November 10, 2009

The Need for Marco

Alex has a good post on the Rubio/Crist race.  I think that number 2 is an illusion, but number 1 is a reasonable answer.  Still, I’d take even money that, by next August, Rubio is polling within 2-3 points of Crist in general election match-ups.  Crist does not have a “reasonably strong approval rating”.  His approval rating is, at best, unclear.  The latest poll, the St. Petersburg Times poll, pegs Crist at a 42% approval rating.  It’s hard to know exactly how accurate this pollster is, but they were in line with everyone else in their Florida primary polling (both D and R) so I have to assume they’re not wildly off.  Crist’s popularity isn’t cratering, by the way, because he’s a terrible Governor; he’s too savvy a politician to see his popularity drop just because he’s doing a terrible job.

No, Charlie Crist is suffering from A.) The anti-incumbent mood and B.)  The “this fella ought to be doing his job instead of campaigning” mood.  By next August these will have reached a crescendo and it’s increasingly hard to imagine Crist maintaining much above modestly high (+5 to +8) approval ratings through the election.  Rubio, on the other hand, doesn’t have to govern in this environment, he isn’t accountable for any of the tough choices, and he gets to define himself in opposition to someone who does and is.  If Crist wins the seat by 20 points, it’s because generic Republican is winning it by 15.

So that leaves us with number 1.   Is it worth electing Crist because he’s a moderate face in an increasingly ideological GOP?  Well, that depends on what that moderate face will look like by next November.  Will it be the one with the sunny smile and the unflappable tongue?  Or will it look a little haggard; a little less sure of its power?   And, of course, this leaves out the fact that the GOP needs more than moderate members if it wants to experience a revival; it needs diverse members.  What good is a big tent if everyone looks the same?

Perhaps I’m biased, but I’m more inclined to think I simply have an inside view.   And I’ll tell you, it is increasingly hard for minorities to line up behind the Republican colors.  My party affiliation is not something I advertise to most people in my acquaintance.  I am, to use a metaphor, an in the closet Republican.  Are there in the closet moderates?  I think not so many.  We cannot, simply cannot, continue as a party of old, white men.  It is untenable.  It will fail and before the next decade is out.

These facts may discomfit Republicans, but a party that has such a failed history of reaching out to minority voters needs to be discomfited.  It needs to be woken up with pots and pans, in the middle of its dreamy sleep.  If Rubio- a son of Cuban refugees- can just set an alarm we’ll have gotten somewhere.  This consideration would be enough, alone, to cancel out the “we need to promote Crist for ideological diversity” argument.  And, all else being equal, it’d be enough to push Rubio over the top.

But, all else isn’t equal.  Rubio is simply the better candidate.  He’s more conservative, though not perfectly conservative and thank God; his politics is more principled, though not rigid, a governer not a shouter; and he is, by some kind of wonder, more charismatic, more polished.  If these strengths don’t eliminate Crist from consideration they at least eliminate our need to worry about his fate.  When Crist loses, Florida will have lost nothing of consequence and both Florida and the nation will have gained a new public servant from a new generation of Americans- tested by the fire of this century’s conflicts, having escaped from the rubble of the last’s major ideology, and ready to help lead our country in a time of great travail.

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Matthew E. Miller can be contacted at Obilisk18@yahoo.com and at his Pawlentyesque blog

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38 Responses to “The Need for Marco”

  1. Mike Says:

    I would rather have Rubio but Crist is still popular in Florida and will not lose to Rubio. Heck the older Republicans who carry the day here dont even know who Rubio is. Because of Crist’s actions on the insurance industry here and keeping taxes down he is a shoe in imo. True conservatives may win elsewhere but not this Senate seat. Crist beats him by 7% minimum imo in the primary and thats after Rubio gets his message out there.

  2. MWS Says:

    Matthew,

    “And I’ll tell you, it is increasingly hard for minorities to line up behind the Republican colors.”

    You mean, “color,” not “colors.” ;-)

    Great post, Matthew.

  3. MarkG Says:

    What good is a big tent if everyone looks the same?

    [...] And I’ll tell you, it is increasingly hard for minorities to line up behind the Republican colors.

    This is a real dilemma that inhibits GOP outreach to minorities. I’ve heard others remark on the uniformity of skin color on display at major Republican events such as party conventions an candidate rallies.

    I have no idea how to overcome this, in part because of the instant judgment many make against anything a speaker says who is a member of the white majority. Some people look at the complexion of the speaker and are unwilling to listen. (And I use the vague term “some people” not in order to be PC and avoid racial/ethnic categories, but because I also hear whites who turn a deaf ear to conservative ideas on the basis of the presenters’ skin color.)

    But what do you do? If you’re blessed/cursed with the white, ethnically Anglo appearance and hold conservative beliefs, you can’t change your appearance in order to get someone to listen to your ideas who is viscerally unwilling.

    And I figure the problem is even harder to overcome if you’re black and hold conservative, decidedly Republican views. Then it seems you get vehemently dismissed as a traitor to your race, as shown in the debate-killing remarks about “house negro” or “Uncle Tom” frequently hurled at prominent black conservatives like Clarence Thomas, Thomas Sowell, etc. One extreme instance recently was the leftist black radio talker excoriating the liberal black journalist Juan Williams as a racial traitor because Williams works for Fox News.

    The only thing I can come up with here is the glib observation that if you’re in the white majority, you’re not expected by your racial peers to hold a set of political inclinations. If you’re a black American, you’re expected by your peers to maintain very specific political views — and to vote Democrat. If you’re black and don’t conform, you’re dismissed outright as a traitor and unworthy of being heard out.

  4. Mike Says:

    You will never get many more black Americans voting for Conservative Republicans. Most are taught from childhood that they are to vote Democrat and that Republicans are not their party. Its bad to say that but its true. And the few that do vote against the Democrats are branded uncle toms etc. in their community and by the mainstream media. I dont see how this will be changed anytime soon. The republicans could do an all out blitz trying to change perception and the numbers would hardly even move.

  5. Hungarian Says:

    Mike,
    It’s not about blacks. Their share of the population is rather stable. It ould be nice if we could get a chunk of their support but it is not pivotal. On the other hand we need to get te majority of the support of hispanics. We need to get stronger among Chinese Americans, a group that is growing.

  6. MWS Says:

    And what about the Hungarians? ;-)

  7. OHIO JOE Says:

    “And what about the Hungarians?” Haha, I know it is a delicate subject, but from a tactical point of view, Hispanics and Asians are a lot more important to the GOP than African Americans, even the clowns who run the party in my state recognize this and we have a lot more African Americans in Ohio than we do other minorities. It may be a sad commentary, but it is the reality of the current political landscape.

  8. MarkG Says:

    Off topic:

    Hilarious!

    Also, Reason Mag has been seeking interns — Matthew Miller and/or Alex Knepper should apply, I think. Check the Reason Hit-and-Run blog for details.

  9. DanL Says:

    MarkG, I loved that video. Especially as they were making fun of UPS crappy tv ads in the process.

  10. Jonathan Says:

    I have a sad but certain feeling that this race will have nothing to do with Florida or the issues we Floridians want our next Senator to address. In the end, this is just going to be a proxy battle between all sorts of different factions within the national GOP who feel the need to channel their energies into one race.

  11. MWS Says:

    Jonathan,

    You’re probably right about that. Hopefully Rubio will resist the temptation to run as a national candidate.

    What sorts of local issues are on Floridians’ minds, btw, besides sinking home values?

  12. Adam Says:

    I hope Rubio runs as a Florida candidate instead of a national candidate. I also hope that Limbaugh and Beck stay the hell out. Let Rubio make his case to the FLORIDA electorate. If he is more conservative and better able to sell his vision then he will win. He’s got enough money now – he doesn’t need to match Crist dollar for dollar because the grass roots activists will pull him over the line.

    I’ve got to say though, that the Club for Growth has gotten involved gives me a little bit of heartburn. Locals don’t like when national special interest groups weigh in. They sure didn’t like it in the district next door to where I live…NY-23.

    If Rubio runs as a reasonable, problem-solving conservative but not Purist Conservative Republican – he will win and that can only be good for the GOP. If this becomes another Palin/Limbaugh/Beck moderate versus True Believer Clusterf*ck then that is going to be really bad for us.

    Hopefully this time cooler heads prevail.

  13. Tommy Boy Says:

    Adam,

    You do recognize that those grassroots activists that you cite as the people who will put Rubio over the top do see this as a “battle for the soul of the party?” Why do you think Rubio is getting features from National Review, Weekly Standard, Erick Erickson, Jon Henke, and etc.?

    Rubio himself compared what happened in NY-23 with his race. It helps him dramatically to nationalize the primary and then go back to national/local issues for the general.

  14. Right Says:

    What if Crist drops his beard and become full-fledged manlover? You’re pitting a gay against a Latino! I can’t choose mah mahnoritehs! I guess I have to go for the latter. They have more people and they reproduce.

  15. 2012-2020 Huckabee/Rubio Says:

    Rubio wins. Florida wins. The GOP wins.

    :)

  16. Chip Says:

    “I hope Rubio runs as a Florida candidate instead of a national candidate.” Marco Rubio is running for a federal office, not a local office. So they will be debating national issues.

  17. Adam Says:

    Tommy,

    That’s fine that they get their ideological disputes out of the way. But let the campaign be about Rubio’s time as Speaker of the House and let it be about how Crist performed as governor. The NY-23 race, by the end, had ZERO to do with NY-23 – and it was a turnoff. Let’s just hope that both Republicans don’t lose sight of the fact that local issues important to Florida residents are in the end what will matter to Floridians. It may well be that Meek is too weak to win and that in this particular case it won’t matter. But everyone on either side of the conservative/moderate divide will be watching this. It’s pretty clear that NY-23 was a lesson for future Republican contests on how NOT to handle ideological disputes. Let’s hope that FL is example of the right way to do it.

  18. OHIO JOE Says:

    ““I hope Rubio runs as a Florida candidate instead of a national candidate.” Marco Rubio is running for a federal office, not a local office. So they will be debating national issues.” BINGO!, yes, he needs to talk about local issues and about Florida. However, I just love how people are pretend as if he is running for school board or even for a spot on the county commission. Anybody who thinks that national issues play no role does not understand modern politics. Does anybody believe that the health care vote the other day was only about local issues?

  19. MWS Says:

    Adam,

    “It’s pretty clear that NY-23 was a lesson for future Republican contests on how NOT to handle ideological disputes. ”

    I absolutely agree there, though we were each supporting different candidates lessers of two evils.

    This race cannot devolve into another proxy war. This cannot be Rush/Sarah/Glen verses the specter of Specter.

    This race needs to be about principles and ideas, yes, but regarding HOW THEY RELATE TO THE CONCERNS OF FLORIDIANS, not Thomas Paine, or John Locke, or Thomas Jefferson.

  20. OHIO JOE Says:

    “The NY-23 race, by the end, had ZERO to do with NY-23″ That is what happens when a jar of worms is open and the worms crawl out. It is not so easy to put them back in the jar. Perhaps the big boys will know well enough to leave cans of worms alone because many of us are not going to help put the worms back in if this non-sense happens yet again.

  21. OHIO JOE Says:

    “Thomas Paine, or John Locke, or Thomas Jefferson” That is fine to leave these gentlemen out because with respect, I do not recall any of them being political gangsters.

  22. MWS Says:

    Ohio,

    “I just love how people are pretend as if he is running for school board or even for a spot on the county commission.”

    Not at all. Of course they will be discussing national issues, but (hopefully) not exclusively.

    Look at it this way. If Rubio’s campaign is delivering a boiler plate message that could be delivered anywhere, he will lose. He can’t just sound like a talk show host. Most voters live in the real world of mortgages, jobs, schools, and neighborhoods, not in the philosophical realm about “originalism” or “liberty vs. tyranny.”

    The winning formula (as McDonnell showed) is APPLYING conservative principles to mortgages, jobs, schools, and neighborhoods. That’s the point.

  23. Adam Says:

    Ohio Joe,

    Did some apparition come to you in your sleep a few weeks ago and tell you that should be combative and annoying from this day forward?

    No one thinks the health care vote was about local issues. Are you suggesting someone said that was the case, or what? But if the your dream candidate in NY-23 cared a whit about LOCAL ISSUES then Owens wouldn’t be in the House voting with Pelosi.

    There will be plenty of time to line up all of our members against the Democrats. What NY-23 taught us, in case you didn’t get it, is that the moderate and conservative factions need to come together in the end if we want to beat the Democrats.

  24. Tommy Boy Says:

    MWS,

    Yes and no. A Senate race is completely different from a governor’s race.

    If it is a battle between Crist the governor and Marco Rubio the House Speaker, it isn’t completely clear who conservative Republicans should support as Kris has demonstrated to much criticism.

    If it is a battle for “soul of the party” or whatever and is seen in the same lens as Miller has written here, then Rubio becomes the pretty clear choice for conservative Republicans.

    For the purposes of the Republican primary, Rubio probably wants the race to be more “liberty v. tyranny” than on their past records because he’s not miles ahead of Crist in the latter aspect.

  25. OHIO JOE Says:

    “No one thinks the health care vote was about local issues. Are you suggesting someone said that was the case, or what? But if the your dream candidate in NY-23 cared a whit about LOCAL ISSUES then Owens wouldn’t be in the House voting with Pelosi.” With respect, I am glad to hear that nobody thinks that health care is a local issue. The whole point is that Congressmen (and Congresswomen) make law for the whole country. It may not be right, but the reality of the situation is that special interest groups read Congressmen the RIOT Act on Saturday. One of these special interest group sent me (and I assume thousands of my fellow countrymen) an e-mail justifying the stands that they took and left a phone number to discuss the issue. While NY-23 is only one of 435 districts, the gloves came off in that district and from this day forward, the face of politics in the country is (at least) slightly changed and there is a new reality to deal with. If one thinks these types of races are too nationalized, they have not seen anything yet. The train has just moved on to the next station.

  26. Liz Says:

    Well over at Red State they’re saying Crist put up a phony website and Hitler video accusing Rubio of being behind it, as if we needed any more corrupt duplicity in politics. No thanks to Crist if the allegations are true.

  27. Western Says:

    Rubio states that he and Palin agree on issues:

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/67147-rubio-on-palin-i-cant-think-of-anything-her-and-i-disagree-with

  28. Incognito Says:

    Actually there *are* in the closet *moderate* Republicans. Probably more than you would imagine. Especially in my business (entertainment industry). Simply because we have to remain in the closet around both the liberal world and the far right world.

    Agreed, the Republican Party needs to reach out to minorities and become more inclusive if it wants to survive. Or perhaps we should have a 3 party system, Democratic, Republican and Far Right Conservative.

    And contrary to popular belief (read- Rush Limbaugh) *none* of my ‘moderate/conservative’ friends voted for Obama.

  29. Heath Says:

    If Marc ties himself with Palin I will be firmly back in the Crist fold.

  30. MWS Says:

    Heath,

    If Palin endorses Romney in 2012, will you vote for Huckabee?

  31. Aron Goldman Says:

    Generic Congressional Ballot
    Republicans Jump to Six-Point Lead on Generic Ballot
    http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/generic_congressional_ballot

  32. OHIO JOE Says:

    “If Palin endorses Romney in 2012, will you vote for Huckabee?” I would not be totally shocked if some Romneyites did back Mr. Huckabee were Mrs. Palin to endorse Mr. Romney. Frankly, at this point I hope she backs neither one of them.

  33. Aron Goldman Says:

    A Battle for Senate – And the GOP’s Soul
    In Florida, Opponents Charlie Crist and Marco Rubio Offer Two Very Different Visions for the Future of the Republican Party
    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/11/09/politics/main5591771.shtml

    If Rubio can convince enough of those voters that he deserves their vote – and raise enough money to put a dent in Crist’s six-to-one fundraising advantage – Rubio could effectively steal the nomination out from under Crist, and in the process help put the GOP on a path that some fear will lead to its marginalization.

    Rubio says he largely supports the tea party protesters, many of whom have cast health care reform as a socialist takeover. (The feeling is mutual: FreedomWorks, the conservative lobbying group that has helped organize the protests, is planning to mobilize thousands of volunteers on Rubio’s behalf.) Asked if he would welcome the support of former GOP vice presidential candidate and Alaska governor Sarah Palin, Rubio offers an unqualified yes, adding that “I can’t think of anything her and I disagree with off the top of my head.”

    Palin hasn’t offered an endorsement in the Florida Senate race, but she did weigh in on another race with some striking similarities – last week’s House contest in upstate New York. In that race, a moderate Republican was forced out of the contest amid a challenge from conservative party candidate Doug Hoffman; Hoffman went on to lose the election to Democrat Bill Owens, even though the rural district had been reliably Republican for years.

    Shortly before the vote, Rubio wrote this in a blog post: “For conservatives who still don’t believe we can be true to our principles and win elections, I hope NY-23 serves as a wake-up call.” Wouldn’t Hoffman’s loss, then, be a wake-up call of a different kind – evidence of the potential fallout when conservative Republicans like Rubio take on moderates from their own party?

    Not at all, Rubio said. He pinned the loss on the local Republican Party, which he said shouldn’t have selected moderate Republican Dede Scozzafava in the first place.

    “The blame lays on those who decided to anoint someone who was so outside the mainstream of Republican thought,” he argued.

    Some prominent Republicans, including former House speaker Newt Gingrich, saw the upstate House New York race as a cautionary tale about what happens when Republicans become too dogmatic, rejecting candidates who don’t conform to a relatively narrow set of beliefs. Gingrich suggested that conservatives like Rubio and Palin are engaged in a “purge” of moderates that could ultimately result in Democrat Nancy Pelosi being “speaker-for-life.”

    Rubio rejects the notion that there is a purge going on of moderate Republicans, arguing that Gingrich has it exactly backward, at least when it comes to his campaign.

    “People always couch it as ‘is there a purge of moderates,’” he said. “I think the real question is, ‘is there room for the conservatives in the party?’ Let’s not forget that the establishment has endorsed the moderate in this race, Charlie Crist. So if anything, the people fighting to be a part of the Republican Party are the conservatives in this race, not the moderates.”

  34. Aron Goldman Says:

    No longer conservative about his religion
    It says much about the transformation of the Republican Party that even Newt Gingrich is now carrying the cross.
    By Dana Milbank
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/09/AR2009110903302_pf.html

  35. Aron Goldman Says:

    ‘Scozzafava’ turns into epithet
    It’s a Grand Old Purging as moderate’s ouster spotlights Republican dysfunction
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/11/09/AR2009110903690_pf.html

    Scozzafava, who was stripped of her Republican leadership position in the New York State Assembly on Monday, says she has no regrets and even leaves open the possibility of running for the seat again as a Republican. She sees herself as a champion of local expertise over ideological purity.

    “How can Sarah Palin come out and endorse someone who can’t answer some basic questions,” Scozzafava asked. “Do these people even know who they are endorsing?”

    Those conservative forces now descend on Florida, where former House speaker Marco Rubio, who on Monday received the endorsement of the Club for Growth, might shove aside centrist Gov. Charlie Crist, who was once on John McCain’s short list for running mate. And Scozzafava has a warning.

    “There is a lot of us who consider ourselves Republicans, of the Party of Lincoln,” she said, her face now flush. “If they don’t want us with them, we’re going to work against them.”

  36. Aron Goldman Says:

    Palin remains a GOP player
    http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/10/gop.palin/index.html

    A recent CNN/Opinion Research Corp. poll found 85 percent of Republicans say Palin agrees with them on their most important issues. But only 49 percent of independents feel that way.

    It’s a telling measure of her political reach — and its limits — that the Republicans who won governor seats in Virginia and New Jersey this year politely rejected Palin’s offers to campaign for them.

    Both governors-elect owe their victories to huge majorities of independent voters.

    Palin is a politician fueled by her celebrity, which is lucrative, but not necessarily good.

    “Americans tend not to elect celebrities,” said David Frum, a former speechwriter for George W. Bush. “Arnold Schwarzenegger is the exception, but more often than not, people want something in their political leaders that is more steady, stable, and predictable.”

    Fans and critics inevitably point to Palin’s quitting as Alaska’s governor, with about a year and a half left in her first term, as her biggest political problem.

    “Only dead fish go with the flow,” she said as she was stepping down.

    It’s that kind of rogueness that made her a household name, but in the end may make Palin a player who helps shape the party rather than lead it.

    Of six Republican consultants interviewed — including four who supported the Palin nomination — all see her as playing a part in rebuilding the party. None thought she would be the next Republican presidential nominee, and only two thought she would even run.

  37. Aron Goldman Says:

    ‘Regular guy’ Thune is hot commodity in GOP circles
    http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/10/john.thune/

  38. OHIO JOE Says:

    “Scozzafava, who was stripped of her Republican leadership position in the New York State Assembly on Monday,” Well at least the GOP did something right.

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