[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDEh2XWSheg[/youtube]
Here’s Hizzoner’s reaction to last night’s debate from his interview with Sean Hannity:
SEAN HANNITY: “Let me start with the Democrats blasting you. You were a big name last night in the debate even though you weren’t there. I’m sure you’re aware of it by now.”
MAYOR GIULIANI: “Sean, we claimed victory in last night’s debate. I think I was the clear winner since I got mentioned more than the Democrats got mentioned and I didn’t make a mistake. I didn’t say that I saw an unidentified flying object. I didn’t give two internally contradictory answers to one question. Never seen that before. I’ve seen Hillary, you know do a southern accent in the South and talk like a New Yorker in New York and take two different positions on Iran and six different positions on Iraq , but I never saw her take two different positions in one minute in front of the same audience.”
HANNITY: “It’s priceless isn’t it?”MAYOR GIULIANI: “No, I think that we should just keep that tape. It says everything that Obama and Edwards were trying to say about her not being able to take and stick with a position. It is-I’ve never seen that in a presidential debate. I’ve seen a lot of things go wrong, but I’ve never seen anybody say two totally contradictory things about a simple subject – either for or against driver’s licenses for illegals. This is not like a really complex question.”
HANNITY: “Well, she equivocated on a number of issues here including the answer on Social Security. A blue ribbon commission?”
MAYOR GIULIANI: “She usually gets out of it by saying, ‘I don’t answer hypothetical questions. These are complex matters of war and peace, life and death.’ Give me a break. A driver’s license is not. You either are for it or against it. Obama was able to get the answer out. He said he’s for it. I’m against it. Ok. We can debate that. I can respect the disagreement. But that kind of game they play. I mean this is the worst of the Clinton years coming back, I think, to kind of stare her in the face.” …
Happy Halloween Everyone!
October 31st, 2007 at 7:37 pm
Romney’s Reaction:
“So far, the Democratic presidential candidates debate shows just how unrealistic Hillary Clinton and her band of Democrats are when it comes to facing down the serious threats the nation faces in the world today.
The Democrats want to reduce our foreign policy and military posture to a garden party with just carrots and sticks, choosing empty rhetoric over any semblance of a detailed vision for safety and security. Governor Romney, on the contrary, firmly believes that America’s place in the world is defined by its strength and purpose, not carrots and sticks held by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.”
October 31st, 2007 at 7:39 pm
How in the world do we get so many priceless shots of Hillary? I’ve never seen anything remotely comparable of any other candidate, ever (but maybe I just visit all the wrong websites).
October 31st, 2007 at 7:44 pm
Pn,
Well, there is debate as to whether that shot of Hillary is authentic or not. I just read a blog post on it actually where the writer analyzed it and can to the conclusion that it is probably a fake.
Still funny though…
If it’s real, it’s the worst photo of a politician in American History.
October 31st, 2007 at 7:46 pm
I never knew that Romney was a neocon pile of trash. This proves it.
http://www.nowarforisrael.com
October 31st, 2007 at 7:48 pm
Paul Leaves Third Party Door Open An Inch
During an MSNBC interview Wednesday, Rep. Ron Paul was asked if he would run for president as a third-party candidate. Paul replied, “No, I don’t plan to run in a third party. That’s not my goal. But if we have a candidate that loves the war and loves the neocon position of promoting–” Interviewer Norah O’Donnell cut Paul off at that point, and did not return to the topic during the rest of the interview.
– Cicero
Thank Goodness. At least no we will have a choice besides to liberal neocons. Hillary and Rudy.
October 31st, 2007 at 7:50 pm
One interesting aspect of this is that Hannity is clearly in the Rudy camp and his radio broadcast and Fox show could prove an invaluable mouthpiece for his campaign. If Rudy is able to get Rush’s support before the primary he might have this thing locked up.
October 31st, 2007 at 7:51 pm
That might be what Madame President would look like while yielding her veto pen. Yikes!
October 31st, 2007 at 7:57 pm
Hot!
October 31st, 2007 at 7:58 pm
Or, from another angle:
Do not want!
October 31st, 2007 at 8:00 pm
Kavon, THE WORST? Have you seen THESE?:
h++p://poljunk.gloriousnoise.com/images/hillary.jpg
h++p://www.judiciaryreport.com/images/Hillary-Clinton-eyes.jpg
October 31st, 2007 at 8:07 pm
You know what gets so freakin old…Everybody is all “ooh, Guiliani is so great…the way he handled 911…running into the rubble when everyone else was running out.” Rudy is nothing but the Bush Administrations whore. Everybody knows he ran into the rubble because it was an inside job and he KNEW there was no real danger. He is the biggest neocon ever. Anything for a war, right Rudy? Even at the cost of millions of Americans’ lives. Ron Paul is the only way to go…unless you go (i hate to say) democratic.
October 31st, 2007 at 8:10 pm
MOLLY=LOON
Go away, please.
October 31st, 2007 at 8:15 pm
molly, i’m still trying to get an answer to this question from one of your kind. please be the one!
Because there were no weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, the United States hasn’t looked so bad in the eyes of the international community since perhaps the Vietnam war. If the country could pull off 9-11 in the heart of America’s biggest city and convince 90% of the world it was al qaeda, why weren’t they able to plant WMDs in Iraq?
October 31st, 2007 at 8:21 pm
Because Americans are so frickin stupid. All they have to do is raise the terror alert and everybody goes nuts. We are so gullable, why would they put any REAL work into a set up? They don’t need to plant WMD’s; they just have to scare us and we do and believe what we are told. We are so gullable that we put “Support Our Troops” magnets on our car that say made in China…Isn’t China a communist country? I bet if we put ‘Made in Cuba” on them, they would be illegal. But, we don’t owe money to Cuba, so we can hate them all we want.
October 31st, 2007 at 8:32 pm
they’re too stupid? it would take some smart people to pull off 9-11 and then tack blame on a small group on the other side of the globe, no? you might want to re-read the question. I said the INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY. we got it, you think americans are dumb. but the question remains: why didnt we plant WMDs to boost our image OUTSIDE the United States?
October 31st, 2007 at 8:38 pm
Molly,
Americans are not as “frickin stupid” as you would believe. They can actually see through those who espouse wild theories such as yourself. Those supposed “stupid” Americans also intuitively perceive paranoid/schizophrenic ramblings like yours.
Ron Paul has some good points to make, however, folks like you cement the fact that he will always be a fringe candidate no matter how much money he is able to raise.
October 31st, 2007 at 8:46 pm
I think Ron Paul has great points. But if we take Rudy seriously why can’t we take Ron Paul seriously. Rudy was mayor of a city, thats it. When a party is so desperate for a candidate that they start looking at mayors as possible Presidential prospects, thats when you know a party is in trouble. If you think Ron Paul has great ideas, why would you not vote for him. Rudy is putting more neocons on his foreign policy team and basically going to emulate the Bush Presidency. Except Rudy is a real neocon, Pro-choice, pro-gay rights. Neocons come from the left, the Woodrow Wilson era.
October 31st, 2007 at 8:51 pm
Except that neocons are populists (see: W’s administration). Rudy is more concisely put as a neo-libertarian, since he is a social moderate, extremely fiscally conservative, and a war hawk. Wikipedia and Google are your friends.
October 31st, 2007 at 8:53 pm
1.) Scott, Thank you fro proving my point. 911 makes no sense in the box that we live in. So, when we don;t get answers that make sense, maybe we should try looking OUTSIDE the box. You may call it paranoid, I call it using the first ammendment to look for answers. Isn’t that the great thing about America? That I can speak out against the government and try to demand answers? No, I will not go away just because you do not agree with me.
2.) Sampo, I don’t understand where your question came from. I was talking about 911. WHat does that have to do with Iraq? The last time I checked, the Bush administration was not all that concerned about what other countries thought of us. Why would they go out of there way to prove themselves to other countries when WE are the ones that elect them? I actually think it would have been brilliant to plant WMD’s..we wouldn’t look like such idiots if we had. We need someone in office who will ask questions and that person is Ron Paul.
October 31st, 2007 at 8:57 pm
I guess i cant help you if you don’t understand the question. all the pieces are there.
so you’re supporting a guy who doesn’t believe 9-11 was in inside job? i’ve always wondered why your kind gravitated toward him when Ron Paul blames it on al qaeda like the rest of the world.
October 31st, 2007 at 8:58 pm
LOL CONSPIRACY THEORIST.
And that’s all I have to say about that!
October 31st, 2007 at 9:00 pm
molly i’m dedicating this song to you:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFowNFvmUxw
October 31st, 2007 at 9:04 pm
Thanks Sampo, but the last thing I need from you is a musical dedication..I am surprised though, I thought it would be Brought to you courtesy of the Red White and Blue.
October 31st, 2007 at 9:14 pm
Well put Adam. I mean about Rudy. Rudy’s foreign policy team is starting to look almost identical to Bush’s. Thats not good at all. This will eventually come back to hurt Rudy. He is way too much like Bush. Neocons have done nothing but killed the Bush Administrations credability. They have also cost U.S. citizens in dollars and lives. If I were Romney(the only candidate who has not been completley overtaken by neocons) would stress this about Rudy, McCain and Thompson. Richard Pearle and Wolfie completely ruined the Bush Presidency.
Ron Paul has called for open investigation into 911, he has said that many times. I would be open to investigations.
October 31st, 2007 at 9:36 pm
Molly,
Do you realize what you are actually implying? You are saying that Mayor Giuliani lost many friends and collegues and ran into the hell of chaos after having been trapped himself, because he KNEW of some sinsiter plan?
Listen, I lost many members of my community in the 9/11 attack. I watched it up-close. Be careful with your dumb accusations.
According to your theory, Rudy would have had to be the devil incarnate to carry out what you have asserted. As a paranoid, you have twisted legitimate concerns about American foriegn policy and wedded them to the most outrageous conspiracy theory.
Giuliani lost very close friends and collegues in the TERRORISTS’ attack. I, personally, was affected by the loss of many of my neighbors, both cops and firemen who ran to an attack on US soil in order to help their fellow man in addition to those who worked in the financial district, particuarly at Cantor Fitzgerald.
So again, please…Go away. By the way, I did not help your delusional mind think outside the box, inside or otherwise. Every spectrum you look through just brings you back to the same delusional/paranoid worldview.
October 31st, 2007 at 10:14 pm
The one thing that makes me feel in good company on this board is that most, if not all, Giuliani, Romney, McCain, Thompson and Huck supporters would all denounce YOU and YOUR DELUSIONAL/PARANOID accusations!!
Another site banned Paul supporters because of their connections with racists, etc. This site is quite fair and not authoritiarian in any way, in my opinion. The greatest way to get rid of you, Molly, is for ALL of us to reject your distorted pathology!
October 31st, 2007 at 10:40 pm
Maybe Race42008 should follow our friends at Redstate with their policy for Ronbots: all Ron Paul supporters must have their posts written in haiku.
October 31st, 2007 at 11:21 pm
SCOTT: IGNORING A TROLL IS LIKE KRYPTONITE TO SUPERMAN.
IGNORE IT AND IT WILL GO AWAY.
October 31st, 2007 at 11:31 pm
Congratulations, sampo. You’re no longer the biggest whack job on race42008
November 1st, 2007 at 1:42 am
kemp: If you think it’s a bad sign that the Republican Party is considering a mayor as a presidential candidate, what does that say about Ron Paul? Only one person has gone directly from the House of Representatives to the Presidency, and that was James A. Garfield, 127 years ago.
Not to mention that it wouldn’t be a good sign for the Republican Party to nominate someone for president who failed to vote for the Republican nominee in the last two presidential elections, and in at least three of the last five. I would hope we could find someone a little more supportive of the party than that. (Ron Paul has admitted that he did not vote for George W. Bush in 2000 or 2004, and of course in 1988 he ran as the Libertarian nominee.)
November 1st, 2007 at 3:37 am
Another Hillary gem:
h++p://www.imao.us/archives/Halloween%20Hillary.jpg
November 1st, 2007 at 3:44 am
#1 — ACT – we can call them “Cabbage Patch” Nominees.
November 1st, 2007 at 3:48 am
#6 – I felt like Rush was leaning towards Fred Thompson (you know, their cigar aficianado and all), but he really loved what Mitt said about Hillary being an “intern” and he’s said good things about Rudy, too.
I think he’s going to hold back voicing support until the nominee is chosen, if he’s wise, because he has a lot of influence on people. I think some people would listen to Rush instead of truly looking into the candidates’ positions, characters and qualifications themselves.
November 1st, 2007 at 3:53 am
Sampo – regarding the 9/11 conspiracy — Bill O’Reilly was talking about Rosie O’Donnel tonight and he said something that made a lot of sense to me — he said if Rosie truly knew that 9/11 was an inside job – and she had proof, that if she were a true patriot she would reveal the information to save the country.
As it is, she is just a big mouth … well, I can’t really think of an appropriate name for her … I know … she is a big mouth bore.
If she has the goods … let her be the hero and come out with the facts.
Otherwise, it’s just conspiracy crap.
November 1st, 2007 at 3:54 am
#29 – Irish — LOL!
November 1st, 2007 at 4:33 am
Beth,
“I think he’s going to hold back voicing support until the nominee is chosen, if he’s wise, because he has a lot of influence on people. ”
You’re absolutely right. Rush is a businessman first and foremost. With no Republican candidate polling at over 30 percent he definitely doesn’t want to piss off 70 percent of his listeners and risk them tuning out. I suspect that we won’t see him shilling for anyone until it’s abundantly clear who our nominee will be.
It certainly won’t be a replay of 1999 and 2000 when Rush played attack dog to Sen. McCain. I can’t remember a day in the months leading up to that election where Rush didn’t bash McCain and relentlessly push his listeners to support Bush. Maybe, looking back, we should have had a better vetting of our candidate and maybe the GOP would be better off today if so many of the rank and vile didn’t blindly follow “opinion leaders” like Rush Limbaugh.
One thing I’ve always noticed about Limbaugh though is that he proclaims his support for all of these so-con positions but I don’t think he is sincere. This is a guy that is constantly making sexual innuendos and jokes. Don’t get me wrong – I don’t care – it doesn’t bother me. I just don’t believe his professed support for so-con causes is real. His personal life backs up my hunch.
I agree with you though. For a while he seemed to be sucking up to Fred – back when the many of the talking heads were more sure he was to be the GOP savior. I think it’s because he just wants to try to keep the Reagan coalition together because he is convinced that’s what is needed to win. I suspect that no one is gonna put that humpty dumpty back together again.
November 1st, 2007 at 4:42 am
“I think it’s because he just wants to try to keep the Reagan coalition together because he is convinced that’s what is needed to win.”
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Bingo.
November 1st, 2007 at 4:46 am
KnightHawk,
Yeah. But you would think he would have the ability to forsee that the same coalition that was able to win an 18-point landslide in 1984 was only able to win by 3 points in 2004 – and then was when everyone was all fired up. Sometime, sooner or later, the Goopers are going to have to face the fact that they need to try something new.
November 1st, 2007 at 7:15 am
I am glad I could get people so angry on this site you guys really need to find a little more constructive to do with you time.
Joshua, you then admit that a mayor could never really have the qualifications to be Prez. Another thing, I am not a Ron Paul supporter. I think he has good ideas and I would never vote for someone who stacks his foreign policy team with blood thirsty zionist neocons (RUDY,MCCIAN,THOMPSON)
November 1st, 2007 at 7:42 am
It is telling that America has never elected a mayor as President, and NYC has always been a large city. The reasoning, I suspect, is that the federal government is a different beast. It has a large legislative component. But the real difference is the need for an understanding of foreign policy, not just for defense but also for trade and other international arrangements.
It also used to be that a substantial percentage of our elected officials had military experience, which would somewhat mitigate against the need to have separate foreign policy experience. Now, with very few veterans as candidates, it is essential that they have some alternative experience and that is mostly through service on congressional committees or in the executive branch. This, I believe, is the indomitable weakness of Giuliani and Romney.
November 1st, 2007 at 9:10 am
molly: you are obviously a sleezy Democrat or democrat wannabe, go to Rosie.com where trash is welcome.
November 1st, 2007 at 9:31 am
Let’s entertain for a moment as fact that 9/11 was a Bush-neocon-Zionist-Giuliani (BNZG) conspiracy performed by an immensely powerful federal government (required to pull it off) for the purpose of squashing all freedom in America and obtaining ultimate world power. This means that folks who question 9/11 would not be capable of questioning it. They’d all be disappeared or removed to secret prisons, Disney World for torturers, etc.
It follows that Molly and Kemp cannot actually exist in a form at liberty to post here or elsewhere on the internets. We must therefore conclude that these folks have been produced by the same BNZG conspirators to cover their own tracks for the purpose of disproving the reality of the conspiracy.
Molly and Kemp are therefore part of a much larger inside job. It’s worse than I could have ever imagined…
November 1st, 2007 at 10:09 am
Rudy was a complete failure as mayor of NYC until his ‘lucky day’ (9/11). It made him a ‘hero’.
The man had an approval rating of 28% in 2000, which he richly deserved.
Why anyone would vote for this failure defies logic and reason.
November 1st, 2007 at 10:33 am
Evie,
I’m about as outspoken in supporting Romney as you will find, but suggesting Giuliani was a failure as mayor prior to 9-11 is to be as out of touch with reality as Molly. The number of murders in NYC under his tenure dropped from more than 2000 a year to something like 700. He literally saved the lives of thousands of New Yorkers. He revived the economy and cleaned up the city, literally as well as figuratively. He made the town liveable again. Riding the subways became a mode of transportation again instead of a depressilng nightmare. The tourist industry began to thrive again. Taxes went down. I could go on, but George Will had it right when he asserted that it was an amazing feat of conservative governance.
November 1st, 2007 at 12:12 pm
Uh Oh. Trash-talking Paul zealots have hit this site hard recently and seem to be reducing the discussion to incoherent babble. Maybe put a Paul ban on this site like they did at Redstate.
November 2nd, 2007 at 10:46 pm
“Sometime, sooner or later, the Goopers are going to have to face the fact that they need to try something new.”
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Oh I believe Rush sees that clearly enough, but I think frankly he doesn’t want to be the one (especially not this early) to break the bad news to at least a good 1/3rd his audience and he’s smart enough to know not to get involved till after Feb 5th.