The withdrawal of a candidate few have heard of from a race few have given much thought to could be very significant for a number of presidential candidates.
Becky Skillman has withdrawn (for health reasons, she says) from the race to succeed Mitch Daniels as governor of Indiana. Ms. Skillman is currently the lieutenant governor and was considered a strong contender for the position, though probably an underdog if Mike Pence got in the race. Skillman’s withdrawal, combined with Evan Bayh saying he will not seek the Democratic nomination, means that Pence becomes pretty much a lock if he decides to run. Considering that he’d be an extreme longshot (to put it kindly) if he were to seek the presidency, it seems extremely likely that he’ll opt for taking the lowhanging fruit.
So how would that affect the race? Jim Geraghty discusses it here:
I usually agree with Geraghty, but here I think he’s gone 0-for-3. Huck might or might not run (I think he will), but I don’t think he’d stay out because of Palin’s sharp elbows.I’ve never seen any sign that Huckabee is shy about mixing it up (Rombots — that’s your cue).
Another development with major implications is Haley Barbour tripping over his tongue in regard to the Citizen’s Councils. My guess is that he likely took himself out of the race (if he was in anyway). Barbour was already, fairly or not, practically a Hollywood caricature of a 1950s southern pol – with this gaffe he made the MSM’s job almost too easy.
If Barbour’s out as well as Pence, who gains and loses?
Huckabee: The big winner. Pence would not have been a huge factor, but he would take more from Huckabee than anyone else – he won the straw poll at the Value Voters conference. I don’t think Pence would have made it far, but he might have drawn enough support in Iowa to trim Huckabee’s margin and cause a few raised eyebrows (“Having won last time, Huckabee was expected to take Iowa easily. Thus his narrow victory yesterday …”) And Barbour, if he ran, would have been a significant threat in South Carolina.
Daniels: While I don’t think Pence being out means that much to Daniels, Barbour is another matter. I’ve thought for quite a while that they would likely be a tag team – one would run, the other would be his chief campaign advisor/strategist, and probably the chief of staff in the White House. If Barbour’s out, then Daniels is more likely to be in.
Romney: If Barbour were in, he would get a lot of establishment money and support, so Romney might benefit a bit, but probably not that much if it just means Daniels runs instead.
Palin: Geraghty seems to think Pence would draw from the same pool as Palin. I don’t (see Huckabee), but Geraghty’s a smart guy, so maybe Palin is helped.
Pawlenty: Pence’s withdrawal means one less Midwesterner in the race, so Pawlenty (and Daniels) might benefit a bit. Barbour being out might also help Pawlenty, since some RGA support might go his way.
As an aside: One commenter on Geraghty’s article may win the prize for Most Delusional Comment of the Year (Palin Division): “Pence and Daniels combined would NOT have the intellect or experience that Sarah Palin has.”
Sarah Palin has many fine qualities, but I don’t think experience is her strong point – especially when comparing her to the combined resumes of a five-term congressman, member of the House leadership, two-term governor, president of a major company, director of OMB …
And intellect … let’s not even go there.
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:50 am
Bob
“And intellect … let’s not even go there”.
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I respect your opinions,so I have one single question
for you:
Pick any politician that you consider “mr intellect”
powerhouse and imagine that he endured half of the
relentless,24/7,the most vicious and vile onslaught
of attacks on his person,every little detail in his
past,every little misstep,campaign of attacks on newborn
with Down Syndrome,attacks from all sides:Liberals,MSM,
GOP establishment,elitists in Washington circles,
phony conservatives(Obama supporters)Brooks,Noonan,
Parker etc,Bushes clan and their hacks,Rove etc,etc,etc….
I need honest answer,how would that “mr intellect” endure and
politically survive,just stay sane,let alone prosper?
How would he look after all of that?
Destroyed,damaged badly,no damage somehow?
He would be still “mr intellect” in people’s mind?
And who is that guy or lady that would somehow avoid
serious if not fatal damage in public perception?
Before I go let me say this:I am nobody,but give me any name,
after brief research I will be able to shred ‘em to pieces,
rip them apart,attack,ridicule,mock their personality,their
character,their past,their present,everything they’ve ever done,
project their future in the bleakest and grimmest light
and back up my claims,not make them up.
And I will do that in my far less than perfect English.
I’m saying this because I know I can do it,because everybody
has weaknesses,low points,mistakes,flows etc,etc. I would go after
those like there is no tomorrow and I will inflict damages no
matter who the person is.
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:20 am
You need to amend your post because at the moment it reads like Geraghty HIMSELF said that “Pence and Daniels combined would NOT have the intellect or experience that Sarah Palin has” which obviously he didn’t.
Cheers
The H-Bomb
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:42 am
Currently both of them are only polling at about 2%. On the other hand, a few % could be meaningful in a close race and Mr. Pence especially could gain traction. The fact that Mr. Barbour is out might help Mr. Huckabee a bit due to geography, but in terms of per cent, it is marginal. If Mr. Pence is out, it would indirectly help Mr. Pawlenty and Mrs. Palin. Mr. Pawlenty would have less of a challenge hanging on to his position as leader of the second tier. While it is true, that Palinites are extremely loyal, part of that loyalty is due to the fact that there is no alternative to Mrs. Palin. Mr. Gingrich, Mr. Romney and Mr. Huckabee are for various reason and to various degrees, unacceptable to a large portion of the Palin camp. Mr. Pence would be acceptable to most Palinites. So with him out of the picture, there is one less back up option for Palinites. Which indirectly helps Mr. Pawlenty in the event Mrs. Palin does not run. However, it is looking more and more likely that she will.
December 23rd, 2010 at 8:33 am
The more we anticipate the 2012, the stronger our field appears. This may be our strongest Primary stable since 68. We have a lot of thoroughbreds and victory in 2012 looks all but certain – I just hope that we can expedite the primary contest and swiftly nominate our candidate.
December 23rd, 2010 at 8:34 am
OJ, to quote you…BINGO! A lot of Palin detractors like to paint Palin supporters as blind followers, when the ruth is we’re looking for qualities that Palin has and has demonstrated over the course of her career. Pence has those qualities, DeMint has those qualities…even Pawlenty has a few of those qualities. Anything less is unacceptable. As of now, other than a Giuliani run, those are the only three I COULD, or better yet, MIGHT support in a primary if Palin doesn’t run. Hopefully she will and her strategy will work. Only time will tell and I have too many Christmas presents to buy to lay down too much conjecture at this point.
December 23rd, 2010 at 8:40 am
Pruce, I agree to a point but one thing to consider is that the longer our primary is, the longer the MSM will have to wait to destroy our candidate, the longer a good portion of the media coverage will be centered on our candidates. I almost wish, for monetary reasons, that the candidates would agree on a modest budget for the primaries…so they can save that much more money for the general. Also we could use our, supposed, fiscal conservatism as a campaign tool against the wasteful spending by the Democrats and more specifically…the Obama machine.
December 23rd, 2010 at 8:44 am
Think about it, in campaign commercials, Republicans could put up the amount, the Obama Campaign and the Democrat Party spent on a ticker machine…like they do with telethons…except instead of raising money for a good cause…they’re wasting money on a campaign to buy and trick the hearts and minds of the average, American voter.
December 23rd, 2010 at 8:49 am
How does everyone feel about candidates accepting Federal election money this time around? I personally think that it is a non starter and that candidates will have to forgo public financing both for philosophical and strategic purposes.
December 23rd, 2010 at 8:59 am
Pruce, for that to work…the candidates would have to get a legal, binding contract from the President that he also will use the Federal election money…we now know that is a fat chance. Philosophically speaking, they probably shouldn’t add to the debt by using the people’s money…but…it would be great if there was a cap so there was an even footing for all campaigns.
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:03 am
I oppose the use of public financing and the issue may be somewhat of a litmus test for me this time around. I also oppose federally mandated caps on campaign spending or donations.
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:19 am
Pence really wants to run. If he thinks he has a shot, he’ll go for it. If he doesn’t, Thune will probably be the consensus nominee. DC will unite around him rather than Pawlenty or Daniels, and he is a great campaigner, eg beating Daschle and helping Noem.
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:24 am
Bob,
Nice write up. I agree with all three of your bullet points, especially the first two. I can’t imagine a Superstar like Palin or a governor of the same state sitting around waiting to see if a Congressman jumps in. Both are higher on the food chain than Pence.
On the helps/hurts front, I think it helps Huck on the SoCon front (less competition), Palin on the Tea Party/purist front (again less competition). Pence out would hurt Romney a little (competing wings are less fractured), but Barbour out helps a little (his wing is also less cluttered), so the balance of the two decisions, if true, is probably a wash for Romney.
Though Pence would likely have gathered little actual support, being a Congressman, his absence will affect the overall tone of the race. He is a purist, with fairly pure credentials, and is very, VERY articulate. So I think he would have had the effect of nudging the field towards a more ideological, purist direction, as competitors wouldn’t want to be outdone by Pence on that front.
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:31 am
Pruce, I see what you’re saying but at what point are people being persuaded because the election was essentially bought. The rumor is that Obama will raise a billion dollars for his reelection. IMO, the closest Republicans that could raise that kind of money, shy of using their own, is Palin and maybe Romney but he’d probably use some of his own as well…which is fine. BUT the point is can either one raise close to a billion dollars? If they cannot then they might not be able to win.
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:15 am
Anybody but Mitt Romney!!!!I wish he would drop out!!!!
Nobody mentions Hermon Cain I think he would be a excellant canadate he might come out as the biggest winner of all!!! Sarah Palin/Hermon Cain or Hermon Cain/Sarah Palin sounds good to me!!! A true winning ticket!!!
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:17 am
Yes, Mr. Cain would be another good one.
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:39 am
Hermon Cain would be a very formidable candidate and a game changer. With Chairman Steele as Party leader and Hermon Cain as our nominee, the GOP would be seen as the true party of diversity. A Cain/Rubio ticket would be very exciting and transformative.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:08 am
Cain/Rubio? I wonder how many independent voters would ask, “who?”. Oh, that’s right–we don’t care what independent voters think.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:28 am
For the record, I certainly do not think that we should have a Cain/Rubio ticket for the sake of race, but with respect, Independent voters did not stop Mr. Rubio from being elected.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:36 am
Huckabee: The big winner. Pence would not have been a huge factor, but he would take more from Huckabee than anyone else – he won the straw poll at the Value Voters conference. I don’t think Pence would have made it far, but he might have drawn enough support in Iowa to trim Huckabee’s margin and cause a few raised eyebrows (“Having won last time, Huckabee was expected to take Iowa easily. Thus his narrow victory yesterday …”) And Barbour, if he ran, would have been a significant threat in South Carolina.
-Bob Hovic
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Great post, Bob
Actually, I agree with what you said about every candidate you named.
Keep up the good work at Race42012 and RightOsphere.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:37 am
Pruce-
You may be the biggest Affirmative Action proponent on this site. By the way- in case you’re wondering that isn’t a compliment. We’re not the Democrats, we don’t run on race (just religion).
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:37 am
If we could only find a candidate named Abel.
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:40 am
Ray,
Do I detect a slight Religion Card play there again by you? Hiding it in parentheses, while clever, won’t work either.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:01 pm
“We’re not the Democrats, we don’t run on race (just religion).” Yeah, like the guy in Utah who won’t vote for a Pentacostal woman or the guy who won’t vote for a man who supposedly is against Dinosaurs.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:06 pm
The religion comment was meant more as an ongoing joke than an indictment against any particular candidate but if you feel guilty on behalf of any specific candidate then that is your business
Merry Christmas
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:11 pm
If we would just bring in a Catholic monarchy (the Habsburgs are tanned, rested, and ready), we wouldn’t have to worry about anyone voting on religion.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:20 pm
Matt,
Would the Habsburgs receive 96% of the Blacktonian or 95% of the Utahnian vote?
Or would they, too, feel that identity politics is a little weird?
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Interesting that the first comment goes straight to playing the Poor Sarah card. She has qualities other than that, but her devotees just love to play it.
Heath: You’re right — I’ll clarify that.
Matt: You’re probably right that anything that helps Palin and Huckabee (Pence being out means less competition for their respective bases) hurts Romney. I don’t think Barbour being out helps him, though, because I’m using the assumption that Barbour out = Daniels in. So probably, on net, a bit of a negative for Romney.
“Nobody mentions Hermon Cain” — There’s probably a reason.
Craig: Interesting how your assessment of my posts’ quality depends on how I treat Huckabee.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:23 pm
Do I have to be Catholic to live under a Catholic Monarchy? Can I still own and run my business even though I’m Protestant Evangelical?
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:24 pm
I’ll delete any further comments on religion.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Bob-
I think Craig is the only person who relates the quality of your work to how you treat his chosen candidate. Everyone else on here is completely unbiased in their opinions.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Craig,
As the rightful lords of a polyglot empire, the Habsburgs eschew identity politics.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Ray,
“Do I have to be Catholic to live under a Catholic Monarchy?”
No. We care for all of God’s creation. You just need to give up any birth control you may have.
“Can I still own and run my business even though I’m Protestant Evangelical?”
By the unmerited grace of God and his servents here on Earth, yes.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:31 pm
27.
Bob,
It helps a whole lot when you speak the truth plus your opinion of it, and not fictional reports by Palin supporters of, ooooh for instance, Huck’s new long term (proven nonexistent by one simple phone call to Huck’s people) deal at Fox News.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:33 pm
Bob,
“I’ll delete any further comments on religion.”
Of course you mean only those that do not explicitly affirm Christ’s Holy Church.
And I would let Ray’s innocent questions stand. He’s understandably concerned what role heretics might play under the new regime.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Ray Brun Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Bob-
“I think Craig is the only person who relates the quality of your work to how you treat his chosen candidate. Everyone else on here is completely unbiased in their opinions.”
-Ray Brun
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LOL! I didn’t even know you even had a sense of humor all this time but that comment proves you do! Well done, Ray.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Matt,
Does that mean I can’t have that surgery my wife and I have been planning?
Craig,
I think Huckabee started the rumor of his contract. He is starting to do too well in the polls and doesn’t want to become the frontrunner and have the media and others start attacking him before he announces. He needs to keep his favorables up as long as possible.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 pm
OJ,
No dinosaur comments allowed either or we shall awaken the Max.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 pm
I’m actually laughing out loud and my daughter had to come over and see what was so funny. She’s only 3 so talk of heretics, the Habsburgs, birth control, and me having a sense of humor means nothing to her.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:36 pm
Ray,
“Does that mean I can’t have that surgery my wife and I have been planning?”
You may find the answers to such specific questions here.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:38 pm
Matt,
LOL.
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Come to think of it, my praise for Hovic’s column may hurt him with the Danielites tribe.
It’s kinda like Weiner saying he would like to endorse Mike’s campaign for the nomination on ‘Huckabee’ last Sat.
Huck said, “that’ll kill it!’
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:48 pm
Remember, Daniels is my 6th choice! And that ain’t bad.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:30 pm
I won’t vote for Daniels either he is Anti- Christain Bigot!!!!
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:33 pm
I do not think Mr. Daniels is a bigot, he just had some foot in mouth.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:51 pm
“As the rightful lords of a polyglot empire, the Habsburgs eschew identity politics.”
Equal-opportunity imperialism. One’s background is irrelevant–they will rule you just the same.
December 23rd, 2010 at 1:53 pm
In addition to having an amazingly strong and deep stable, we also have a quite diverse field (for Pres and VP) – even more so than the potential Democrat primary field (Hillary, Bayh, Dean).
Appeal to catholics: Newt Gingrich, Jeb Bush, Paul Ryan, Tim Pawlenty (former catholic)
Hispanics: Marco Rubio (rising star and sure to top most VP lists)
Indian Americans: Bobby Jindal and Niki Haley
Mormons: Mitt Romney
Itallian Americans: Rudy Giuliani, Ken Cuccinelli
African Americans: Hermon Cain, J.C. Watts, Michael Steele, Alan West
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:29 pm
Pruce,
But do we have a candidate for the transgender Lithuanians?
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:30 pm
hamaca,
“Equal-opportunity imperialism. ”
Exactly right. What matters is not one’s ethnicity, but one’s class……
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:36 pm
“But do we have a candidate for the transgender Lithuanians?” No but we might find and Left handed Latvian and a Right handed Estonian.
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:39 pm
Where does that leave us Lutherans?
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:49 pm
Bob Hovic Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 12:23 pm
“Interesting that the first comment goes straight to playing the Poor Sarah card. She has qualities other than that, but her devotees just love to play it”.
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No,Sarah is not poor,that was my point.
In very short time with so many forces
against her, she became very rich,
financially and politically.
Nobody can repeat her success under
similar conditions.
Your mr intellect Daniels would probably
run to Sturgis S.D. and stay there,permanently.
December 23rd, 2010 at 2:57 pm
“In very short time with so many forces
against her” – Tex
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You mean the 60% of Americans who say they will NEVER ever vote for her.
Or the 65% of Independents who say the will NEVER ever vote for her.
Or could it be the whopping 75% of moderate Americans who say they will NEVER ever vote for her?
Look, we know you love Sarah Palin and no one on this entire planet is close to her wonderfulness… BUT Obama would win in a slam dunk over her. Period.
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:04 pm
Awesome Prucey’s back!
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:09 pm
“You mean the 60% of Americans who say they will NEVER ever vote for her.” Yeah years out, like Mr. Rubio would never win Florida, like Dr. Paul would never win KY and like Mr. Toomey would never win PA. Sorry, but that dog doesn’t bark with me. BTW, I thought Mr. Obama was not even suppose to beat Mrs. Clinton. But go ahead just take comfort in the fact that 65% of Independent and 75% of Moderate agree with you until the wind changes direction.
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:23 pm
OJ,
So why do Huckabee and Romney, both well known, run so much better with ALL groups than Palin versus Obama and in many cases defeat him overall.
While Palin who is even MORE well known with 24/7 nonstop coverage of her(and honestly who in this country does not now know where she stands on the issues including those regarding the First Lady’s pet project) BUT is double digits behind and falling.
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Obama 51.5
Palin 39.5
http://polltracker.talkingpointsmemo.com/contests/us-pres-12/Obama-Palin
And the excuse that all the polling companies are conspiring against Palin because they want to keep her from running is complete nonsense.
By the way, Obama is licking his chops in anticipation of Palin being his opponent in 2012. And we all know why.
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:36 pm
Gee, I don’t know Craig, with they way things are portrayed in the drive by, it is a wonder the 80% of Americans say they won’t vote her. As for M & M, they might do a bit better, but in most cases, they still don’t quite beat Mr. Obama. Anyway, beating Mr. Obama is of little use if the guy who beats him fails to promote Conservatism.
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:38 pm
“And the excuse that all the polling companies are conspiring against Palin because they want to keep her from running is complete nonsense.” Hey, I am not saying the current polls are wrong, I am just saying not to count on them to stay the way they are, but hey, you can dream.
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Craig,
First,THE NOMINATION!!!
Get it?!
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:58 pm
As for M & M, they might do a bit better..
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LOL! A bit better?
December 23rd, 2010 at 4:01 pm
Why would we EVER nominate someone that far behind when we have other much MUCH stronger candidates who hang in strongly versus Obama?
Obama leaves Palin in the dust. Wake up, Palinbots!
December 23rd, 2010 at 4:02 pm
“but hey, you can dream.”
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And that’s exactly what you’re doing.
December 23rd, 2010 at 4:06 pm
“Anyway, beating Mr. Obama is of little use if the guy who beats him fails to promote Conservatism.”
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You are aware that Huckabee polls at the top among both Republicans and Conservatives.
Or do you just let that also slide to poor early polling? Although he polled very well with Conservatives in ’08 as well.
December 23rd, 2010 at 4:11 pm
TEX Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 3:50 pm
Craig,
First,THE NOMINATION!!!
Get it?!
===
There will not be a nomination for your gal when the other candidates play up the fact she can’t beat Obama.
The voters are not going to nominate the candidate who does the WORSE against Obama. Republican voters may be a lot of things but they’re not stupid.
December 23rd, 2010 at 4:18 pm
Republicans want a fighting chance…
LATEST POLL TRACKING:
Huckabee 45.4%
Obama 45.4%
Obama 44.8%
Romney 44.5%
Obama 49.0%
Gingrich 44.8%
Obama 51.5%
Palin 39.0%
http://polltracker.talkingpointsmemo.com/contests/us-pres-12/Huckabee-Obama
One of those names will NOT give us that fighting chance. Guess which one?
December 23rd, 2010 at 4:22 pm
MUST LISTEN:
Medved is doing a best of show today. His hour long interview of Huckabee is on now for those interrested.
http://www.michaelmedved.com/
Click on listen live.
Rombots will need to listen.
December 23rd, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Many of the arguments being made about Governor Palin vis a vis electability I remember people making about Reagan in the late 70s. In fact Carter famously opened up a bottle of champaign the night Reagan was nominated. “Electability” candidacies never pan out as planned (see Dole, Kerry, McCain).
December 23rd, 2010 at 5:30 pm
It’s the sad, slow realization of not only the non-electability of Sarah Palin but also the harsh fact the American folks just don’t like her after seeing and hearing her every day for two full years. Period.
December 23rd, 2010 at 5:31 pm
Merry Christmas, All! ; )
POLLTRACKER.COM FAVORABILTY ..as of 12/23/10
Huckabee …. 40.5% / 29.8% .. +10.7%
Obama …….. 49.2% / 44.3% … +4.9%
Romney ….. 35.3% / 30.4% .. +4.9%
Palin ………. 36.6% / 52.7% . -16.1%
http://polltracker.talkingpointsmemo.com/candidates/mike-huckabee
POLLSTER.COM FAVORABILITY ..as of 12/23/10
Huckabee .. 39.1% / 28.3% …. +10.8%
Obama ……. 49.7% / 45.2% …. +4.5%
Romney…… 34.0% / 31.0% … +3.0%
Palin ………. 37.4% / 52.3% .. -14.9%
http://www.pollster.com/polls/us/fav-huckabee.php
December 23rd, 2010 at 5:33 pm
And a Happy Happy New Year! ; )
LATEST POLL TRACKING:
Huckabee 45.4%
Obama 45.4%
Obama 44.8%
Romney 44.5%
Obama 49.0%
Gingrich 44.8%
Obama 51.5%
Palin 39.0%
http://polltracker.talkingpointsmemo.com/contests/us-pres-12/Huckabee-Obama
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:20 pm
“Republicans want a fighting chance…” And some Republicans want a Conservative. Something that is Mr. Huckabee is not lately. I guess it takes all kinds of Conservatives, but this Conservative does not believe in cutting deals with Mr. Obama. So that that regard, he is 0 for 2.
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:54 pm
Conservatives that poll Huck on top consistently disagree with you, Joe.
Perhaps they do not share your definition of Conservative.
The Tax Cut deal that Obama signed had four Republicans vote no. What’s that, 10% of the Republican Senators.
The rest all liked the deal. The numbers are with Huck!
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:55 pm
And that’s Palin’ss problem. THE NUMBERS!
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:56 pm
And that’s Palin’s problem. THE NUMBERS!
December 23rd, 2010 at 7:35 pm
CNN/Opinion Research Survey on Tax Cut Deal
December 23rd, 2010 at 8:51 pm
The last 27 PPP state results:
SARAHCUDA PALIN
11 states # 1
9 states # 2
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Huckabee
8 states # 1
11states # 2
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Romney
8 states # 1
4 states # 2
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Newt
1 state # 1
6 states # 2
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Information provided by Huck Army Forum,
compliments of Craig.
Nice guy,but vary confused and distraught
Huckaloon.
December 23rd, 2010 at 8:55 pm
# Craig Says:
December 23rd, 2010 at 6:56 pm
And that’s Palin’s problem. THE NUMBERS!
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Craig,
Read NUMBERS above!
I know it’s painful for you,but you got
to get used to it,so you don’t go nuts.
December 23rd, 2010 at 9:55 pm
I Agree with Tex!!! The media & polling firm are trying to pick our nomonee!!! I say vote the canadate that fits you conviction then support the winner in the General election. Who know if these polls are not rigged? I still feel the left is terrorfied of Sarah Palin not so with Mitt or the Huckster!!!
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:02 pm
Yeah, Jerry, they are scared to death of the one who they cream in every state…you’re right…just keep telling yourself and your echo chamber that.
December 23rd, 2010 at 10:35 pm
Craig
“Republican voters may be a lot of things but they’re not stupid”.
=======================================================================
Conservative Republicans are very smart and
true American patriots.
80% of them admire and love Sarahcuda Palin.
The rest of the 20% are actually RINOS trying
to pass themselves as conservatives.
Liberal and “moderate” republicans are people
without any convictions,lingering in the middle
of nowhere,linguini spines,ready to jump the
ship for any tiny change of wind.
They are not smart,there are different names
for them.
Being a nice and shy guy as I am,I will let
somebody else call them stupid.
You see,I learned from Huck how to get my point
across.
Huck :”Media people,here’s an attack ad against
Romney,but being a nice guy that I am,I will not
let it run on TV,but here,you can have the copies.”
Genius!
December 23rd, 2010 at 11:55 pm
Lol the same post at ROS got 1 reply! That site will be gone soon and we will be no 1 again!
December 24th, 2010 at 12:26 am
Jews looking at potential 2012 Republican candidates?
or pro-Israel activists and supporters, the 2012 vote cannot possibly come too soon. Two years of Obama’s stumbling and bumbling approach to the Middle East, and his heavy-handed treatment of the Jewish state, have disabused many American Jews of any illusions they may have had about his administration. With baited breath, they await the arrival of someone – anyone! – who will replace the inept incompetent-in-chief in the White House.
WITH THAT in mind, it is essential that American Jews begin to examine the prospective field of Republican candidates now, and take the measure of those who might very well inherit the mantle of the presidency. They need to be prepared to get behind a candidate early and stick with him, if only to ensure that the current administration remains a one-term, passing phenomenon.
Naturally, a lot of names are being tossed around, from former vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin to former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney. For the most part, they all have strong pro-Israel credentials, and many have consistently said the right things that will appeal to the Jewish vote.
But I believe there is one potential candidate who stands out above all the rest, both as an advocate for Israel and a friend of the Jewish people, and that is Mike Huckabee, the former governor of Arkansas and 2008 presidential contender.
http://www.jpost.com/Opinion/Columnists/Article.aspx?id=200609
December 24th, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Good find, Granny T.
July 6th, 2011 at 4:46 am
Super ifonmratvie writing; keep it up.