polling results ? On a scale of 1 to 10, who has had the most media visibility in the last 3 months ? Given Huckabee’s esposure on Fox News , real and re -runs, Palins almost non- stop ” guesting ” on Fox, interviews, back packing, hunting fishing, et al and Gingrich’s ” eminence grise “, Cardinal Richelieu presence on FNS, should’nt any look for an uptick in favorability and a down tick in unfavorability ?
Huckabee has certainly benefited from his visibility as the kind of shlocky, uber – mediocre, bandmeister and part – time sage.
Gingrich has had a wash, not really up or down. Probably over the top of most voters
Palin is getting creamed by voters. Many GOP conservatives may love her, but she is becoming a political albatross to the GOP and the one sure 2012 loser Barack could face
On the other hand……
Romney has purposefully stayed under everybody’s radar. The fact that his polling has only modestly changed is testament to the savvy run -up to the full 2011 2012 campaign.
Remember, there is a difference between a poll in a state with 3-4 candidates and a poll in the same state with 10-12 candidates.
Finally, what do you all think of the pending conservative primary dilemma with Palin, Huckabee and Herman Cain all running at the same time ? How many ways does this vote get split in, say, Iowa ?
CraigS
December 29th, 2010 at 11:51 am
Herman Cain is going to be the Duncan Hunter of 2012.
December 29th, 2010 at 11:54 am
TEX Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 12:41 am
“Go back and count, TEX ”
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“I did,I made mistake.
2nd place #2
1)Michigan……….12/10?
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TEX, yes you did, my friend.
12/10 MICHIGAN = Sarah came in 3rd NOT 2nd
I’ve gotta keep an eye on you.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:03 pm
CraigS Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 11:43 am
“Finally, what do you all think of the pending conservative primary dilemma with Palin, Huckabee and Herman Cain all running at the same time ? How many ways does this vote get split in, say, Iowa ?”
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Craig S.,
Not a big conservative fan I see. So you’re countin’ on Cain, the pizza entrepreneur to clear the way for the moderate, Romney to even have a chance to win in Iowa?
Good luck with that.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:08 pm
Temperature in Hell today: <32 F
In other news Adam Graham writes something I agree with.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
I’m sorry if this is the wrong place to post this…but I have a question. I just stumbled onto something that I don’t quite understand. http://gov.state.ak.us/admin-orders/246.html
Was Palin trying to organize some type of state health care similar to Romney’s in Massachusetts?
December 29th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
“DUTIES OF THE COMMISSION
The commission’s duties are to:
serve as the state health planning and coordinating body;
consistent with state and federal laws, provide recommendations for and foster the development of a:
comprehensive statewide health care policy;
strategy for improving the health of Alaskans that includes
encouraging personal responsibility in prevention and healthy living for all residents of the state;
a reduction in health care costs for all residents of the state to be below the national average;
access in communities of the state to safe water and wastewater systems;
the development of a sustainable health care workforce in the state;
quality health care being accessible for all residents of the state; and
increasing the number of residents of the state who are covered by health care insurance; and
submit a report to the Governor and the Legislature on or before January 15, 2010 regarding the commission’s recommendations and activities.”
I do not see anything in this piece that promotes mandates. On the other hand, your guy does not have a problem with Mrs. Obama mandating us what to eat.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:22 pm
TEX Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 10:58 am
“JR and OHIO Joe,
Craig is exuberant supporter of Huckasmuck,
nothing wrong with that.”
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Tex,
Name one number, fact, or post that is garbage and I will gladly re-post it with a correction or further clearer proof.
I’ve saved every fact. I’ll wait for your reply….
(You’ve have said many times the past few days that Palin came in 2nd while I say it was 3rd in Michigan.)
Michigan 12/10 PPP poll
Once and for all…
Tied for 1st } Huck 22
Tied for 1st } Romney 22
3rd Place } Palin 18
4th Place } Newt 15
5th Place } Paul 10
6th Place } Undecided 7
Tex, perhaps you should take it up with Aron Goldman if you feel these Michigan numbers are “garbage” or incorrect. Or just simply admit you’re wrong, which you seem to have a problem doing lately. Why is that?
December 29th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
46.OHIO JOE Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
” On the other hand, your guy does not have a problem with Mrs. Obama mandating us what to eat. ”
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“Michelle Obama’s not trying to tell people what to eat or not trying to force the government’s desires on people,” Huckabee said. “She’s stating the obvious, that we do have an obesity problem in this country.”
According to an analysis from the CDC:
Childhood obesity has more than tripled in the past 30 years. The prevalence of obesity among children aged 6 to 11 years increased from 6.5% in 1980 to 19.6% in 2008. The prevalence of obesity among adolescents aged 12 to 19 years increased from 5.0% to 18.1%.
Uh-oh…
*********FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE No. 08-194*********
Governor Palin Announces Health Priorities
December 4, 2008, Anchorage, Alaska – Governor Sarah Palin today announced her goals to improve Alaska’s health and education through fiscal year 2010 budget requests, the formation of a health care commission, support for legislation and an informational campaign to help Alaskans take better care of their own health. ….. Governor Palin called for increased coverage of Alaska’s children under Denali KidCare, state funding to reverse childhood obesity and improve diagnosis of autism, and increased funding for Alaska’s Head Start preschool programs. ….
{{snip}}
Highlights of the Governor’s priorities in health and education:
* Fund Alaska’s obesity prevention and control program and work toward reversing the trend of childhood obesity.
http://www.hss.state.ak.us/press/2008/pr120408.htm
December 29th, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Craig,
You are grabbing straws any way you can.
Michigan…..12/10
#1 Romney and Huck with 22%
If you want me to put Huck at #2,fine,
than Sarah is #3 with 18% (MEO).
December 29th, 2010 at 12:36 pm
“December 4, 2008, Anchorage, Alaska – Governor Sarah Palin today announced her goals to improve Alaska’s health and education through fiscal year 2010 budget requests, the formation of a health care commission, support for legislation and an informational campaign to help Alaskans take better care of their own health. ….. ” BINGO, give them better information to take care of their OWN HEALTH, not mandate them how to eat. Enjoy your yogart. I am enjoying Christmas cookie.
December 29th, 2010 at 12:39 pm
Well said Tex, M & M are just sore that we can get 18% in a state like Michigan. We shall do even better with states with more delegates.
December 29th, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Craig,
Don’t even think to play games with me,
I’m the wrong guy.
I never said Michigan or any other state
poll is crap.
What I said,and you know it,you might be deceitful
but not stupid,is that all onslaught of
push polls:”Is Sarah Palin qualified to be
President?
It was so massively pushed that Joe Miller,
a man with no spine,a nobody that Sarah Palin
made Alaska Rep. nominee,this man with no
character refused to answer simple question.
Do you think she has gravitas?
Don’t you think she wants everybody to be fat?
Favorable here,non favorable there.
It’s all crap,pushed by Libs LSM,corrupt GOP
establishment,Bushes and their lap dogs,
Tokyo Roves,Perrinos etc,phony conservatives Peggy
Noonan,Krauthammer,etc……
Yes,they succeeded in depressing her numbers
against Obama,but it’s two years before election.
But they also put resolve of steel in her supporters,
and made sure that Palin will run.
December 29th, 2010 at 1:12 pm
“her supporters”,
==================================
I meant conservatives,the real conservatives
of both parties,not phonies,not dime a dozen
RINOS.
December 29th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Craig and Granny T,
Yeah,you heard it right.
Sarah Palin wants everybody to be fat.
So what if she loves outdoors,check “Sarah Palin’s Alaska”,
so what she’s teaching America how to stay slim and have great
life.So what if her life style and her Reaganuesqe conservativism
is testament how to fight Nanny state,government knows best,
“We can’t trust parents”-Michelle Obama,actual quote???
Luckily,we have alternative,Michelle and Huck.
Take a look at them,don’t you think THEY are qualified
to talk about obesity???
December 29th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
PUBLIC POLICY POLLING
To update & sum up the recent end of the year PPP polls:
(The newest numbers only for each of 23 states since 11/9/10)
Sunshine State …… Huckabee 23 Romney 21 Gingrich 18 Palin 13
West Virginia ……… Palin 25 *Huckabee 22 Gingrich 15 Romney 15
Pennsylvania …….. Huckabee 23 Palin 16 Romney 16 Gingrich 15
NHampshire …….. Romney 40 Huckabee 13 Gingrich/Palin 10
Washington …….. Palin 19 Romney 18 *Huckabee 17 Gingrich 15
Wisconsin ……… Palin 21 *Huckabee 18 Romney 17 Gingrich 13
Minnesota ……. Pawlenty 19 Palin 18 Huckabee 14 Rom/Ging 11
Kentucky …….. Huckabee 26 Palin 19 Gingrich 17 Romney 13
Michigan …….. Huckabee 22 Romney 22 Palin 18 Gingrich 15
Montana …….. Palin 23 *Huckabee 22 Gingrich 16 Romney 12
Missouri ……. Huckabee 27 Palin 25 Gingrich 15 Romney 14
Virginia …….. Huckabee 21 Gingrich 20 Palin 17 Romney 15
Alaska …….. Huckabee 17 Gingrich 16 Romney 16 Palin 15
Illinois …….. Huckabee 18 Gingrich 17 Palin 14 Romney 12
Maine ……. Palin 23 Romney 18 Huckabee 16 Gingrich 15
Texas …… Palin 22 *Huckabee 20 Gingrich 15 Romney 15
Ohio ……. Palin 21 *Huckabee 19 Gingrich 18 Romney 15
NC …….. Gingrich 22 Palin 22 *Huckabee 18 Romney 18
MA ……. Romney 47 Palin 12 Gingrich 11 Huckabee 10
NV …… Romney 34 Gingrich 21 Palin 16 Huckabee 11
CA ….. Romney 25 Palin 18 Huckabee 15 Gingrich 15
CO … Romney 22 Gingrich 17 Palin 17 Huckabee 14
CT … Romney 28 Huckabee 15 Gingrich 14 Palin 11
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>NOTE: Huck in 1st place or within *MOE of 1st place in 17 of 23 states – each state with their LATEST poll only counting!!!
>Sarahcuda 15 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st
>Romney 13 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st
>Newt 6 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st
December 29th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
“Refudiate” that, you PalinNuts!
December 29th, 2010 at 1:54 pm
Just kidding, 13 of 23 for Huck, the same as Mitt.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Refudiation/Repudiation will come at the ballot box, in the meantime, feel free to post all those PPP polls. Maybe you guys can find some RAS polls, but hey.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Oops, my man, Mitt is at 9.
Sorry, I counted way too fast.
>Sarahcuda 15 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st
>Huckabee 13 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st
>Romney 9 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st
>Newt 6 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st
December 29th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
I’ve invented a new word once… Redudiation when I mistyped a d instead of an f. Those things hasppen. No big deal, OJ.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:23 pm
I “redudiate” Palin down to 14 of 23 (in 1st or within MOE) after my latest recount. Huck remains at 13, mitt 9, Newt, 6.
Care to “refudiate” at http://forum.hucksarmy.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=22526
It’s like Florida Bush/Gore all over again around here! ( c ;
December 29th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
# Craig Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
“Refudiate” that, you PalinNuts!
===============================================
The only nuts on this site is you.
You never,ever stop your deceitful garbage.
Only two days ago Sarah Palin WON N. Carolina,
it’s right there under Florida at huckarmy.com
Why you didn’t put it in your phony,crappy chart?
Man,you have no shame!!!
YES,once again I REFUDIATED your phony,lying,
deceiving,charts!
You are not honest commentator,what do you hope
to achieve by being deceitful?
December 29th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Tex,
I never said that “Sarah Palin wants everybody to be fat.” Obesity has been linked to various health problems. So, I admire Palin, Huckabee, and Michelle Obama for admitting there is a problem with obesity and trying to do something about it.
Palin didn’t have to mention Michelle at all when making the smores. She made a comment that stirred up trouble…being divisive about something that while Governor she had already admitted needing to be worked.
Like it or not, the government (both state and federal levels) use our tax dollars for school lunches (and in some areas breakfast, too). Offering healthy foods instead of junk foods for those meals should make sense to everyone.
America is a country that includes Conservatives, Liberals, and Moderates. The GOP will not be able to help heal the country if all we do is knock down every idea the Democrats have instead of trying to work together with them when possible. Huckabee has said numerous times that we ought to find something we agree with and start working from there. Palin needs to learn that if she wants to improve her favorability instead of losing it – like the results of this poll show she has been doing.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
New PPP tally as we enter 2011….
>Huckabee 15 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st
>Sarah 14 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st
>Romney 9 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st
>Newt 6 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st
December 29th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
Tex,
You said, “Only two days ago Sarah Palin WON N. Carolina, it’s right there under Florida at huckarmy.com
Why you didn’t put it in your phony,crappy chart?”
Race42012 does not give us an option to edit our post. Here is a direct quote from Craig posted above with NC in bold so you can see he didn’t omit it. And by the way, since the MOE was 4.9% even though Newt and Sarah were tied for the win, Romney and Huckabee were within the MOE of that tie.
Sunshine State …… Huckabee 23 Romney 21 Gingrich 18 Palin 13
West Virginia ……… Palin 25 *Huckabee 22 Gingrich 15 Romney 15
Pennsylvania …….. Huckabee 23 Palin 16 Romney 16 Gingrich 15
NHampshire …….. Romney 40 Huckabee 13 Gingrich/Palin 10
Washington …….. Palin 19 Romney 18 *Huckabee 17 Gingrich 15
Wisconsin ……… Palin 21 *Huckabee 18 Romney 17 Gingrich 13
Minnesota ……. Pawlenty 19 Palin 18 Huckabee 14 Rom/Ging 11
Kentucky …….. Huckabee 26 Palin 19 Gingrich 17 Romney 13
Michigan …….. Huckabee 22 Romney 22 Palin 18 Gingrich 15
Montana …….. Palin 23 *Huckabee 22 Gingrich 16 Romney 12
Missouri ……. Huckabee 27 Palin 25 Gingrich 15 Romney 14
Virginia …….. Huckabee 21 Gingrich 20 Palin 17 Romney 15
Alaska …….. Huckabee 17 Gingrich 16 Romney 16 Palin 15
Illinois …….. Huckabee 18 Gingrich 17 Palin 14 Romney 12
Maine ……. Palin 23 Romney 18 Huckabee 16 Gingrich 15
Texas …… Palin 22 *Huckabee 20 Gingrich 15 Romney 15
Ohio ……. Palin 21 *Huckabee 19 Gingrich 18 Romney 15
NC …….. Gingrich 22 Palin 22 *Huckabee 18 Romney 18
MA ……. Romney 47 Palin 12 Gingrich 11 Huckabee 10
NV …… Romney 34 Gingrich 21 Palin 16 Huckabee 11
CA ….. Romney 25 Palin 18 Huckabee 15 Gingrich 15
CO … Romney 22 Gingrich 17 Palin 17 Huckabee 14
CT … Romney 28 Huckabee 15 Gingrich 14 Palin 11
December 29th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
“Palin needs to learn that if she wants to improve her favorability instead of losing it – like the results of this poll show she has been doing.” Mrs. Palin does not need to learn anything. She already knows how to promote capitalism without compromising with Mr. Obama.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
I just updated, Tex. Just for you
!
Craig Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 1:46 pm
PUBLIC POLICY POLLING
To update & sum up the recent end of the year PPP polls:
(The newest numbers only for each of 23 states since 11/9/10)
Sunshine State …… Huckabee 23 Romney 21 Gingrich 18 Palin 13
West Virginia ……… Palin 25 *Huckabee 22 Gingrich 15 Romney 15
Pennsylvania …….. Huckabee 23 Palin 16 Romney 16 Gingrich 15
NHampshire …….. Romney 40 Huckabee 13 Gingrich/Palin 10
Washington …….. Palin 19 Romney 18 *Huckabee 17 Gingrich 15
Wisconsin ……… Palin 21 *Huckabee 18 Romney 17 Gingrich 13
Minnesota ……. Pawlenty 19 Palin 18 Huckabee 14 Rom/Ging 11
Kentucky …….. Huckabee 26 Palin 19 Gingrich 17 Romney 13
Michigan …….. Huckabee 22 Romney 22 Palin 18 Gingrich 15
Montana …….. Palin 23 *Huckabee 22 Gingrich 16 Romney 12
Missouri ……. Huckabee 27 Palin 25 Gingrich 15 Romney 14
Virginia …….. Huckabee 21 Gingrich 20 Palin 17 Romney 15
Alaska …….. Huckabee 17 Gingrich 16 Romney 16 Palin 15
Illinois …….. Huckabee 18 Gingrich 17 Palin 14 Romney 12
Maine ……. Palin 23 Romney 18 Huckabee 16 Gingrich 15
Texas …… Palin 22 *Huckabee 20 Gingrich 15 Romney 15
Ohio ……. Palin 21 *Huckabee 19 Gingrich 18 Romney 15
NC …….. Gingrich 22 Palin 22 *Huckabee 18 Romney 18
MA ……. Romney 47 Palin 12 Gingrich 11 Huckabee 10
NV …… Romney 34 Gingrich 21 Palin 16 Huckabee 11
CA ….. Romney 25 Palin 18 Huckabee 15 Gingrich 15
CO … Romney 22 Gingrich 17 Palin 17 Huckabee 14
CT … Romney 28 Huckabee 15 Gingrich 14 Palin 11
*NOTE: Huck in 1st place or within *MOE of 1st place in:
FL, WV, PA, WA, WI, KT, MI, MT, MO, VA, AK, IL, TX, OH, NC
..There goes the story that Mike Huckabee is only a regional candidate
December 29th, 2010 at 2:42 pm
Now when 2011 begins with a plethora of new PPP state polls, I will simply ADD new states or UPDATE the existing ones from now on. It ain’t rocket science. It is what it is.
Don’t you love polls? I do.:)
December 29th, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Thanks, Granny T.
You beat me to it.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
Granny T,
It’s very simple.
Sarah Palin is true Reaganesqe conservative.
She wants government to get the hell off our backs.
“Government is not the solution.Government is the
problem”. – Ronald Reagan
Socialists Obamas,Huckabee and all the Libs and most
of the squishy RINOS believe in Nanny state “government
knows best”,they believe in “no labels”,
“reach across the isle”(appease the Libs)etc,etc…..
Sarah Palin is opposite of all of that.
This is why she’s admired and loved by conservatives
in both parties,this is why Sarah Palin is THE leader
of conservatives in America.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:48 pm
OHIO JOE Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 2:35 pm
“Palin needs to learn that if she wants to improve her favorability instead of losing it – like the results of this poll show she has been doing.” – Granny
“Palin does not need to learn anything.” – OJ
===
I think someone’s been spending too much time at C4P.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
Craig Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
I just updated, Tex. Just for you
===================================================
I don’t need it,I could care less.
I caught you in deceit again and exposed you.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:51 pm
OhioJoe,
“Mrs. Palin does not need to learn anything. She already knows how to promote capitalism without compromising with Mr. Obama.”
Are you sure she “does not need to learn anything” about improving her favorables? Did you see the PPP blog from yesterday? “For Palin there’s no place like home…in a bad way” http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/12/for-palin-theres-no-place-like-homein.html
Brief quote from the article:
Palin’s unpopularity in Alaska is an interesting sidebar but ultimately pretty irrelevant to a possible 2012 Presidential bid. What’s more relevant is that a majority of voters in every single state we have polled so far on the 2012 race has an unfavorable opinion of her.
As I said before, she needs to learn how to improve her favorables if she wants any chance at all to win. One of the main reasons Huckabee couldn’t get more people on board during the 2008 primaries is because they thought he was unelectable. Sarah has to do something so she doesn’t get that “unelectable” label that is so hard to overcome.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:52 pm
OhioJoe,
“Mrs. Palin does not need to learn anything. She already knows how to promote capitalism without compromising with Mr. Obama.”
Are you sure she “does not need to learn anything” about improving her favorables? Did you see the PPP blog from yesterday? “For Palin there’s no place like home…in a bad way” http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2010/12/for-palin-theres-no-place-like-homein.html
Brief quote from the article:
Palin’s unpopularity in Alaska is an interesting sidebar but ultimately pretty irrelevant to a possible 2012 Presidential bid. What’s more relevant is that a majority of voters in every single state we have polled so far on the 2012 race has an unfavorable opinion of her.
As I said before, she needs to learn how to improve her favorables if she wants any chance at all to win. One of the main reasons Huckabee couldn’t get more people on board during the 2008 primaries is because they thought he was unelectable. Sarah has to do something so she doesn’t get that “unelectable” label that is so hard to overcome.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
Sorry about the double post. I didn’t mean to do that.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:53 pm
70.TEX Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 2:45 pm
“Sarah Palin is THE leader
of conservatives in America.’
===
I strongly “refudiate” that. So does America. Period
Support Likely/Support Unlikely
MIKE HUCKABEE
Among Republicans } 69/32 ..+37!
Among Independents } 66/30 …+36!
Among Conservatives } 74/25 …+49!
Among Tea Partiers } 72/26 ….+46!
Among Moderates } 61/35 ….+26!
SARAH PALIN
Among Republicans } 60/40 ..+20
Among Independents } 38/62 ..-24!
Among Conservatives } 58/41 ..+17
Among Tea Partiers } 62/37 ….+25
Among Moderates } 29/72 ….-43!
- CNN/Opinion Research 2012 (12/28/10)
December 29th, 2010 at 2:57 pm
Granny T:
Very good post. One of Huckabee’s primary failings in 2008, I think, was the perception that he was the “Evangelical Candidate” and not much more than that. He fialed to expand his base and was thus marginalized. Palin appears to have a similar problem. She gets betweeen about an average of 13%-20% in every state, but not anything more than that. She has a Tea Party base, but little appeal outside of it.
December 29th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
Granny T,
It’s very touching when I see you,Craig
and the rest of her detractors on this site
being worried and concerned about Sarah,
for her own good of course.
Thanks,but no thanks.
In the last month and the half in state polls
Sarah Palin is trouncing Huck,killing Romney.
Newt is too far left in a dust.
Sarahcuda is doing great,thank you.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:00 pm
Tex,
Craig Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 2:36 pm
I just updated, Tex. Just for you
===================================================
I don’t need it,I could care less.
I caught you in deceit again and exposed you.
From what I saw the only “update” was to highlight it so you could see it easier. Is that really “deceit”?
December 29th, 2010 at 3:05 pm
Tex, my friend..
I put NC in as soon as the HA chart was updated. I noted at the bottom of my older chart, the other day, that the new NC showed a four way tie.
What’s wrong with that?
How do you like my new chart now, where I’ve listed each state ONCE since the latest 11/9/10 to the present? I show the PPP polling with everyone’s numbers including T-paw first in Minnesota. Matt and the other T-Paw fans should like that.
And was pleased to see that Huck remains either in 1st or within the margin of error of first the most times.
In 15 of the most recent 23 states, fwiw!
December 29th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Craig,
Tokyo Rove and most of RINOS call themselves
conservatives.
Since Bushes,the meaning of conservative was
hijacked and perverted.
Sarah Palin – Sarahcuda is de facto
THE leader of true conservatives in America.
I’m not talking about squishy,spineless RINOS.
Get it?!
December 29th, 2010 at 3:06 pm
Tex,
Just because I’m not a staunch Palin supporter does NOT mean I’m a “detractor”! Like I posted earlier, we need to quit firing ammo at our own soldiers! Don’t you realize that was exactly the problem we faced in ’08? How in the world do you expect to win anyone over to your side if you keep shooting us?
You keep bringing up being Reaganesqe as though it’s a good thing – yet continually break Reagan’s 11th commandment: “Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican.”
December 29th, 2010 at 3:10 pm
TEX Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 2:58 pm
“In the last month and the half in state polls
Sarah Palin is trouncing Huck’
===
What are you smoking, Tex?
New PPP state tally as we enter 2011… (taking the most current state poll only)
>Huckabee 15 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st
>Sarah 14 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st
>Romney 9 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st
>Newt 6 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st
Huck in 1st place or within *MOE of 1st place in:
FL, WV, PA, WA, WI, KT, MI, MT, MO, VA, AK, IL, TX, OH, NC
December 29th, 2010 at 3:36 pm
“Huck in 1st place or within *MOE of 1st place in 17 of 23 states”
“Refudiate” that, you PalinNuts!”
“Just kidding, 13 of 23 for Huck, the same as Mitt.”
“Oops, my man, Mitt is at 9.”
“I “redudiate” Palin down to 14 of 23″
Craig, might I suggest you leave the poll publishing to the professionals?
December 29th, 2010 at 3:38 pm
“I think someone’s been spending too much time at C4P.” Wrong again Craig, go to C4P and find ONE, yes only ONE comment from OHIO JOE. You on the other hand have apparently commented there along with a few of your new Romneyite friends.
December 29th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
“Craig, might I suggest you leave the poll publishing to the professionals?” Well that was a good one, funny how Craig and company only like to quote from one polling company. The other polls go to Banville. Right?
December 29th, 2010 at 3:40 pm
84.
No way, Jose
You’ve only seen the tip of the HUCKABOOM iceberg! : )
December 29th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
OHIO JOE Says:
December 29th, 2010 at 3:39 pm
“Craig and company only like to quote from one polling company.”
====
We quote from every sigle one: CNN, PPP, Rass, you name it?
If Aron or anyone here at Race42012 management or regular posters post it, I talk about it. Taking the good with the bad and not believing in conspiracies that everyone is simply trying to bring Palin and Romney down through the evil manipulation of poll numbers.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:01 pm
… sigle is not a new word like refudiate. Darn keyboard!!!
*single*
December 29th, 2010 at 4:15 pm
Craig,
Did you see that Brett updated his poll thread at Huck’s Army? When you scroll down you can see the polling results listed under the various states or in the order in which they were released in the regular chart at the top of the page. http://forum.hucksarmy.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=22526
December 29th, 2010 at 4:17 pm
“Taking the good with the bad and not believing in conspiracies that everyone is simply trying to bring Palin and Romney down through the evil manipulation of poll numbers.” That is not what I was talking about and you know it.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:18 pm
BTW, you seem to be having more keyboard trouble than Mrs. Palin and I combined. Interesting.
December 29th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
“Craig, might I suggest you leave the poll publishing to the professionals?”
I miss Mark’s post at ROS that kept track of all of the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th place data. He hasn’t kept up with it like he did when his guy was leading.
I’ve noticed from Brett’s post at Huck’s Army and the numerous comments here that there are a lot of states with ties when you figure in MOE. That tells me there is no clear frontrunner no matter what anyone seems to think.
December 29th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
National Review Online today:
In politics: Sarah Palin will announce her intention to run for president in 2012, then announce a week later that she was only kidding — that she just wanted to see what the op-ed page of the New York Times would say.”
December 29th, 2010 at 5:18 pm
91.
Thanks, Granny.
I love that sort of thing. You know, more bullets for our guns and more facts to help get the word out that Huck is our most electable in the primary and general although I do agree that it will be closer than we like at times.
We should be ready for a fun and exciting next two years……
December 29th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
OJ,
You making fun of my spelling errors?
December 29th, 2010 at 5:41 pm
94. Yeah, I hope that Mark Lowe starts posting more at Race and/or ROS in the future. His charts are great.
Plus it’s hard to keep track of the PACs otherwise.
December 29th, 2010 at 7:11 pm
It does seem like there is no clear front runner. Interesting that Rasmussen has been silent on 2012 for quite a while.
I wish it were June, and we knew exactly who was running and who decided not to. But for now, we will all have to wait patiently, and try not to engage in too many “fights.”
Although it does bring more hits to a site.
December 29th, 2010 at 8:50 pm
TC,
Perhaps more 100+ comment threads will help motivate Kavon, Aron, and Adam to post even more next year.
I agree that there is no real CLEAR frontrunner for the 2012 cycle besides Obama who clearly is in the driver’s seat, being the incumbent, and IF unemployment drops significantly in 2011/2012. And I’m rooting for just that, and for America to rise up with our new House majority in place these coming two years. Obama just needs to meet us halfway (like he did with extending the Bush tax cuts FOR ALL or too, will be toast.
Got ‘em ranked now, as we end 2010, at those most likely to be sworn into office in 2013 as:
1 Obama
!
!
2A Huck
2B Newt
2C Mitt
5 T-Paw
6 J.Bush
7 Perry
8 Christie
9 Daniels
10A Rudy G.
10B Sarahcuda
10C Paul or Johnson
11 Petraeus
12 Thune or any current US Senator (Sorry, future President Rubio ..it’s just too soon)
…
…
…
…
98 Trump
99 Bloomberg
100 Santorum
101 Barbour
150 Trump
250 Bolton
300 Cain
999998 Limbaugh
999999 Beck
1000000 Karger
December 29th, 2010 at 8:53 pm
#100 EDIT:
(like he did with extending the Bush tax cuts FOR ALL or Obama too, will be toast)
December 30th, 2010 at 1:59 am
100!
Did you hear COD is being investigated by the Feds! Sarah sure knows how to pick em!
December 30th, 2010 at 4:25 am
“Did you hear COD is being investigated by the Feds! Sarah sure knows how to pick em!” And who was the other candidate in the race?
December 30th, 2010 at 5:47 am
Mike Castle – who would have been Senator Castle!
December 30th, 2010 at 7:33 am
Even if he won, he would have voted with the Dems most of the time. No thanks to cap and tax.
December 30th, 2010 at 8:25 am
OJ-
really? all you can talk about is cap and tax? because that is really going to make it through the Boehner House in the next 2 years. He would have voted with us on the things that will actually matter over the next 6 years but I know you have a candidate to worship so of course COD is just the victim of some LameStream/RINO/Liberal/WH conspiracy involving the FBI and FEC.
December 30th, 2010 at 8:57 am
Ray Burn, Cap and tax was the clincher, he was to the end a liberal (not a moderate.) The fact that he lost was a valuable lesson to the party establishment. It is a chance for the Maine girl and Mr. Brown to pull up their sock. You can either from your comeupins and grow up or you can continue to cry and blame Miss O’Donnell for the lesson you still failed to learn. You like to talk about how important it is to beat Mr. Obama, but this is no way to beat him. If Republicans in the Blue state of Deleware were willing to vote for an imperfect candidate to get rid of Mr. Castle, you better think long and hard before you pull this stunt again. Hey, you decide if you want to roll the dice and divide the party to give us another 4 years of Mr. Obama. We await your answer.
And as for “so of course COD is just the victim of some LameStream/RINO/Liberal/WH conspiracy involving the FBI and FEC.” Those are your words, not mine.
December 30th, 2010 at 12:15 pm
CAL THOMAS: SARAH PALIN DESERVES AN APOLOGY
Stacy Drake
Cal Thomas wrote a piece at Townhall.com on the recent revelation by the New Times that new “health care” will include the “end-of-life” provisions after all. He writes:
“Sarah Palin deserves an apology. When she said that the new health-care law would lead to “death panels” deciding who gets life-saving treatment and who does not, she was roundly denounced and ridiculed.
Now we learn, courtesy of one of the ridiculers — The New York Times — that she was right.
Under a new policy not included in the law for fear the administration’s real end-of-life game would be exposed, a rule issued by the recess-appointed Dr. Donald M. Berwick, administrator of the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services,
calls for the government to pay doctors to advise patients on options for ending their lives. These could include directives to forgo aggressive treatment that could extend their lives”.
Sarahcuda told us so,like many other things.
December 30th, 2010 at 12:42 pm
OHIO JOE Says:
December 30th, 2010 at 8:57 am
” divide the party to give us another 4 years of Mr. Obama.”
===
The only ones talking about dividing the party are the nuts over at C4P and Malkin’s Hot Air (aptly named) who continuously shout that they’re never voting for Mike or Mitt if one of those two go on to earn OUR nomination.
“No Reagan Big Tent Party for them” is their motto as Sarah and her hardcore groupies attempt to bust up the party. Meanwhile President Obama sits back, relaxes, and amusingly observes Palin & her Palinites on their suicide mission to rid the Republicans of every one of the called “RINOs” (dumbest acronym on the planet) or who they judge not to be in lockstep with every one of Sarah’s precious little tweets.
December 30th, 2010 at 12:55 pm
As Palin’s favorables sink even further into the dumpster…
33% approval TODAY in her home state of Alaska.
‘Splain that! The folks who know her the best are on to her?
Compare that to Huckabee whose favorabilities are now somewhere in the 60′s (and higher) in Arkansas (where they know him best).
December 30th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
Craig,
I learned about Huckashmuck’s and your political
identity in the last two weeks,than all this time
since I visited this site.
You,Shmuckabee and the rest of RINOS don’t like to
be called RINOS,the only appropriate name.
Liberals are also running scared from the only name
you should and could call them,Liberals.
Why are you guys running away from your proper names?
December 30th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
#
Those are your words, not mine.
# TEX Says
CAL THOMAS: SARAH PALIN DESERVES AN APOLOGY
Stacy Drake
Cal Thomas wrote a piece at Townhall.com on the recent revelation by the New Times that new “health care” will include the “end-of-life” provisions after all. He writes:
“Sarah Palin deserves an apology. When she said that the new health-care law would lead to “death panels” deciding who gets life-saving treatment and who does not, she was roundly denounced and ridiculed.
Now we learn, courtesy of one of the ridiculers — The New York Times — that she was right.
================================================================================================
Chuckey Krouthammer,the “great” intellect,also the great
speech writer for liberal, left loony W. Mondale,when
Sarah Palin forced the White House to change Obamacare,
he told us that Sarah Palin should leave the room during
Health Care- Obamacare discussion.
Why Chuckey?
So White House Chicago thugs and RINOS can agree on Obamacare?
This is the same phony conservative who just few days ago
said that Republican Congress should not defund Obamacare.
No way mr Kraphummer!
Sarahcuda is leading the charge for the restoration of this
once great country.
December 30th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Craig,
You and your numbers,phony numbers,deceitful numbers,
numbers,numbers……and more phony numbers…….
Nobody is reading it,NOBODY!
YAWN………YAWN………YAWN….
December 30th, 2010 at 2:26 pm
You just read them ALL, TEX.
So tell me where they’re wrong?
[crickets noise]
December 30th, 2010 at 2:32 pm
“Sarahcuda is leading the charge for the restoration of this
once great country.” Tex
====
Nope. Let’s sum up the facts and not your fantasy.
Huckabee 45.4%
Obama 45.4%
Obama 51.5%
Palin 39.0%
http://polltracker.talkingpointsmemo.com/contests/us-pres-12/Huckabee-Obama
Huckabee …. 40.5% / 29.8% … +10.7%
Palin ………. 36.6% / 52.7% . -16.1%
http://polltracker.talkingpointsmemo.com/candidates/mike-huckabee
Support Likely/Support Unlikely
MIKE HUCKABEE
Among Republicans } 69/32 ..+37!
Among Independents } 66/30 …+36!
Among Conservatives } 74/25 …+49!
Among Tea Partiers } 72/26 ….+46!
Among Moderates } 61/35 ….+26!
SARAH PALIN
Among Republicans } 60/40 ..+20
Among Independents } 38/62 ..-24!
Among Conservatives } 58/41 ..+17
Among Tea Partiers } 62/37 ….+25
Among Moderates } 29/72 ….-43!
- CNN/Opinion Research 2012 (12/28/10)
New PPP tally as we enter 2011….
>Huckabee 15 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st
>Sarah 14 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st
>Romney 9 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st
>Newt 6 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st
December 30th, 2010 at 2:59 pm
Most of them.
If some of them are correct I wouldn’t know.
After have to force you again and again to
change your numbers,I stop reading.
It takes time and effort to check all the numbers
you post,and mostly what you post are numbers,
numbers and more numbers…
Numbers change,there is more than a long,long year,
eternity in politics,before primaries.
In order to expose your phony numbers,I did post
correct numbers.
Other than that,I never do it,it’s boooooring even
when Sarah wins.
December 30th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
HERE: http://forum.hucksarmy.com/download/file.php?id=1393
But back to Adam’s national polling topic where the “Wonderful Invincible Sarahcuda” gets slaughtered repeatedly in head to head versus President Obama. And that matters.
Also the fact that she loses to Huck in all three Iowa polls this year:
27 to 17
21 to 12
22 to 11
She cannot rebound from about a 10 point loss in Iowa, imo. Ask Romney.
December 30th, 2010 at 6:19 pm
Death Panels. Lol – thanks for reminding us all about the lie that was voted the biggest lie of 2009!
December 30th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
Heath,
This is the first and the very last time
I’m wasting my time addressing a liberal
troll on this site,which is supposed to be
conservative blog.
Stay at Daily Kooks or several other Libtard
sites,mingle with your own,you are repeating
their talking points.
But hey,among so many RINOS maybe you feel
right at home.
December 30th, 2010 at 8:01 pm
PolitiFact’s 2009 Lie of the Year: ‘Death Panels’
December 31st, 2010 at 2:50 am
Thanks Aron.
December 31st, 2010 at 5:28 am
119.
Tex,
You are way out of line regarding Heath and also for repeatedly calling everyone a RINO here at Race42012 who doesn’t bow down and kiss Palin’s feet like you and the other Kowtow4Palin.com folks do.
Are you trying to get banned from this site, too?
December 31st, 2010 at 7:10 am
To update & sum up the recent end of the year polls now with each MOE double checked at the sources…
NOTE: Huck is in 1st place or within *MOE of 1st place in 15 of 23 states = 65% of the time
>Romney 14 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st = 61% of the time
>Palin 14 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st = 61% of the time
>Newt 6 of 23 latest states polled – either in 1st or within the MOE of 1st = 26% of the time
http://forum.hucksarmy.com/viewforum.php?f=180
The first two states to be polled in 2011 will be Nevada for sure and it looks (so far) like Pennsylvania again!
December 31st, 2010 at 7:16 am
Minnesota …….. Pawlenty 24 Palin 17 Huck 15 Rom 13/Ging 11 …. [5.0 MOE]
Kentucky …….. Huckabee 26 Palin 19 Gingrich 17 Romney 13 ….. [5.5 MOE]
Michigan …….. Huckabee 22 Romney 22 Palin 18 Gingrich 15 ….. [4.9 MOE]
Montana …….. Palin 23 *Huckabee 22 Gingrich 16 Romney 12 … [4.2 MOE]
December 31st, 2010 at 7:19 am
Missouri ……. Huckabee 27 Palin 25 Gingrich 15 Romney 14 ….. [4.9 MOE]
Virginia …….. Huckabee 21 Gingrich 20 Palin 17 Romney 15 ….. [4.8 MOE]
Texas …… Palin 22 *Huckabee 20 Gingrich 15 Romney 15 …. [6.2 MOE]
Ohio ……. Palin 21 *Huckabee 19 Gingrich 18 Romney 15 ….. [4.9 MOE]
December 31st, 2010 at 7:23 am
NC …….. Gingrich 22 Palin 22 *Huckabee 18 Romney 18 …… [4.9 MOE]
MA ……. Romney 47 Palin 12 Gingrich 11 Huckabee 10 ……. [5.7 MOE]
NV …… Romney 34 Gingrich 21 Palin 16 Huckabee 11 …….. [5.9 MOE]
CA ….. Romney 25 Palin 18 Huckabee 15 Gingrich 15 …….. [3.3 MOE]
CO … Romney 22 Gingrich 17 Palin 17 Huckabee 14 ……… [5.3 MOE]
CT … Romney 28 Huckabee 15 Gingrich 14 Palin 11 ……… [7.3 MOE]
December 31st, 2010 at 7:26 am
Alaska …….. Huckabee 17 Gingrich 16 Romney 16 Palin 15 ….. [3.6 MOE]
Illinois …….. Huckabee 18 Gingrich 17 Palin 14 Romney 12 ….. [6.1 MOE]
Maine ……. Palin 23 Romney 18 Huckabee 16 Gingrich 15 …… [4.0 MOE]
December 31st, 2010 at 7:30 am
West Virginia ……… Palin 25 *Huckabee 22 Gingrich 15 Romney 15 …. [4.3 MOE]
Pennsylvania …….. Huckabee 23 Palin 16 Romney 16 Gingrich 15 ….. [5.8 MOE]
NHampshire …….. Romney 40 Huckabee 13 Gingrich/Palin 10 ………. [4.1 MOE]
December 31st, 2010 at 7:37 am
Florida … Huckabee 23 Romney 21 Gingrich 18 Palin 13 .. [4.9 MOE]
Washington …. Palin 19 Romney 18 *Huckabee 17 Gingrich 15 .. [3.7 MOE]
Wisconsin ….. Palin 21 *Huckabee 18 Romney 17 Gingrich 13 .. [4.9 MOE]