I was checking the news and came across this nice little article (sarcasm). I clicked on the trackback to see who was behind it, and low and behold. The top advertisement was “That Guy!” It did have me laughing out loud, however. It seems the Preacher who refered to voting for Romney is “voting for Satan” is back, and with a new bone to pick:
2007-06-27 — [WDC News Post] — WASH? Christians looking for a Presidential candidate in Fred Thompson ought to think about it a bit more before jumping on the bandwagon. Thompson has been very elusive about his faith since Focus on the Family?s James Dobson suggested that Thompson should declare his faith. At that time, a Thompson spokesman said that the prospective candidate was baptized into the Church of Christ?a sect that some consider a dangerous cult because of its teachings on baptism and works based doctrines that question the atonement of sins through Jesus Christ.
A recent story reveals a good deal more about Fred Thompson?s character. Headlined ?Old Girlfriends Cast Their Vote For Thompson?, reporter Sara Baxter writes: ?In the battle for the women?s vote, Fred Thompson has a secret weapon against Hillary Clinton – the legions of former girlfriends who still adore him and who want him to be president. The Hollywood actor and former Tennessee senator racked up an impressive list of conquests during his swinging bachelor days in the 1990s, but he appears to have achieved the impossible and kept their friendship and respect.?
And he also said this….
2 John 7 says, ?For many deceivers have gone out into the world who do not confess Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.? So Christians who stand on true Biblical principles are faced with bleak choices for the moment in Thompson and cult member Mitt Romney.Voters beware.
Well, now I guess we can take Thompson off the list of candidates pulling this guys strings to knock Romney out of the way! 
June 27th, 2007 at 5:12 pm
That guy is freaky looking to me. “Cult member?” Please! Enough of that nonsense already. Perhaps if Romney was bald, then this nut job could see that Romeny does not have horns.
June 27th, 2007 at 5:13 pm
I hope this means that all of Thompson’s supporters will denounce this guy and realize that he isn’t credible on Thompson or Romney. However, my guess is that many will still buy into his rhetoric on Romney while denouncing what he says about Fred.
June 27th, 2007 at 5:19 pm
A simple fact of life is that the media gives the biggest microphone to the nuttiest people.
June 27th, 2007 at 5:19 pm
Nobody is buying into this guy’s rhetoric, Dskinner.
June 27th, 2007 at 5:45 pm
“Nobody is buying into this guy’s rhetoric, Dskinner.”
I don’t know about that Tommy. If that were true, he would not have a following or a microphone.
June 27th, 2007 at 5:47 pm
Possibly, but the ones who buy into this guy’s rhetoric are usually either preparing for Armeggedon, WW 3, or currently supporting Dr. Paul.
June 27th, 2007 at 6:08 pm
This preacher is engaged in bigoted hate speech. Any suggestion that Mormonism is outside of Christianity is dangerous rhetoric that serves only to fracture the ecumenical doctrinal unity that conservatives should strive for. As for his baseless attacks on Senator Thompson they are just absurd. FDT is a loyal husband, father and deeply religious and spiritual leader.
June 27th, 2007 at 6:18 pm
Actually, I have to disagree with you JA Pruce. Suggestions that Mormonism is outside of Christianity (regardless of their merit) are quite common-place. And I was not aware that Fred was a deeply religious and spiritual leader…can that be substantiated?
However, I also agree on two more important points. Romney’s religion should disqualify him from the Presidency no more than Fred’s skirt chasing.
June 27th, 2007 at 6:31 pm
I personally think Mormonism is outside of Christianity but I don’t see what that has to do with politics. I’d vote for a Jew or any other virtuous person of faith.
I respect people of all faiths. Many so-called Christian politicians are unprincipled villains. I’m not going to choose a Christians I disagree with over a non-Christian I do agree with.
June 27th, 2007 at 6:35 pm
Conservatives are to strive for ecumenical unity – what is that suposed to mean? The idea that Mormonism is not christianity seems quite aceptable to me – I don’t think they believe in the supreme divinity of Christ. However, the important point is that for politics it doesn’t matter – being a Seventh Day Adventist, I am very unlikely to have a president I agree with theologicaly, so I will settle with agreeing with them politically.
June 27th, 2007 at 6:48 pm
For me I like that Romney’s a Mormon for two reasons:
1. Coming from a minority religion ( which has been persecuted) would encourage him to be tolerant and stand up for religous liberty.
2. It means that he has principle and conviction to stay in such a religion. This along with the fact that he is the father of five children and has never been divorced sugests to me that his flip – flops may be honest.
I totally disagree with Mormons on Theology, but his mormonism is actually a plus in my book.
June 27th, 2007 at 7:10 pm
I was wondering What will happen to the Dem and Republican 08 people that can’t raise the 2nd quater money that is due this saturday 30th of june? will we see the non real canidates start to drop out of 2008 race yet?
June 27th, 2007 at 7:16 pm
Greg,
I don’t know. I would like to think so, but these guys are quite stubborn. None of the substantial candidates will be going anywhere, I suspect. Rudy, Romney, McCain, and Huckabee will still be around. F. Thompson has just started. Ron Paul actually is supposed to raise enough money to stay in the race awhile longer. I don’t know what will happen to the others, and they really haven’t garnered enough support to make much difference in the polls. Tommy Thompson will probably still be in too.
June 27th, 2007 at 7:18 pm
John, I think that for the purposes of politics we need to remain ecumenical and unified in our patriotism and policies and not let fractious religious and denominational disagreements get in the way. We need to be ecumenical in the language that we use so that we do not alienate any voters. But I think that if Gov. Romney is nominated we cannot afford to speak of Mormonism as being “outside of Christianity.†I think that we need to be united in our response otherwise it just confuses very susceptible voters. I actually like Romney formulation of this – when asked about his faith he responds that “he believes in the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ” or something to that affect. This basically calms the unfounded fears of many in the Christian Right and makes him seem more like one of them, playing up commonalities and downplaying differences. He has also stated for the benefit of some on the right that if elected he will only be sworn in on the King James Version of the Bible not the Book of Mormon or the New International Version for that matter. This also serves to calm the irrational criticism of Christian conservatives. I am actually currently leaning towards Romney with FDT a close second and I agree with you that his distinctly American and increasingly popular Mormonism is an advantage not a disadvantage. And if the criticisms from the small percentage of religious bigots sticks he can play the victim card as he is a member of a religious minority.
June 27th, 2007 at 7:24 pm
hey tommy oliver ,
Do you see any democrats leaving the race with the 2nd quater funds report is due 30th june saturday?
June 27th, 2007 at 7:36 pm
I just hope we won’t have to see these 12 people on the debates floor thru Christmas? I don’t think everyone will have lot of money to campaign in till primay season in jauary febuary will they?
June 27th, 2007 at 7:43 pm
What does being a political conservative have to do with desiring ecumenical unity?
In any event, I think our wacky friend pictured up top should do his homework. The Church of Christ that Thompson belongs to is quite distinct from the wacky, cultish Church of Christ that he is thinking of. So convinced are some folks that there isn’t “one of them” in the race that they will gladly jump to any and every conclusion to justify their persecution complex.
June 27th, 2007 at 7:54 pm
I think we might see one or two Dems, at the most. Possibly, but not likely, Dodd. The trick with the Democrats is that their lower candidates are actually more appealing than their upper ones (except for two of them) Gravel and Kucinich are totally unpredictable and I don’t have a clue as to what they’re going to do. Most will likely stay in until after the IA straw Poll and then possibly drop out.
On our side, I don’t see the point of Gilmore hanging around much longer. Tancredo seems determined to stay in to push the immigration issue, but he is being pressured from his constituents about his congressional seat. I would actually like Hunter to stay in because I think he adds to the debates. I almost forget that Brownback is even running, and I don’t see him in the race much longer, as for all intents and purposes, Huckabee has passed him and taken his mantle.
June 27th, 2007 at 8:13 pm
I think on the Democrats side I think Edwards is the one that will fight hillary for the Democrats nomination?
June 27th, 2007 at 8:29 pm
Probably. Edwards is hard to predict, and also I don’t know if his wife will let him quit!
June 27th, 2007 at 8:31 pm
would he accept VP spot again then?
June 27th, 2007 at 8:35 pm
Yea. I think that might be his strategy, again. He wants to be a part of an administration. I would think that the best possible choice for the Democrats as their VP (out of the presidential candidates) is Richardson. I also think that, issue wise, he would be the toughest candidate to beat. I don’t see him getting it though. I think Evan Bayh is the frontrunner for VP. Even though he has drifte to the left recently, he was pretty moderate. If the Ddemocrats pick Bredeson (Governor of Tennessee), we could be in trouble.
June 27th, 2007 at 8:48 pm
I think ewards has a lot riding on these 2nd quater fundraising numbers that are due saturday June 30th what do you think?
June 27th, 2007 at 9:06 pm
I do not think that the Romney people should engage in an arguement about whether Mormonism is christianity, instead they should remain focused on the fact that it doesn’t matter. Sure he has faith in God, and believes in Jesus as a saviour, but if he doesn’t view Christ as divine than he isn’t a christian. He can reiterate his belief in God, but the conservative movement should not be involved in any movement of unifying churches – we should be separate from churches.
June 27th, 2007 at 9:08 pm
Brownback is finished because of his cloture vote.
June 27th, 2007 at 9:10 pm
Probably. He’s campaigning hard for it, and seems to be desperate and trying anything
June 27th, 2007 at 9:18 pm
does tommy oliver, think is safe money wise to keep going or will he have to call the TV stations in to say GOOD BYE? Do you thi nk the anne culter thing will hurt him or help edwards ?
June 27th, 2007 at 10:09 pm
I think the Ann Coulter thing will hurt both of them. Ann Coulter does herself, or the GOP, no favors by offending anybody she feels like, and Edwards looked bad having his wife call in and go after her instead of herself.
June 27th, 2007 at 10:36 pm
Tommy, hey, did not you know we are approaching WWIV (four) already, according to Newt?
By all means, let this pastor sewt poisons. The more candidates he accusses of being a false disciple, the less likely people will accept his accusations on Mitt. So, dear pastor (what’s his name anyway), please do say about how devilish Rudy and McCain are, and please discourse beautiifully on how much of Satan workshippers all of those Democratic Candidates are!
June 27th, 2007 at 10:42 pm
John (#24), I agree with you that we should keep theology out of the race. It is fine to discuss the common values (of which there are many, many and many!), and I think Mitt has done a lot of that. Anyway, because of that, I won’t comment on your statement about how LDS perceive the divineness of Christ, other than that it is all way up there, waaaaay up!
June 27th, 2007 at 11:06 pm
According to Ron Paul, we’ve already been conquered!
June 27th, 2007 at 11:09 pm
I actually saw this guy on Bill O’Rielly after he said those things about Mitt, and he discussed how he started preaching when he “was in prison.” He really has the morale authority to question anyone.:)
June 27th, 2007 at 11:14 pm
SGS, I will take the opportunity. I dont think that its Mitts job to clarify the LDS faith, so just for a second, Ill do it. He and other LDS people like me believe in Jesus Christ and his divinity. He was the Son of God, our personal Savior, the Redeemer, and is what the New Testament teaches he was. Yes there are differences in theology like the Trinity, Book of Mormon, modern day prophets, and so on that we may not agree on. If people dont agree with aspects of his faith, thats their business. But I know that he is as much a believer in Christ as Huckabee or anyone else.
We should focus more on same beliefs (in our faiths, and with our party), like shared values, smaller government, etc. Doctrinal differences exist, but we have more in common than we would disagree on.
June 28th, 2007 at 12:09 am
Husky, Do you believe that Jesus is equal with God, becasue if not I don’t know if I would consider you Christian. I think we should focus on differences and similarities so that we could choose the best. We should unite on our shared values and debate our differences – these are not mutually exclusive.
BTW, I find Mormons to be very nice people, and Romney being one is a plus even if the religion doesn’t fit into my technical description of Christianity.
June 28th, 2007 at 8:42 am
John, because you asked the question nicely, and you did want to know, so here is my answer. Yes, Jesus is equal in power, ability, understanding, knowledge, and everything to God, our Heavenly Father.
June 28th, 2007 at 10:05 am
Well, now I guess we can take Thompson off the list of candidates pulling this guys strings to knock Romney out of the way
That’s what he’d like you to think, Tommy Oliver. No one’s more dubious than Fred. Unless its Mitt. I can’t decide whether Fred got this guy to attack Mitt and then had him attack Fred too, for cover, or whether Mitt had this guy attack Fred but had him attack Mitt first, for cover.
June 28th, 2007 at 10:06 am
“Many so-called Christian politicians are unprincipled villains.”
LLOL (literally laughed out loud). Quote of the week!
June 28th, 2007 at 10:07 am
Er, I meant to say that non one was more “devious” than Fred. I don’t think Fred is dubious. Please don’t hurt me, dark master!
June 28th, 2007 at 10:10 am
The Church of Christ that Thompson belongs to is quite distinct from the wacky, cultish Church of Christ that he is thinking of.
Nope, its the same one. Though how “wacky and cultish” it is I don’t know.
I’m not inclined to take this ex-con preacher’s word for it. Anyway, I think Fred is only a nominal member.
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