Reconciliation “Won’t Work”
President Obama’s bipartisan health care summit has still left lingering questions over cost. Bob Schieffer spoke with Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), Rep. Marsh Blackburn (R-Tenn.) and Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.)
McCain doubles down on his big fib: claims no one told him TARP was for the financial sector or the banks.
It’s been pretty much shark hopscotch for McCain going back to late 2007. But I wonder whether this could push him over the edge, even get him in trouble in what should be a pretty easy reelection.
How can J.D. Hayworth not take advantage of this opening?
But others worry that McCain is making missteps in his bid against Hayworth. Some question his choice of campaign staff, while others pointed to early radio ads against Hayworth that were poorly made. “I can’t figure out if he’s no just taking J.D. Hayworth seriously,” said one GOP strategist not affiliated with either campaign. “The mistakes that he’s making are really kind of amateur hour.”
She has a tremendous following. She’s an inspiration to a lot of people in this country, and I have always said she is emblematic of what America means to working women; that she can have everything — a family of five, dual working household in Alaska, and become governor. She will continue to play a role in debate of issues, and I welcome that.
5. It was mere weeks ago that you were harangueing Romney for not attending, maintaining that it was suicide for any prospective conservative candidate to miss this event. Now, you give Huck the most shameless pass, almost casting him in heroic light for giving Sarah the spotlight. Shameless hypocrisy. Monumental dishonesty.
#11 Actually AZ, it appears that Sarah (race blogger, not Palin) may be conceding that Huck isn’t looking at a run at this time if he won’t confirm his appearance at the SRLC (the equivalent to Romney not appearing at CPAC). Of course, this could be nothing considering that we still have more than a month before the SRLC starts.
My point was more about how clearly she was able to read the tea leaves of Romney’s impending doom for not attending, but that Huck’s not attending has no meaning at all, if not positive.
Personally, I think these things are not necessarily the harbinger of anything.
#7 The source is irrelevant. Counter the argument.
I’ll remember that one the next time someone yanks from a leftie blog to hit Palin. You are right, of course
Certainly none of us expected that it’d be abused the way it was, so as to enrich the financial sector above its original intention to prevent a cascade of bank and financial institution failures from the toxic mortgages. McCain gets right at the heart of the issue – the financial sector has been taken care of quickly and with more than enough gusto. The economy as a whole, however, continues to languish as the Democrats play their majority-politics with it, as hyper-divided parties and districting that borders on the creation of a fiefdom means most of them don’t even have to give a darn.
TARP was necessary if misused. John McCain did not want the economy to tank, and neither did anyone else. Without it, investor confidence in the economy would have gone out the door, and each and every one of us would be paying the price right there next to the Wall Street guys. Half of our party would have stood by while Rome burned, playing politics with a financial collapse. I’d have just stood by and watched as the mob carried them to be collectively hung in that case.
So of course DailyKos and the like love the extreme candidates – they know that they make easy fodder and are polarizing to their own party, and make their own wackos all the more passable.
JD Hayworth would have been with them but for the fact that the voters already axed him for his crimes four years ago.
The Hayworth groupies seem to want to repeat all the mistakes of Bush conservatism, for which Hayworth was a great poster boy. Hayworth’s legacy is one of arrogance and failure just like Obama and Pelosi’s goons.
McCain now firmly in the anti Bernake/Obama TARP bill. If he would have led the opposition to TARP in 08, McCain would have won in a landslide.
The only landslides would have been those of major economic indicators, Pruce.
I was being a little facetious. By the way, I do support McCain completely in this race with Hayworth but McCain seems to be doing all he can to make this an embarrasing ten-point race.
Waht you just stated doesn’t address the point made by Josh Marshall and probably by JD Hayworth later on. The point that Marshall and Hayworth are making is not about the substance behind TARP but rather whether McCain is misleading the Arizona GOP electorate by now claiming that he was misled. The claim that he was misled seems to be damaging to McCain on two-fronts: 1) that he was misled doesn’t seem very credible 2) assuming that it was true that he was misled, that’d be a strike against his leadership abilities.
So McCain is better off arguing, as you did, for the substance of TARP rather than claiming that he was misled because arguing the latter opens up doors for Hayworth as Marshall has pointed out.
That I absolutely agree on, he’d be better off making a clear case for it and distinguishing between what he supported in it (economic stability – normal Americans have billions put into these banks) versus what outcomes he didn’t (making the institutions fat off of investor cash).
He got at it albeit not directly as he says he supported it for one reason, certainly not the other, and the administration was definitely not talking about the latter. No one was even much thinking about the latter. But I hope he’ll clear that up in the future – he doesn’t have to look like he’s absolving financial institutions and Congress from blame by supporting the intentions of TARP after all, if he makes the distinction.
TARP was sold as exclusively to buy and isolate the toxic dept, instead it became a fund for buying up bank stocks, taking over auto companies, and the like. TPM is typically dishonest that is why you cite it, and Hayworth is really making it impossible for any sane person to support him.
17. You can’t bring yourself to be honest, can you? We’ve all seen the polls. Romney is doing fine in with conservatives and better than fine with everyone else. He’s doing unexpectedly fine with tea-partiers.
It’s all moot though. Neither are running. So, the conservative base will be split ONE way.
February 28th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Reconciliation “Won’t Work”
President Obama’s bipartisan health care summit has still left lingering questions over cost. Bob Schieffer spoke with Rep. Steny Hoyer (D-Md.), Sen. Kent Conrad (D-N.D.), Rep. Marsh Blackburn (R-Tenn.) and Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.)
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February 28th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
Getting Sad
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2010/02/getting_sad_1.php?ref=fpblg
February 28th, 2010 at 3:29 pm
So much for “straight talk” McCain.
But this also provides cover for Palin, who can similarly claim she was misled.
February 28th, 2010 at 3:32 pm
McCain Camp Plans End Run Around AZ GOP
http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/02/mccain_camp_pla.php
February 28th, 2010 at 4:27 pm
Huckabee is now allowing Palin all of the spotlight at this year’s http://www.srlc2010.com/.
I believe Mike will attend in 2011 if he’s running.
Go Sarah …we’re all behind you!
February 28th, 2010 at 4:36 pm
McCain doubles down on his big fib: claims no one told him TARP was for the financial sector or the banks.
Wh-wh-wh-what did John say? Uh oh…
February 28th, 2010 at 6:15 pm
When you find yourself in league with TPM, you realize that your push for Hayworth is backed by the worst of the Left wing.
The Left craves McCain’s defeat, and are backing Hayworth. TPM proves it.
February 28th, 2010 at 6:21 pm
Will that successy thing work?
Will success spoil Sarah Palin?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/opinion/ct-perspec-0228-sarah-20100228,0,3121593,full.story
February 28th, 2010 at 6:54 pm
House Minority Whip Eric Cantor:
Differing views on health care, the economy
http://www2.starexponent.com/cse/news/local/article/differing_views_on_health_care_the_economy/53019/
February 28th, 2010 at 6:56 pm
#7 The source is irrelevant. Counter the argument.
February 28th, 2010 at 7:18 pm
5. It was mere weeks ago that you were harangueing Romney for not attending, maintaining that it was suicide for any prospective conservative candidate to miss this event. Now, you give Huck the most shameless pass, almost casting him in heroic light for giving Sarah the spotlight. Shameless hypocrisy. Monumental dishonesty.
February 28th, 2010 at 7:26 pm
#11 Actually AZ, it appears that Sarah (race blogger, not Palin) may be conceding that Huck isn’t looking at a run at this time if he won’t confirm his appearance at the SRLC (the equivalent to Romney not appearing at CPAC). Of course, this could be nothing considering that we still have more than a month before the SRLC starts.
February 28th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
McCain now firmly in the anti Bernake/Obama TARP bill. If he would have led the opposition to TARP in 08, McCain would have won in a landslide.
February 28th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
13 should read: McCain now firmly in the anti- Bernake/Obama TARP bill camp.
February 28th, 2010 at 7:43 pm
Go Sarah!!!!!!!!!!
February 28th, 2010 at 7:45 pm
My point was more about how clearly she was able to read the tea leaves of Romney’s impending doom for not attending, but that Huck’s not attending has no meaning at all, if not positive.
Personally, I think these things are not necessarily the harbinger of anything.
February 28th, 2010 at 7:49 pm
11.
Sorry Azz Hurting, I guess Mike was not wanting to split the conservative votes with Sarah at this time… maybe ever.
Uh oh for Rom-bots like you. Enjoy trying to get your guy elected with only the moderate wing of the Republican party on board. LOL LOL LOL
February 28th, 2010 at 7:53 pm
I’ll remember that one the next time someone yanks from a leftie blog to hit Palin. You are right, of course
Certainly none of us expected that it’d be abused the way it was, so as to enrich the financial sector above its original intention to prevent a cascade of bank and financial institution failures from the toxic mortgages. McCain gets right at the heart of the issue – the financial sector has been taken care of quickly and with more than enough gusto. The economy as a whole, however, continues to languish as the Democrats play their majority-politics with it, as hyper-divided parties and districting that borders on the creation of a fiefdom means most of them don’t even have to give a darn.
TARP was necessary if misused. John McCain did not want the economy to tank, and neither did anyone else. Without it, investor confidence in the economy would have gone out the door, and each and every one of us would be paying the price right there next to the Wall Street guys. Half of our party would have stood by while Rome burned, playing politics with a financial collapse. I’d have just stood by and watched as the mob carried them to be collectively hung in that case.
So of course DailyKos and the like love the extreme candidates – they know that they make easy fodder and are polarizing to their own party, and make their own wackos all the more passable.
JD Hayworth would have been with them but for the fact that the voters already axed him for his crimes four years ago.
The Hayworth groupies seem to want to repeat all the mistakes of Bush conservatism, for which Hayworth was a great poster boy. Hayworth’s legacy is one of arrogance and failure just like Obama and Pelosi’s goons.
The only landslides would have been those of major economic indicators, Pruce.
February 28th, 2010 at 8:00 pm
And remember, Pro-TARP is a winning position to the American voter!!! Pleeeease use it in 2012!!! Every day!!!
February 28th, 2010 at 8:02 pm
MPC,
I was being a little facetious. By the way, I do support McCain completely in this race with Hayworth but McCain seems to be doing all he can to make this an embarrasing ten-point race.
Waht you just stated doesn’t address the point made by Josh Marshall and probably by JD Hayworth later on. The point that Marshall and Hayworth are making is not about the substance behind TARP but rather whether McCain is misleading the Arizona GOP electorate by now claiming that he was misled. The claim that he was misled seems to be damaging to McCain on two-fronts: 1) that he was misled doesn’t seem very credible 2) assuming that it was true that he was misled, that’d be a strike against his leadership abilities.
So McCain is better off arguing, as you did, for the substance of TARP rather than claiming that he was misled because arguing the latter opens up doors for Hayworth as Marshall has pointed out.
February 28th, 2010 at 8:10 pm
That I absolutely agree on, he’d be better off making a clear case for it and distinguishing between what he supported in it (economic stability – normal Americans have billions put into these banks) versus what outcomes he didn’t (making the institutions fat off of investor cash).
He got at it albeit not directly as he says he supported it for one reason, certainly not the other, and the administration was definitely not talking about the latter. No one was even much thinking about the latter. But I hope he’ll clear that up in the future – he doesn’t have to look like he’s absolving financial institutions and Congress from blame by supporting the intentions of TARP after all, if he makes the distinction.
February 28th, 2010 at 8:15 pm
12. Tommy Boy,
Mike said on FOX -this past Friday- that he will not attend THIS year but will be in NYC for his weekend show instead.
So go Sarah!!! It’s all her’s at the conference and she’ll be spectacular as usual.
February 28th, 2010 at 8:25 pm
#22 So it’s official that he won’t attend?
February 28th, 2010 at 8:33 pm
Yes, Tom.
Sarah will shine at SRLC 2010. (Mike is quite aware of that and will support her over Romney if she runs.)
Why should we split the conservative vote and hand the nomination to the moderate (Romney) is Huck’s thinking, I believe.
Huckabee is very sharp.
February 28th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
It is official, Tommy Boy. (Mike told Sean on Hannity’s FOX show this past Friday evening.)
It’s Sarah Palin FTW!
February 28th, 2010 at 8:45 pm
#22
But “this year” is the only year where it’ll be held. It’s held every four years if I’m not mistkaen and not a yearly event.
February 28th, 2010 at 10:21 pm
Yep, he meant CPAC next year if he runs. I think Sarah’s got this though.
February 28th, 2010 at 10:24 pm
…consolidating the conservative base will be easier for her now.
March 1st, 2010 at 12:14 am
TARP was sold as exclusively to buy and isolate the toxic dept, instead it became a fund for buying up bank stocks, taking over auto companies, and the like. TPM is typically dishonest that is why you cite it, and Hayworth is really making it impossible for any sane person to support him.
March 1st, 2010 at 9:31 am
17. You can’t bring yourself to be honest, can you? We’ve all seen the polls. Romney is doing fine in with conservatives and better than fine with everyone else. He’s doing unexpectedly fine with tea-partiers.
It’s all moot though. Neither are running. So, the conservative base will be split ONE way.