Read this garbage:
PLAISTOW, N.H. — Ron Paul said the decision to exclude him from a debate on Fox News Sunday the weekend before the New Hampshire Primary is proof that the network “is scared” of him.
“They are scared of me and don’t want my message to get out, but it will,” Paul said in an interview at a diner here. “They are propagandists for this war and I challenge them on the notion that they are conservative.”
Paul’s staff said they are beginning to plan a rally that will take place at the same time the 90-minute debate will air on television. It will be taped at Saint Anselm College in Goffstown.
“They will not win this skirmish,” he promised.
The Fox debate occurs less than 24 hours after two back to back Republican and Democratic debates on the same campus sponsored by ABC News, WMUR-TV and the social networking website Facebook.
Paul, the Republican Texas Congressman, was wrapping up his final day of campaigning in New Hampshire until the Iowa Caucuses on Thursday.
He spent much of the day campaigning at diners in Manchester and Plaistow and downtown walks in Derry and Exeter.
You know something? If all of these so called “conservatives” in the party want to black out candidates, then they are nothing but a bunch of hypocrites. Ron Paul is not Allen Keyes or Jon Cox. He has every right to be at the debate.
The folks who are supporting this are probably crying about CFR, since they don’t mind it as long as they can control what the candidate says, but they want to shut someone out who doesn’t share the same views? I would understand if Paul was irrelevant in this election cycle, but he’s not.
Speaking for a lot of Fred Thompson supporters, this isn’t what we believe in and Paul doesn’t deserve this type of treatment.
December 29th, 2007 at 6:13 pm
I think Ron’s time would be better invested if he turned down the debate, even if they did end up inviting him, and held a huge rally/townhall meeting next door to talk openly and at length about real issues. If Ron goes, you know it’s just going to be Chris Wallace and smarmy “marching orders from al Qaeda” quips.
December 29th, 2007 at 6:13 pm
Tommy, do you have the ability to post the new Iowa ARG poll from today? Or is this in Aron;s court?
December 29th, 2007 at 6:19 pm
Paul is 3 points ahead of Thompson on the RCP average for NH. If they are leaving him out they better leave out Fred and Duncan as well. Fox is trying to reduce the number of candidates so they have more time to try to take down Romney and bring Rudy back from the dead.
December 29th, 2007 at 6:23 pm
Btw, Ron’s got a new ad out today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2T-iJKwskH4
December 29th, 2007 at 6:24 pm
Were all the bloggers on R408 recently given secret orders not to post any more ARG polls or something? Lol, I think there’s been 29835082358235 comments today asking one of the bloggers to post that new Iowa poll, and no response.
December 29th, 2007 at 6:24 pm
I see no reason whatsoever to keep Paul out of the debate. He has enough support, even though I disagree with most of what he stands for.
December 29th, 2007 at 6:25 pm
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December 29th, 2007 at 6:27 pm
Josiah, the new ARG poll undercuts the current trend. As Abe would say, we can’t have a premature Huck-a-bust…
December 29th, 2007 at 6:29 pm
Sorry, but with the Strategic vision poll that showed Romeny closing in, and then that massive poll earlier today, ARG might have the numbers off, but they are clearly showing the same trend – Romney rising, Huck falling.
ARG is questionable, but there is no reason not to post this poll – not since we’ve been posting everything else to come out of ARG.
December 29th, 2007 at 6:29 pm
#7 scjim,
Aha! So you’re that spammer in your mother’s basement that wins all of the online polls for Ron Paul!
December 29th, 2007 at 6:32 pm
Ron Paul is a moonbat wackjob. The debates should have been narrowed a LOOOOOOONG time ago.
December 29th, 2007 at 6:38 pm
I’m very disappointed that no one has put up the ARG poll today. It was enough to move the intrade.com number for Iowas by 60 points today, so it might just be significant enough to post, you think?
December 29th, 2007 at 6:38 pm
Nah, Paul’s got a right to be there. He’s raising money like a fiend, and deserves the respect any other candidate gets.
December 29th, 2007 at 6:38 pm
Thank You, Tommy for fairness.
December 29th, 2007 at 6:44 pm
I am a Duncan Hunter supporter, I have worked on his campaign in the New Media arena and as an Internet blogger. But he didn’t qualify for the ballot in New Jersey or Delaware. Fred Thompson didn’t qualify for the ballot in Delaware or DC. Ron Paul is on all the ballots and has more money than probably all the candidates except Romney and that’s from his own personal wealth.
There is no reason to leave Paul off the debates, as he is within or above some of the other candidates in some States.
As far as Ron Paul goes, I support 99.5 of what he stands off, but it is that last .5% that is holding me back from supporting him. But even with that being said, he makes some good points that Conservatives want to hear, he has the money and the support and his poll numbers DICTATE that he appears in debates. For FoxNews to exclude him, it does raise some questions as to the reasons why.
This is no different than the Michigan GOP Chair pushing a petition to keep him out of the debate there mid-year.
Just because you don’t like his message, that doesn’t mean you stop him from saying it.
December 29th, 2007 at 6:45 pm
What date is this debate on, again? I can’t remember and I can’t find it anywhere.
December 29th, 2007 at 6:46 pm
There’s an ARG poll out today? I don’t always read comments when I post things unless something catches my eye. I don’t have time right now to post it. I’m watching football now and getting ready to go to a party. I’ll post it if it ain’t up by later.
ACT,
Quit your know it all crap. Personally, I could care less about ARG polls, but somebody will pick it up. Dude, the Novak poll wasn’t published for a reason. It’s a joke and shouldn’t even waste our time on it. And the LA Times showed Huckabee up by 14. What’s your point? There all crap and a lot of us are sick of them. But if its not up later I’lll get it up.
Paul S,
Not at the expense of disagreeing with someone.
Folks, I don’t always read the comments when I’m posting and doing three other things at the same time.
December 29th, 2007 at 6:49 pm
Excluding Ron Paul is totally unacceptable. He is polling higher than Fred Thompson in NH and I assume that Fred got an invite.
December 29th, 2007 at 7:10 pm
Josiah!
” think Ron’s time would be better invested ”
You got a point here. However, I think Faux exclusion is helping Ron Paul at this moment.
I tend to think that many Republicans have developed set of believes by watching warmongering Faux. I hope this incident will give them opportunity to realize what Faux News organization really is: warmongering propaganda organization uncommitted to conservatism, but rather to statism in the best interest of the elits. And, hopefully, out of this realization they will examin, if they support to intervantionizm is the product of they own believes or rather Faux News propaganda.(BTW, some time ago I came to that conclusion).
December 29th, 2007 at 7:13 pm
#19 This Fred guy that thinks RP is a kook on foreign policy, still thinks he deserves to be invited.
December 29th, 2007 at 7:13 pm
#21 I’ll bet FNC backs off this exclusion.
December 29th, 2007 at 7:27 pm
Gamecock!
With all do respect. Could you refrain from “kook” comments, please? It takes all your credibility.
When you call RP kook you call me kook, too, because I have the same opinion. Do you want me to call you e$$.ol? I don’t.
Respect, please. Afterall RP is a senior citizen and House Representative of The United States Congress.
December 29th, 2007 at 9:05 pm
This is absurd. I’m not a Paul supporter but I full heartedly believe he has enough support to be in the debate. Just b/c someone is running for President, doesn’t mean they should be in the debate (ie Keyes), but Paul is a legitimate canidate with a legitimate base. This really is unacceptable.
December 29th, 2007 at 9:24 pm
Ron Paul lost his right to participate in any debates in the United States when he made that insulting, deeply offensive and near teasonous statement back in May at the other Fox debate, accusing the US of being responsible for the attacks of 9/11.
He should have been banished from the entire political process for that.
Eric Dondero, Fmr. Senior Aide
US Congressman Ron Paul (R-TX)
1997-2003
December 29th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
As for Fred being lower in the polls than Paul, last time I checked Senator Thompson never blamed his own country for the Radical Islamic attacks on New York City, the Pentagon and Flight 93.
Fred Thompson is an American who loves his country. Ron Paul spits on the very country that gave him the freedom to espouse his looney tune views.
December 29th, 2007 at 9:34 pm
This is crap. they should not be excluding ron paul. are they excluding hunter?
ron paul should be in the debate. he has definetly earned his spot there. this ticks me of.
December 29th, 2007 at 9:44 pm
#24/25 Eric,
Last time I checked, Ron Paul said that our severely flawed foreign policy was the reason they attacked us on 9/11, not that the US was “responsible” for the attacks of 9/11.
Though, as a disgruntled former employee who got put out, I can see why you’d want to distort Ron’s words.
December 30th, 2007 at 2:15 am
Fox better let Ron Paul go to the debate because he has every right to be there. Furthermore, the only reason they want him out is because his views are different than their’s; but you know what, right now Ron Paul is the only one who can save this country from complete destruction. if he is not elected president than all hopes for the U.S.A becoming a strong nation again are lost, so please, vote for Ron Paul, you’ll be doing this country a great favor
December 30th, 2007 at 2:30 am
Ron Paul should debate. Mitt, Rudy, McCain, Thompson, Hunter, Huckabee and Paul. This is still a manageable size.