I’ve got to speak out and at last join and share the outrage of many moderates with a female politicians who chose to abandon her post. This woman has sacrificed every shred of credibility she has and abandoned the post she took on for the great people of her state. It’s confusing, bewildering, and no one will take her seriously again.
Kay Bailey Hutchinson is now a joke. How can you have a political career after resigning from any office for any reason. Oh wait, Kay is a pro-choice moderate challenging a conservative Governor. Never mind…
July 29th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
Umm other than the abortion issues Hutchinson is fairly conservative.
July 29th, 2009 at 7:44 pm
Not to mention Kathleen Sebelius, Janet Napolitano — both of them abandoned their posts with about two years left to go, and disregarded their obligation to their constituents.
July 29th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
1 – that’s the only issue that counts to certain people.
The image I had of KBH as a tough-as-nails, never-back-down, take-no-prisoners leader-of-the-people is shattered. Wait…that isn’t what she’s built her career on.
July 29th, 2009 at 7:49 pm
Except that KBH was never trotted out as an attack dog that belittled “community organizing” as lacking actual responsibilities.
And KBH isn’t exactly a rookie. She sort of paid her dues in the party.
And there is also the fact that she is completely forthcoming about *why* she intends to leave. She isn’t lying about it.
July 29th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
KBH sold us out on TARP.
July 29th, 2009 at 7:51 pm
4 – I’m not so sure about that. Maybe KBH was secretly scared of becoming a “lame duck.”
July 29th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
5 – the least she could have done was trotted out some canard about how those greedy Wall-Street fat cats were God’s children.
July 29th, 2009 at 7:57 pm
They were picked to serve the adminstration. “quitting” to accept a a position with the adminstration is much different than having a hissy fit and taking your football and going home. Sorry, not the same. If KBH quit, I have not heard. If she is running, and will win before her term is up, that’s much different.
July 29th, 2009 at 8:06 pm
Oh come on Adam. Surely even you are capable of seeing the difference between the two.
People have no concern about somone who has been a senator for what, 15 to 20 years, and then seeking to be President or Governor versus someone who bails out of office without even completeing a single term! Many doubted Obama should be running for POTUS in his very first term of high office! Trying to compare the KBH and SP is simply stupid.
That said, while I, like most people, view her resignation negatively, I would have no problem supporting her is she wins the nomination.
July 29th, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Cute Adam. Brain dead, but cute.
July 29th, 2009 at 8:19 pm
Right-on, Adam.
Total hypocrisy!
July 29th, 2009 at 8:36 pm
SurveyUSA poll
Bob McDonnell (R): 55%
Creigh Deeds (D): 40%
July 29th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
new Virginia gubernatorial poll:
http://www.wdbj7.com/Global/story.asp?S=10811055
July 29th, 2009 at 9:02 pm
Adam Graham wrote:
“…outrage of many moderates with a female politicians who chose to abandon her post. This woman has sacrificed every shred of credibility she has and abandoned the post she took on for the great people of her state. It’s confusing, bewildering, and no one will take her seriously again.”
How many people are “outraged” that Palin resigned? How many people thought she lost all credibility? How many people said they would never take her seriously again? From the posts I saw, it seemed like most people still liked Palin but felt she was still unprepared at this time for the national stage, but with some work she could overcome that. That’s a far cry from being outraged at her resignation.
Seriously Adam, I think you’ve misread the whole situation. Most people I think were amazed and confused that Palin resigned, and given that she has limited executive experience in any other role, it seemed like something that even fans were somewhat disappointed about because it could be used as political fuel against her. But maybe that doesn’t matter much because Obama himself was very inexperienced when he landed the highest political job in the country.
But you completely exaggerate the point. I’m not exactly a Palin supporter, but I am confused as to why she would resign. And unlike a more experienced politician like Kay Hutchinsen, it doesn’t bode well for her political future. I don’t think it’s just political rivals and rival camps that feel this way (because if it was, that probably wouldn’t matter much). When people that have no strong opinion on Palin see it as a bad move, that says something.
In addition, the perception here is different too: Hutchinson already has lots of political experience and accomplishments and appears to be doing her constituents a favor by leaving since she won’t be able to devote much time to them since she’s running for higher office. Palin seems to be leaving because she couldn’t take the heat in the kitchen. (though I did see a post on here the other day where someone said her detractors just wanted her in the kitchen).
July 29th, 2009 at 9:25 pm
Sometimes, quitting is good. I see the decision to quit being a member of the State in the same light as someone who makes a decision to quit being a member of any other criminal organization.
July 29th, 2009 at 9:33 pm
#5: It’s entirely possible the initial TARP saved us from an actual depression.
And I say that as someone opposed to the extensions and all the funding, as someone who would completely separate the government and the economy.
July 29th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
Yea, but how many times did Obama promise (campaign) that he could pay for a nationalized health care program, create many new jobs at taxpayer expense, reduce the deficit and but not limited pass a clean air bill that causes energy prices to go up? Had Obama been living in a bubble?
July 29th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Palin is joke and a quitter. But then again, I could never figure out why people put her so high on a pedestal. She has accomplished nothing noteworthy.
July 29th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Absent TARP there would have been a small depression. In the long-run it’s arguable whether we would have been better off or not. Hysteresis suggests we wouldn’t have been.
July 29th, 2009 at 10:18 pm
The folks who are most against TARP now (and I’m not talking about the folks who think, as I do, that TARP could have and could be run much better) are the same folks who would be screaming the loudest if the financial system had failed.
What would they have done when their savings would have been wiped out (remember the FDIC went into the red and would have certainly been in even worse shape without TARP) and their late payments not allowed or forgiven because the creditors of bellyup finanical institutions would be looking to collect all they could or the all assets were held up in bankrupcty court? (Remember folks, bank accounts are INVESTMENTS with the bank. Bank goes bellyup–you lose your investment. So what do people do when they think the bank is in danger? They start a run on the bank to get their INVESTMENT before its gone, thus assuring that bank does go under–so in defense the bank closes (ever read about a “bank holiday”? and thus assuring that you can’t get your money even if it hasn’t evaporated yet.)
TARP could have been done better, but you “conservatives” that are so against TARP should go back and read up on what happens during a banking failure and the subsequent run on the financial system. How many of you folks had enough cash under your mattress to keep your personal lives and businesses going while you adjusted to not having access to your accounts or even losing your accounts? How many of your businesses could survive without access to short-term credit to cover operating expenses at the very time your customers quit paying their accounts due to you?
Think about it folks. And believe me, the little guy conservative would be hit really hard.
Arguing that saving the financial system from collapse should not be done because it is not “conservative” is a little bit to far removed from reality.
You know we did learn some lessons from the Great Depression.
And please, don’t say that you didn’t major in math (or economics).
July 29th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
And remember too folks, there was a really good reason why Great Grandfather and Great Grandmother were just too tramatized to put cash in the bank ever again after the Great Depression.
Do you really want to live through something like that?
July 29th, 2009 at 10:22 pm
man, i started watching the recent palin speeches. i just cant stand the way she puts together sentences and paragraphs. its just awful. kristofer et al, do you at least acknowledge its a very unique cadence she has going on?
July 29th, 2009 at 10:28 pm
I wasn’t outraged with either.
July 29th, 2009 at 11:36 pm
Geez, Perry’s mug oughtta be on Mount Rushmore if he keeps up the freedom talk. She’s got nerve going after him.
July 29th, 2009 at 11:37 pm
oh geeze Palin has a funny accent Romney has big hair, this is substantive
July 29th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
I’m with Metro and Strong America on TARP.
I recall at the time the feeling, ever so slight, of fear. That’s what the idea of the banking system collapsing should inspire in people – we aren’t talking about stimulus spending here folks, we are talking about the *framework* of the economy falling apart. There’s no way in heck that’s good. No economics student or professor I knew, right or left, didn’t believe that risk had to be averted.
The TARP program separated the conservative rhetorical populists – the folks that would let Rome burn for their political ideas – and the real conservatives who don’t want to see ours, our parents, and our grandparents savings blow up on us all.
July 29th, 2009 at 11:55 pm
#25–Liz, that “good” hair, not “big” hair. Ya’ll gotta be careful thar, especially when we are talking about Texas
July 29th, 2009 at 11:59 pm
#26–We should also mention that some financial institutions are already starting to pay the loans back.
Wouldn’t it be nice if the auto bailouts and stimulus pork worked that fast.
July 30th, 2009 at 3:24 am
KBH has been a senator for 16 years.
Ex gov Palin was a gov for 2.5 years.
Here endeth the lesson Adam. You seem to be about as clueless as ex gov Palin.
July 30th, 2009 at 4:22 am
The day GM and the assortment of local government and liberal interest groups pay back those fat checks is the day pigs fly, SA. Heck, I’d be happy to know just that they were good ideas and ended up working out, which it is obvious as Joe Biden so articulately has reminded us is not happening.
Heath,
Adam was calling out people for being hypocritical, not being hypocritical himself
July 30th, 2009 at 8:59 am
MPC,
I don’t think you understood my post.
Cheers.
July 30th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
The other key difference is that Hutchison has flagged this in advance, giving the party & voters time to prepare. Palin by contrast shocked everyone by giving no warning whatsoever.